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[+ 7829V]

I'm sure they know about viagra and cialis. There's no excuse.

[Populist Fury]

It sounds very reasonable to me. I always demand hard dick & cum from my escorts, no excuses allowed. I let them know during the negotiation period, and if they can't commit, I simply wish them well and move on. My 2 regulars already know to save themselves for me on the days I have dates with them.

 

Why did you rehire a guy that couldn't get it up on the first date? Some of them could be using drugs, steroids, or have stim dick from too many pre-workout supps. Been there before lol

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[wklucas]

I rehired the first guy because he tried so very hard to please me with every other act of love. He's just 20 and really is an amazing escort, except he hasn't learned to pace himself. The young make foolish mistakes. I always give 2nd chances. I think we all deserve that. But it's time to grow up. (P.S. I don't think he uses drugs.)

 

Well, at the very least when making the date with the same guy before hiring him for the 2nd time, you should have clearly stated your expectations & extracted an agreement from him - in case of no performance, no pay.....but also if you understand that he's still young & still learning how to "pace" himself, I would have let more time pass before making 2nd contact.....let him get more experience under his belt & then still make the same understanding clear - no top play / no pay....or maybe reduced pay but that could be awkward to say beforehand.

[+ othermanc]

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[LaffingBear]

I plan to make this offer to escorts I contact:

 

If, once we agree on what's expected, you are unable to complete these act(s) you will accept 1/2 of your fee for your time.

You might want to pose the question in Ask An Escort section.

 

I understand your frustration. But I cant imagine any escort agreeing to those terms.

 

You're also overlooking the whole "paying for my time only, anything else is voluntary between consenting adults....." aspect of the "contract" (regardless of actual understanding)

[+ ButchAtl]

I have had this same experience a couple of times. Although I haven't hired that many escorts or "porn stars" to be an experienced client, as an older guy I have wondered it it were "me" as well.

I am fit, hwp, and decent looking and most of the time there has not been a problem, so have sort of ruled "me" out. Besides, I am upfront as to the age thing, so that's a known prior to a meeting.

Barring just it being a "chemistry" thing, I have thought it must be the same thing; too many clients too close together and no time for the "recovery"

[MikeyGMin]

I've hired 4 escorts (who advertise as "versatile") not be able to get and maintain an erection hard enough to top me

Not to be snarky, but in my experience "versatile" usually means, "I might be able to top you, but I prefer to bottom." I've almost never heard anyone say they hired a versatile guy and he wasn't able to bottom for them. I'm just sayin.

 

If I were you I would choose an activity that is most important to me. If it is bottoming, then I would hire a pure top. They know what is expected of them.

[Moondance]

I plan to make this offer to escorts I contact:

 

If, once we agree on what's expected, you are unable to complete these act(s) you will accept 1/2 of your fee for your time.

 

It seems fair to me. One shouldn't have to pay full price unless you get the full service you've contracted for.

Why limit this concept to escorts?

 

I'll bet employers across all lines of work would embrace it.

 

You know what sticklers they can be ... expecting a hard day's work day in and day out and all too often getting only a semi-hard day's work.

[+ BenjaminNicholas]

Not to be snarky, but in my experience "versatile" usually means, "I might be able to top you, but I prefer to bottom."

 

What versatile should mean, and what it means to me, is someone who can easily top AND bottom in the same session.

 

Very few guys can do this, but it's hot when they can.

[caliguy]

What versatile should mean, and what it means to me, is someone who can easily top AND bottom in the same session.

 

Very few guys can do this, but it's hot when they can.

I could never do that. Flip fucking is too ala cart for me. I'm sure I'd suffer erection issues myself and that almost never happens.

[MartyB]

Escorts are only human. For regulars where we are both versatile it makes life easier when we get together. I'm also taking Viagra so I'm ready to go either way. Limiting oneself to an escort who is purely a top especially where they book more than one client a day would be a potential problem.

[caliguy]

Oh, we DID discuss at length what was expected and agreed upon. I never thought at that time of suggesting a reduced fee for not delivering. I guess he seemed eager to be with me again I didn't think he need more experience, just more time between clients. A week should have been sufficient for a 20 year old.

