What do escorts do after retiring?

[jjkrkwood]

a big juicy bubble butt along with that hard cock doesn't hurt either

 

Well, like I said, you have Options !

 

And perhaps one day, i'll get to BLOW that bubble ?

[+ freecahill1965]

This is really not true at all... sorry to contradict you but maybe it will come as good news to you if you can believe me. Escorting doesn’t last forever because escorts burn out. There’s no such thing as “past your prime” in escorting (unless it’s because you’re jaded/traumatised/burnt-out). Lots of clients PREFER an escort closer to their own age. LOTS. And the escorts who I know in their 40’s-50’s who market themselves well DO well...

 

Reinventing yourself as your appearance and maturity level advances isn’t “stalling the process”. It makes sense to tailor your marketing to the clients you want to attract, and continuously shaping and adjusting marketing is something that any escort interested in sustainability and longevity should always be doing.

 

If you would feel weird being an escort in your 40’s I think that’s due to your own ideas and prejudices about escorting... I know tons of successful escorts in their 40’s and there is NOTHING weird about it. Most of them don’t even have to advertise anymore because they have 10-15 faithful regular clients who take them on trips and spend weekends and provide more than enough for a full-time income without them needing to add any new clients.

 

When you get older the game does change- from what I hear your clients get more loyal and spend more at once. Less one hour BFEs, more weekend trips and overnights. Less one-offs and more regulars. Honestly from what older escorts tell me it sounds dreamy. Can’t wait...

 

Meanwhile my gender transition has set me back an entire ten years in appearance and has me wondering if I should be advertising as 18 instead of 28...

Though some better word choices could have been used in describing his feelings, I do not think that [uSER=12155]@Dominiking[/uSER] is saying that 30 or 40 plus year olds can't be sucessful. It is just not successful for all. Though I have never hired a provider over 30, I can tell you there is one provider over 40 who I would hire in a minute if the opportunity arises. I will not mention any names @GregM opps. Dominiking is just saying in general that providers need a plan B. Though escorting can carry SOME into their later years in general many escorts do not have continued success in their later years or stop escorting for whatever reason. Thus, the need for plan B. I have no longitudinal data. I do know that RM shows 274 pages of Rentmen. I do know that ~71% of them are under 30. ~23% are 30-39 and ~6% are over 40. This shows that there is a market for some older providers but as Dominiking stated the other 71% need a plan B. As the probabilities would have it, Dominiking plan B is probably a good idea for a large number of providers.

Edited February 4, 2018 by freecahill1965

[+ Avalon]

In know escorts pay taxes but do they pay into Social Security?

[+ sniper]

In know escorts pay taxes but do they pay into Social Security?

Usually if they are paying taxes they are paying into SS as well. There might be some ways to avoid it but I am not an accountant.

[+ Avalon]

Usually if they are paying taxes they are paying into SS as well. There might be some ways to avoid it but I am not an accountant.

 

So there will be a retirement although there will be a gap between when they stop escorting and when they can collect SS benefits.

[Kevin Slater]

In know escorts pay taxes but do they pay into Social Security?

 

Any sole proprietor pays self-employment tax, which means social security and medicare.

 

Kevin Slater

[+ Avalon]

Any sole proprietor pays self-employment tax, which means social security and medicare.

 

Kevin Slater

 

Good!

[jjkrkwood]

Any sole proprietor pays self-employment tax, which means social security and medicare.

 

Kevin Slater

 

 

Dont worry, Trump will gut those too !

[FTM Zachary Prince]

I do know that RM shows 274 pages of Rentmen. I do know that ~71% of them are under 30. ~23% are 30-39 and ~6% are over 40.

 

Seeing who is advertising is not a good way to judge who is working successfully. As I’ve mentioned, most older escorts no longer need to advertise. Their regular clients and regular income are SET. That’s living the dream, not struggling. Escorts often stop escorting at an older age due to burnout, social stigma, and a host of other reasons that have nothing to do with a lack of demand for older escorts.

