jocks 2 go

[+ José Soplanucas]

I learned that my last discovery pays 10% of his earnings to that website. I guess if he is doing it many others also are.

 

Can someone explain to me why would you have a pimp company in Internet Age?

[jjkrkwood]

Insecurity ?

[+ José Soplanucas]

Insecurity ?

?

Do you mean lack of confidence on the part of the advertiser?

[jjkrkwood]

No, on the part of the escort, thinking he cant succeed on his own, and needs a promoter to sell him.

[+ José Soplanucas]

No, on the part of the escort, thinking he cant succeed on his own, and needs a promoter to sell him.

 

That is exactly what I meant, the escort is the advertiser. Yeah, I cannot figure it up anything else. They are pimping these boys out of their ignorance, without receiving any service at all.

[FTM Zachary Prince]

It's also laziness sometimes or lack of time or ability to perform administrative functions. Some people just don't excel at the business end of things and find paying out a monthly percentage to be worth removing the portion of the job that they find to be a hassle.

[jjkrkwood]

It's also laziness sometimes or lack of time or ability to perform administrative functions. Some people just don't excel at the business end of things and find paying out a monthly percentage to be worth removing the portion of the job that they find to be a hassle.

 

If you are a good income earner, you can probably hire a personal assistant for less than 10% of your income, and be in control of yourself ?

[+ José Soplanucas]

It's also laziness sometimes or lack of time or ability to perform administrative functions. Some people just don't excel at the business end of things and find paying out a monthly percentage to be worth removing the portion of the job that they find to be a hassle.

 

What do you mean? The website provides them with administrative support? Do they do their taxes, for instance?

[ChristianCronin]

I don't know why anyone pays Jock2Go 10%. I've had clients from there and have paid the website nothing.

[+ José Soplanucas]

I don't know why anyone pays Jock2Go 10%. I've had clients from there and have paid the website nothing.

 

I do not fully understand. I tried to get more information from him, like whether or not he had signed a contract (he said he filled a form online), but he seemed to be very uncomfortable discussing the topic and I did not insist much.

[rvwnsd]

It sounds like he is paying them a commission instead of a flat rate for an ad.

[FTM Zachary Prince]

If you are a good income earner, you can probably hire a personal assistant for less than 10% of your income, and be in control of yourself ?

 

Most personal assistants charge 10% or even more like 20-30%. As a client you might not realise this, but administrative work like placing ads, communicating with clients, and self-promotion is often MORE THAN HALF of the labor for an escort. Meeting clients in real life comprises a relatively small percentage of the time we have to invest into our business in order to make money. I for example usually spend at least 2x the amount of time on admin as I do meeting clients. Sometimes even 4x the amount of time. For example in an average 50 hour work week for me, only 10 hours might be billable client meetings and 10 hours might be travel, clean up, getting ready for meetings etc. Easily 30 hours of my 50 hour work week can be marketing, advertising, communicating with clients, and brand promotion. When you think about it like that, 10% is an amazing deal for good promotion. For shitty promotion or non-existent promotion it's still a rip-off of course.

 

What do you mean? The website provides them with administrative support? Do they do their taxes, for instance?

 

I apologise, I should have clarified that I know nothing specific about the website in question. Usually when an escort pays a percentage of his income to a company it's because the company is handling and paying for the up-front costs of his advertising. Some people are too lazy to learn how to advertise or might not even have a bank account to place ads with, so this can frequently be an appealing offer, especially for a newbie.

 

Most escorts, like most freelancers in general, hire an accountant or tax preparer to do our taxes if we don't do them ourselves. A promotional company wouldn't have anything to do with that.

[FTM Zachary Prince]

If you are a good income earner, you can probably hire a personal assistant for less than 10% of your income, and be in control of yourself ?

 

Yes, if you're BUSINESS MINDED, you can probably find someone to do the work required for less than 10% of your income, but they probably won't be a professional at escort marketing. Which means you have to train them and micro-manage them. Which requires good management skills. Someone with good business and management skills is unlikely to be paying a commission to a promotional company in the first place.

 

Some people are talented at meeting with clients and extremely untalented at running a business. These people often fail as independent escorts unless they are ready to learn the ropes. But an agency or promotional company can do the administrative labor for them for a fee, allowing them to perform only the portion of the job at which they are talented.

 

I agree with your sentiments in that I enjoy being an independent professional and controlling my business nowadays. But when I was 20 years old and just wanted to have sex for money, with no desire to run my own business or learn how to advertise myself, the agency route was appealing to me so that's why I can relate.

[+ José Soplanucas]

Most personal assistants charge 10% or even more like 20-30%. As a client you might not realise this, but administrative work like placing ads, communicating with clients, and self-promotion is often MORE THAN HALF of the labor for an escort. Meeting clients in real life comprises a relatively small percentage of the time we have to invest into our business in order to make money. I for example usually spend at least 2x the amount of time on admin as I do meeting clients. Sometimes even 4x the amount of time. For example in an average 50 hour work week for me, only 10 hours might be billable client meetings and 10 hours might be travel, clean up, getting ready for meetings etc. Easily 30 hours of my 50 hour work week can be marketing, advertising, communicating with clients, and brand promotion. When you think about it like that, 10% is an amazing deal for good promotion. For shitty promotion or non-existent promotion it's still a rip-off of course.

 

 

 

I apologise, I should have clarified that I know nothing specific about the website in question. Usually when an escort pays a percentage of his income to a company it's because the company is handling and paying for the up-front costs of his advertising. Some people are too lazy to learn how to advertise or might not even have a bank account to place ads with, so this can frequently be an appealing offer, especially for a newbie.

