Should 2 escorts who have seen the same clients acknowledge one another?

[Mocha]

revision: previous title needed some fixin's...

 

Over the years I've come across some escorts who I learned (usually from the client) were seen either before or after I met them. A couple times, I've reached out to them (usually with a phone call versus an email or text which can seem snoopy) or vice versa and in most cases shared some great conversation and even related to each other in different ways and maintained an "acquitenceship". No sharing clients or discussing specific clients, but just letting each other know we exist and have someone in the biz to have communion with.

 

There's a particular escort out there, who's similar in attributes in some ways to me, but we're different in age. We have traveled some of the same areas also. I learned couple years ago, he started seeing one of my regular clients I've been meeting with for the last 4 years. I've reach out to him in a non-obvious way, just to say hi and introduce myself. My email to him on rentmen went unreturned. Whenever I chat with my client (we had a sort of friendship thing going), he tells me something about him. He's told me A LOT about him. And I'm sure he's told him a lot about me. I suggested to my client we all met sometime for our annual outdoor activities/photo shoot, but he suggested it would not be a good idea (even though we've talked about having 3 ways for years????) And now...him and this other escort are in some kind of open relationship together.

 

Then the other week, I also seen another prospective client of mine left him a review the day after we had scheduled an appointment. I wasn't snooping, I had just looked back at the clients rentmen profile for some reason and seen he left a review for this guy...and ironically it was the same day I had just got done talking to my former client and he mentioned that the escort was visiting the same area I was visiting.

 

I know this guy likely knows I was in the same area, and Im pretty sure he knows who I am. It seems odd that this guy seems to be avoiding having any sort of acknowledgment to me whatsoever. I'm not saying I contact or make friends with every escort I learn who meets one of my clients. On the contrary, I rarely do. However...would not acknowledging each other atleast be an effort of good faith, considering we have mutual friends with this client?

 

By not doing so, I wonder if the escort holds an indifference towards me. Yeah it shouldn't matter if he don't like me. And Yes, it's the client who makes the ultimate decision. But, the area where this guy is from and my client lives is a known area where darker ethnicities have very limited interaction or do not fellowship much with each other.

 

Every other business, singers and songwriters and football players colaborate and do things together, whereas it seems there's this unspoken rule to not fellowship with other escorts.

[dcguy20]

Mocha, I'm going to start by saying you know that I like you, and have always enjoyed seeing you.

 

There's a difference between a competitor taking your clients, and the clients deciding to hire someone else. How was that particular escort to know that they were clients of yours until after the fact? It is a free market, and we all have the ability to chose who we'd like to see.

 

I'm sorry these decisions have affected your bottom line, but instead of worrying about who your one time clients are seeing, focus on the ones who decide to hire you.

 

In these instances, there is no reason for your competitor to acknowledge you. Leave it be.

 

Yes, it sucks that one of your clients cancelled his appointment with you, but unfortunately that's the way things go. I have seen certain guys consistently, and every once is a while, I decide to try someone else. There is no rhyme or reason, it's just how I was feeling at that time.

 

Sometimes there have been 2 new guys, plus a regular in town at the same time that I'd like to see. As I can't see all 3, I have a decision to make. Sometimes I'm overwhelmed by the choice, that I don't end up seeing any of them.

[Mocha]

There's a difference between a competitor taking your clients, and the clients deciding to hire someone else. How was that particular escort to know that they were clients of yours until after the fact? It is a free market, and we all have the ability to chose who we'd like to see.

 

I'm sorry these decisions have affected your bottom line, but instead of worrying about who your one time clients are seeing, focus on the ones who decide to hire you.

 

That's a good point you made. Obviously the client makes the first call.

 

However, my point is why the person doesn't mutually acknowledge. I did. Not saying I'm owed it or he owes it, but why not? Is it too intimidating? Or is it like, "hey I took your client, so what?" That part kinda makes me feel a certain way.

 

If I was an escort (which I am) and had a client want to get us together or whatever, I would say go for it...id reach out. I did that for an escort years ago when a client wanted to have a 3rd. But the escort didn't want to work with ME. Or...if an escort reached out to me and complimented me, I'd respond back. It's the whole not responding thing...and of course maybe, the message didn't go through or he's just not wanting to discuss it. Or I could have just straight up call, but since I've already reached out, it would make me feel pushy.