 

No ones arguing against plan B, C, or D at any age. But any young escort who believes that their value relies on their youth is choosing to give weight to a toxic and ultimately false idea that will undoubtedly turn into a self-fulfilling prophesy for their own business. If you refuse to provide your clients with some value besides your youth, smooth face & hard body then I guess they really won’t have any reason to keep hiring you once you get older. If you’re offering something valuable that goes beyond that then the demand for your services will never stop. That’s just the way it is, and anyone who chooses to believe otherwise is deluding themselves. Feel free tho if you want... it’s your life and your career!

 

And any client who says otherwise is merely projecting his own biases about the escorts he hires onto the entire market. I’m sure that most (not all) of the guys who frequent RentMen and this board might be interested in younger guys. The whole scene where older escorts who don’t have to advertise are connecting with long-time regulars who are extremely loyal to them is pretty far removed from RM, review boards & discussion forums, as you may or may not be able to imagine.

Edited February 4, 2018 by FTM Zachary Prince

[Bargara Leatherboy]

I am 57 and rarely look at a provider under 30 years old.

 

My fav go to guys are in their 40's and they are amazing .

 

A 70 yr old who knows how to work a bod would still get hired by me

[+ tassojunior]

I have known hundreds and it is very sad. Looks go quick because of lack of healthy lifestyle and no insurance, dental etc. Lack of job skills, which gets them into the work to begin with, means menial work after. Sad but sorry that's my long-term observation.

[+ freecahill1965]

Seeing who is advertising is not a good way to judge who is working successfully. As I’ve mentioned, most older escorts no longer need to advertise. Their regular clients and regular income are SET. That’s living the dream, not struggling. Escorts often stop escorting at an older age due to burnout, social stigma, and a host of other reasons that have nothing to do with a lack of demand for older escorts.

 

No ones arguing against plan B, C, or D at any age. But any young escort who believes that their value relies on their youth is choosing to give weight to a toxic and ultimately false idea that will undoubtedly turn into a self-fulfilling prophesy for their own business. If you refuse to provide your clients with some value besides your youth, smooth face & hard body then I guess they really won’t have any reason to keep hiring you once you get older. If you’re offering something valuable that goes beyond that then the demand for your services will never stop. That’s just the way it is, and anyone who chooses to believe otherwise is deluding themselves. Feel free tho if you want... it’s your life and your career!

 

And any client who says otherwise is merely projecting his own biases about the escorts he hires onto the entire market. I’m sure that most (not all) of the guys who frequent RentMen and this board might be interested in younger guys. The whole scene where older escorts who don’t have to advertise are connecting with long-time regulars who are extremely loyal to them is pretty far removed from RM, review boards & discussion forums, as you may or may not be able to imagine.

I do not disagree with the logic of your words. BUT I disagree with your interpretation of Dominiking's words and intent of his post.

[FTM Zachary Prince]

I do not disagree with the logic of your words. BUT I disagree with your interpretation of Dominiking's words and intent of his post.

 

Don’t know him personally and thus have made zero comments about the intent of his post.

 

As for “interpretation of his words” I guess we all have to interpret what anyone is saying and I really don’t think I misinterpreted. His sentiments are pretty clear about becoming less desirable as age advances. That’s simply not true, and I’m debating that very clear point.

 

Again no comment about his intentions or why he thinks this. Simply not my place to speculate.

 

Hopefully Dominiking doesn’t feel like I’m attacking him personally. A lot of escorts share this incorrect idea... I hear it from a lot of mouths and it directly contradicts all the real-world evidence I’ve seen from older providers. I’ve been researching the market from the inside for over five years.

Edited February 4, 2018 by FTM Zachary Prince

[Kevin Slater]

I’ve been researching the market from the inside for over five years.

 

Among other tings.

 

Kevin Slater

[Kevin Slater]

I have known hundreds and it is very sad. Looks go quick because of lack of healthy lifestyle and no insurance, dental etc. Lack of job skills, which gets them into the work to begin with, means menial work after. Sad but sorry that's my long-term observation.

 

Wow. Wrong on every point you make.

 

Kevin Slater

[+ freecahill1965]

Don’t know him personally and thus have made zero comments about the intent of his post.

 

As for “interpretation of his words” I guess we all have to interpret what anyone is saying and I really don’t think I misinterpreted. His sentiments are pretty clear about becoming less desirable as age advances. That’s simply not true, and I’m debating that very clear point.