 

Most escorts, like most freelancers in general, hire an accountant or tax preparer to do our taxes if we don't do them ourselves. A promotional company wouldn't have anything to do with that.

 

Still the question remains. What advertising services? All they do is posting your profile in their website, and then take 10% of your income. I am sure it is cheaper to pay for an ad in RM and obtain a much better advertising service. In the specific case of Jonah, I cannot believe someone can go through 4 years of military service without having a banking account and enough self sustaining admin skills.

 

I am sure there are as many explanations as people involved, so I am not proposing any generalization. In his specific case I am clinging for @jjkrkwood 's first suggestion: lack of confidence plus lack of education on how the industry works.

[FTM Zachary Prince]

Still the question remains. What advertising services? All they do is posting your profile in their website, and then take 10% of your income. I am sure it is cheaper to pay for an ad in RM and obtain a much better advertising service. In the specific case of Jonah, I cannot believe someone can go through 4 years of military service without having a banking account and enough self sustaining admin skills.

 

I am sure there are as many explanations as people involved, so I am not proposing any generalization. In his specific case I am clinging for @jjkrkwood 's first suggestion: lack of confidence plus lack of education on how the industry works.

 

Well to be honest if ALL THEYRE DOING is posting an ad for him then HOW DO THEY KNOW how much money he's making?? Usually a promotional company is involved in setting up the appointment for him as well. If he's handling all the communication on his own then he could cheat them out of their 10% anyway by lying about how many clients he's met. Without knowing the whole story, we can only speculate as to the exact nature of their arrangement.

 

Military service doesn't necessarily lead to good administrative or financial skills. A lot of the guys I know who were in the military blew every penny they made on drinking as soon as they got the chance and came out of the military with nothing to show for it. You know unemployment rates among former servicemembers are high, right?

 

You would be AMAZED how many people would rather give away a percentage of their income then shell out money up front for an ad, or spend the time to learn about how to advertise. Learning to advertise is unpaid labor. Shelling out investment money for an ad is often money that someone DOESN'T HAVE or doesn't feel like they can spare.

 

Yes it's lack of education for sure. But everyone pays more for assistance in areas that they are uneducated about. I could give a list of examples but I'm sure you can also use your imagination.

 

Not everyone is a "self-starter" who is a good escort. But without the help of an agency or an experienced mentor, you NEED to be a self-starter to succeed. Paying someone a percentage to help you get started is just an alternate way for people to enter the industry IMO.

 

Also 10% is just really reasonable and non-exploitative by sex industry standards. Most exploitative companies garner anywhere from 25-50% of an escort's wages. Just saying.

[nate_sf]

Still the question remains. What advertising services? All they do is posting your profile in their website, and then take 10% of your income. I am sure it is cheaper to pay for an ad in RM and obtain a much better advertising service. In the specific case of Jonah, I cannot believe someone can go through 4 years of military service without having a banking account and enough self sustaining admin skills.

 

If it's the escort website jock2go.com that we're talking about, I don't understand where this reference to a percentage is coming from. The jock2go pricing structure is similar to rentmen and all the others, with a selection of pricing tier and add-ons:

 

http://www.natebeck.us/ScreenShot2017-10-29_2.44.36PM.jpg

 

http://www.natebeck.us/ScreenShot2017-10-29_2.43.42PM.jpg

 

Maybe the guy meant that he was spending approximately 10% of his earnings on the advertising for the website? Unless there is some other arrangement that is not presented in the advertiser options, but I'm thinking this is a misunderstanding.

[+ José Soplanucas]

If it's the escort website jock2go.com that we're talking about, I don't understand where this reference to a percentage is coming from. The jock2go pricing structure is similar to rentmen and all the others, with a selection of pricing tier and add-ons:

 

Maybe the guy meant that he was spending approximately 10% of his earnings on the advertising for the website? Unless there is some other arrangement that is not presented in the advertiser options, but I'm thinking this is a misunderstanding.

 

Now I am really confused. Thanks for your input, man!

[Kevin Slater]

Maybe the guy meant that he was spending approximately 10% of his earnings on the advertising for the website?

 

That was my thought.

 

Kevin Slater

[Rangar]

I learned that my last discovery pays 10% of his earnings to that website.

latbear I am curious to know in what context did you learn this or he tell you? Possibly he was hoping you would feel sorry for him and give him more than agreed or nice big tip. Also latbear's your subsequent comment

I tried to get more information from him, like whether or not he had signed a contract (he said he filled a form online), but he seemed to be very uncomfortable discussing the topic and I did not insist much.

makes what the escort said a little suspect

There is no way he he could be paying JB 10% of his earnings (unless he mispoke like others said) because how would JB know what he is making. Unless JB works on the "Honor System" which I doubt, they would need to be making all his bookings and collecting all the money to have an accurate accounting of what the escort makes.

[Scorpio]

Based on your recent hire, I’m fairly certain you’re confusing Jocks2go with:

 

https://www.jockboyescorts.com/jockboys

[+ José Soplanucas]

latbear I am curious to know in what context did you learn this or he tell you? Possibly he was hoping you would feel sorry for him and give him more than agreed or nice big tip. Also latbear's your subsequent comment

makes what the escort said a little suspect

There is no way he he could be paying JB 10% of his earnings (unless he mispoke like others said) because how would JB know what he is making. Unless JB works on the "Honor System" which I doubt, they would need to be making all his bookings and collecting all the money to have an accurate accounting of what the escort makes.

 

He told me about the 10%. I know, I agree with your concerns, that is why I brought the issue here to have other people's input. I had never heard before, or I did not remember at all that website.