 

I guess I just hear some escorts out here working together, doing 3 sums with clients, communicating, advising and doing things together, but then we as ethnic escorts just aren't sticking together.

 

By the way, it hasn't necessarily affected my bottom line. The client Ive known for years, I was understanding about it when he told me early last year...but since then I've moved and also met other very appreciated/reliable clients in other areas (including a couple in D.C.). So it's a disappointing loss, but I've gained others along the way.

 

On the other hand, there's a guy who we used to share clients with occasionally, and we talk for an hour and share all sorts of tips and advice. But we never met in person, but we atleast acknowledged each other whenever we happened upon the same city.

[+ Avalon]

Do clients often tell the escort they're with about the other escorts they see?

[+ Tarte Gogo]

Do clients often tell the escort they're with about the other escorts they see?

I guess not very often, but you can find out from their reviews.

[big-n-tall]

Do clients often tell the escort they're with about the other escorts they see?

 

Depends on the escort, the client, and the relationship they have. I know there are a couple of the guys I've seen who like to know who I have gotten dirty with, be it another escort, fwb, or other (whether it was a boy or girl). LOL! Well, at least, they want to know what I have done with the other person, if not who exactly with. Just as there are some clients who like to hear or know to a degree about how many guys the escort has seen and what they did. It's a fetish I suppose.

 

Of course, there are escorts and clients who don't want to know or care either way.

[+ oldNbusted]

Depends on the escort, the client, and the relationship they have.

 

If I like how a guy treats me, I sometimes will mention my less than successful meetings to let them know I'm not just being nice, they are actually talented.

 

Just as there are some clients who like to hear or know to a degree about how many guys the escort has seen and what they did.

 

You might very well think that, but I couldn't possibly comment.

[big-n-tall]

You might very well think that, but I couldn't possibly comment.

 

 

But you just did. Lol!

[Mocha]

By the way I guess the word I should use is "share" versus take, based on the initial contact. Take would imply force, when actually it's a chosen choice.

 

Another short story example I have: there was an escort in another town I lived in. I would see his ad up often, and we had similar looks. Well one day, I see him at the barbershop! He literally walked right in front of me. Later on that day, I texted him, introduced myself (and made sure it was him). He responded. But then when I mentioned we were in the barbershop at the same time earlier that day, he didn't say anything back.

 

I'm like, the shade. That's why years ago, one 12" Black escort told me, "We as a people need to stop acting distant toward one another in this business". Referring to the "shade" guys throw towards one another in the business (which he thought I was doing but I just didnt catch his signal).

 

Maybe the guy was flustered, and despite discreetly mentioning him...guess the idea of seeing another escort out in public was too much for him.

[NuSingle]

Is camaraderie amongst escorts a part of the business? I honestly have no idea. Perhaps this guy is just all business...simple as that.

[LADoug1]

Another negative thread.

[jjkrkwood]

Aren't we in a "free market society", with the ultimate decision being the client's on who HE wants to hire ? It's fucking BUSINESS, and people need to EARN money. Comraderie here is bullshit.

 

Geez Louise, get over yourself already !

[KennF]

Not saying I'm owed it or he owes it, but why not?

 

Whether you say it or not, you're feeling it, or you wouldn't have posted the thought.

 

So, you are possessive of your client base. That can be a good thing. But like all businesses, you either need to find new ways to attract clients or lose them to natural attrition.

 

I sincerely doubt he is monitoring you and all potential clients to try and target yours and steal them away from you. Instead, the clients are still looking for something, and that something is being found in the other provider.

 

Your challenge, figure out what is that something, and adjust for it.

[Rod Hagen]

A little "healthy" competition :-)

 

[+ VictorPowers]

Just because you enjoy Pepsi doesn't mean you can't enjoy Coke.

 

Your client made a choice to hire someone else and in the process end your professional relationship with him. It is nothing out of the ordinary. As for him not mentioning you, I'd imagine he's being discreet and professional by not mentioning names.

[Mocha]

Is camaraderie amongst escorts a part of the business? I honestly have no idea. Perhaps this guy is just all business...simple as that.

 

Not necessarily, but it can be. I've had camaderie with different guys overtime. But I know not everyone does.

 

Just because you enjoy Pepsi doesn't mean you can't enjoy Coke.