 

Again no comment about his intentions or why he thinks this. Simply not my place to speculate.

 

Hopefully Dominiking doesn’t feel like I’m attacking him personally. A lot of escorts share this incorrect idea... I hear it from a lot of mouths and it directly contradicts all the real-world evidence I’ve seen from older providers. I’ve been researching the market from the inside for over five years.

Again, I respect you opinion, but I will have to agree to disagree on your interpretation. Great thing about the forum is we all can have our own opinions.

[+ freecahill1965]

I have known hundreds and it is very sad. Looks go quick because of lack of healthy lifestyle and no insurance, dental etc. Lack of job skills, which gets them into the work to begin with, means menial work after. Sad but sorry that's my long-term observation.

Wow. Wrong on every point you make.

 

Kevin Slater

 

I have to agree with Kevin. I am not sure that one can generlize such horrific circumstance. Again, going by the RM data which by others words is not a total indicator, there are some people who escort sucessfully for decades and make a sucessful living. What you describe is true for many who do not even escort. I would venture to guess their poor descisions during their escort years brought them to their circumstance not their escorting.

[+ tassojunior]

In any week I'm sure there are more photos of escorts in police mug shots than on Rentmen.

[MikeBiDude]

I have known hundreds and it is very sad. Looks go quick because of lack of healthy lifestyle and no insurance, dental etc. Lack of job skills, which gets them into the work to begin with, means menial work after. Sad but sorry that's my long-term observation.

So wrong minded and not even factual

[MikeBiDude]

In any week I'm sure there are more photos of escorts in police mug shots than on Rentmen.

Love me my negative newbies

[+ freecahill1965]

In any week I'm sure there are more photos of escorts in police mug shots than on Rentmen.

Wow! This is your opinion I suppose. I can clearly interpret this as a negative sterotype of yours regarding escorts. Unless you have data to support such a statement, it is very unfair to say even if was true. I will even go as far as to say it is mean spirited. I am not an escort and I am taking back by such unkindess. The forum is about sharing. It is not about making unqualified statements that maybe hurtful or unkind to others.

Edited February 4, 2018 by freecahill1965

[+ freecahill1965]

In any week I'm sure there are more photos of escorts in police mug shots than on Rentmen.

After reviewing the Bureau of Justice Statistics I can say your are WRONG. From the latest data posted, there were 251,521 arrests per week reported. Of those arrests only 914 are classified as arrested related to prositiution and commercialised vice. There are well over 2000 escorts on RM. You are not even close on your unfactual statement in being right. By the way, there are about 11,207,000 arrests a year in the US only 0.4% of those arrests are related to prositiution and commercialised vice. Just saying.

Edited February 4, 2018 by freecahill1965

[+ tassojunior]

After reviewing the Bureau of Justice Statistics I can say your are WRONG. From the latest data posted, there were 251,521 arrests per week reported. Of those arrests only 914 are classified as arrested related to prositiution and commercialised vice. There are well over 2000 escorts on RM. You are not even close on your unfactual statement in being right. By the way, there are about 11,207,000 arrests a year in the US only 0.4% of those arrests are related to prositiution and commercialised vice. Just saying.

 

No one said arrested for prostitution . No, our dearest and best tend more toward arrests for murder, rape, beating up spouses/children/girlfriends/boyfriends. It does seem to be a more frequent occurrence with the gay-for-pay guys than gay escorts.

 

And maybe gay escorts use their connections better to move up in life. That would make sense. But at least the GFP's rarely do and end up back in poor conditions they came from, just older and less pretty.

[MikeBiDude]

No one said arrested for prostitution . No, our dearest and best tend more toward arrests for murder, rape, beating up spouses/children/girlfriends/boyfriends. It does seem to be a more frequent occurrence with the gay-for-pay guys than gay escorts.

 

And maybe gay escorts use their connections better to move up in life. That would make sense. But at least the GFP's rarely do and end up back in poor conditions they came from, just older and less pretty.

Cite your sources...?

[+ tassojunior]

Cite your sources...?

If someone hasn't been under a rock the past few years they've read in gay publications of so many of the top guys being charged with murder. Google it yourself. I think there are gay sites that collect it and plenty of gay sites regularly have the stories