Just have a jar full of ED drugs. Let them know that it's there. Most escorts understand it's part of the job. However, someone as young as 20 might need some guidance.

[+ nycman]

The young make foolish mistakes.

 

So do the old....

 

Like hiring an escort TWICE who can't get it up......

 

Just sayin'....grin

[+ Funguy]

I agree with the hard issue . . . It happened to me with an escort only once but he didn't want to bottom either and that cut our time very short. It was too bad because earlier visits were entirely versatile and I was IN LUST for this guy.

 

As far as the cum issue, I am a bit mixed.

While I love when my escort cums, there are times when I see that it's being a bit forced and if he has already gotten me off 2 or 3 times - I just say relax and cuddle.

You would be amazed (at least some of you guys would be) at what may happen when the pressure is off!

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[gallahadesquire]

When we hire, aren't we hiring for the escort's time? Hiring for a particular sexual act would be prostitution.

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[bigvalboy]

- I just say relax and cuddle.

You would be amazed (at least some of you guys would be) at what may happen when the pressure is off!

 

Yes!!

@VictorPowers are you listening.

[Gar1eth]

OK. In the last 2 months I've hired 4 escorts (who advertise as "versatile") not be able to get and maintain an erection hard enough to top me

( one of them twice in a row, a week apart). BTW, All of the guys are in their early 20s.

During this same period I have hired other escorts with no problem in this area so I don't think it's "me."

Various excuses have been offered but the problem is most likely escorts booking too many clients without enough regard for their own need to "recharge."

I plan to make this offer to escorts I contact:

 

If, once we agree on what's expected, you are unable to complete these act(s) you will accept 1/2 of your fee for your time.

 

It seems fair to me. One shouldn't have to pay full price for unless you get the full service you've contracted for.

 

Here's a dumb example but indulge me: If you pay to have your lawn mowed and the guy mows half the lawn, saying he's too tired to do the rest because he's mowed too many lawns this week, and he still wants you to pay the full price for his service.

 

I don't know...you tell me if I'm being unreasonable.

 

No disrespect directed at the many escorts I've been with who DON'T fall into this category. Thanks, Guys!

 

I think it's totally reasonable considering the money factor.

You might want to pose the question in Ask An Escort section.

 

I understand your frustration. But I cant imagine any escort agreeing to those terms.

 

You're also overlooking the whole "paying for my time only, anything else is voluntary between consenting adults....." aspect of the "contract" (regardless of actual understanding)

 

I totally agree that not many escorts are going to be willing to accept performance regulated fees.

 

Not to be snarky, but in my experience "versatile" usually means, "I might be able to top you, but I prefer to bottom." I've almost never heard anyone say they hired a versatile guy and he wasn't able to bottom for them. I'm just sayin.

 

If I were you I would choose an activity that is most important to me. If it is bottoming, then I would hire a pure top. They know what is expected of them.

 

I've had both versatile guys and bottoms guys either have trouble taking me or not really be able to take me. I'm not long-just a bit thicker than average. Unfortunately I'm not thick enough for porn.

 

What versatile should mean, and what it means to me, is someone who can easily top AND bottom in the same session.

 

Very few guys can do this, but it's hot when they can.

 

Have you found in your experience @Benjamin_Nicholas that some guys have trouble topping or cuming after bottoming first?

 

I'm sure they know about viagra and cialis. There's no excuse.

 

I don't know about younger guys. But while they definitely help, they aren't total miracle drugs. Even if I haven't cum recently, I've occasionally taken sildenafil and not a twinge has occurred down in my nether regions.

 

Gman

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[Good Grief]

I received some nice personal emails from some of the escorts I complained about. There were sincere sounding comments about how I had "every right to feel as I did" (sic) and that was followed with praise for me as a good client. OK. I'm satisfied with that. I think I made a point that may make a difference down the road, at least for me in my circle of regulars. Now on to the fun and games!

 

Did the "escorts you complained about" see this thread?

 

Just wondering as you said you've received "nice personal emails from some of the escorts I complained about."

 

You didn't mention any names throughout this thread as far as my aged eyes can see. Suppose they remembered you?

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