 

Your client made a choice to hire someone else and in the process end your professional relationship with him. It is nothing out of the ordinary. As for him not mentioning you, I'd imagine he's being discreet and professional by not mentioning names.

 

Im pretty sure he knows who I am, as the client has told me All about him. I'm pretty sure my client has told him about me. It's like how guys on here talk about people they've hired. That would be like you and I knowing we have the same client, and either one of us reach out and then ignores the other. But that's what I'm saying, the fact he knows and I've reached out to him, and the escort doesn't acknowledge....seems a bit dubious.

[KennF]

I'm probably going to stop communicating with the particular client because though he did see me one other time after he met this guy, subsequent times of contact seems to be all about discussing how wonderful this guy is.

 

Are we in high school again?

If a client hired you to sit on the couch and listen to him blather on about his job... that would be okay, wouldn't it?

If a client hired you to sit on the bed while he clipped his toe nails... that would be an okay job, wouldn't it?

If a client hired you to listen to how his wife wouldn't satisfy him... that would be okay wouldn't it?

 

So, this client hires you to try and tell you how wonderful another escort makes him feel. Why isn't that okay?

 

You need to get out of your own head or thinking you have a boyfriend. You're getting jealous because a client is doing business with another provider.

 

Take this to a different profession... You're a hair stylist. You've got a regular client who one day goes to a new stylist. They come back to you and tell you how wonderful the style was. You may be pissed that you missed one session with your client, but what you SHOULD be doing is listening and learning what this client wanted.

 

Figure out how what the customer wants and see if you can adjust your styling to satisfy the client more and retain more of their business.

 

This ISN'T personal, it IS business.

[Deadlift1]

Maybe the competition knows not to whine about themselves with a client.

[Mocha]

Maybe the competition knows not to whine about themselves with a client.

 

Well the competition isn't coming on here addressing me so I'm not phased by some garbage you have to say. You're not even competition for me so you don't even have a case to address me.

 

One thing hasn't been mentioned: it's possible The client is saying good things about me also. I wouldn't know. If the other guy knows, maybe there could be an intimation factor. I sent my client a couple photos of me in the grand canyon last week, and he said I'm really looking good. So trust and believe me...there's no bad blood. It's just The other guy was more accessible because he happened to live closer.

 

At least I can face my concerns and voice it. If being real and open about something many escorts likely deal with but don't discuss here is whining, then you're weak and need to keep it moving. The fact that you have to say such demeaning things when you've not been addressed says more about you than me.

[+ Robster]

I guess I shouldn't be addressing you either, but then again, this is an open forum, so what the hell.

 

The intimidation comments crack me up. This guy is successfully taking your clients, so I think it's safe to assume he's not intimidated by you.

 

Rob

[Mocha]

I guess I shouldn't be addressing you either, but then again, this is an open forum, so what the hell.

 

The intimidation comments crack me up. This guy is successfully taking your clients, so I think it's safe to assume he's not intimidated by you.

 

Rob

 

It's my mistake that I used the word "taking", but I had corrected that and said "share". He's not taking my clients. There was 2 examples of us meeting similar clients....it was likely a coincidence since we traveled the same paths. To me, if a person throws shade and knows we have met the same clients and traveled some of the same paths, that appears to be some sort of intimidation factor there.

[+ Robster]

No, you used the right word the first time. "Take" does not imply force. And "share" implies that the clients are still seeing you, which they're not.

 

You and your fat boyfriend couldn't even get half the clients I get.

Obviously, some people here can't handle certain topics without being insensitive and childish

I guess you proved your own point.

 

Rob

[Mocha]

No, you used the right word the first time. "Take" does not imply force. And "share" implies that the clients are still seeing you, which they're not.

 

 

 

I guess you proved your own point.

 

Rob

 

Well they aren't seeing you, so what do you care? I was well appreciated and sustained years of friendship with this person and we still keep in contact. You ain't had diddly squat. Not a damn thing. You're a spectator to all this because you don't have it in you to hire nor be hired.

[+ Avalon]

Regardless of the job almost everyone from time-to-time has complaints about their work. Escorts are no different. Everyone needs a place to vent. We shouldn't judge; we can all understand one way or another.

[Deadlift1]

What do you have against me any way? You and your fat boyfriend couldn't even get half the clients I get. So keep it moving. You don't want it with me.

Who is Robster's fat BF?

Seems like Mocha needs to step up his game.