Post-first time thoughts/questions

[+ freecahill1965]

It always seems a bit rushed when you jump right into foreplay and sex. My last meeting with an escort was the same way.. it was awesome and he was really hot, but he was out the door in 30 minutes. If you don't like massage, then maybe just sit and chat for 10-15 minutes at the beginning.

 

But really you should have taken more time during the initial texting/email to communicate exactly what you were looking for.

 

I like a massage too but I find taking a shower with my escort to be so thrilling as well. We can talk chat, touch and be thrilled to know that their balls, dick and ass are clean and ready for licking.

[MikeyGMin]

All of them will play you. You just have to be the better player.

Extremely cynical and just not true. I've been doing this for years and can only think of a few guys who have tried to play me. I have also ran into a few guys who were very mechanical, but still weren't trying to play me. The majority of the guys I've met have tried successfully to make it a win-win arrangement.

 

You have the money, so you have the power in this scenario.

It's been said on this board many times, but if you're going to treat the provider of an intimate service in this way, don't be surprised if they treat you like a walking ATM. Having the money enables you to make a consumer decision about whether you hire or not -- it doesn't give you power over them.

[ChicagoGuy]

Extremely cynical and just not true. I've been doing this for years and can only think of a few guys who have tried to play me. I have also ran into a few guys who were very mechanical, but still weren't trying to play me. The majority of the guys I've met have tried successfully to make it a win-win arrangement.

 

 

It's been said on this board many times, but if you're going to treat the provider of an intimate service in this way, don't be surprised if they treat you like a walking ATM. Having the money enables you to make a consumer decision about whether you hire or not -- it doesn't give you power over them.

I reread my post and i regret using the word 'play'. I will just go back though to what it really is. It's roleplay and it can go on that way or in some cases they become a meaningful partnership between the escort and the client where the escort will behave to the client's desire.

 

And with regards to you having the money, control might be a strong word but maybe it's more like it does give you the option to choose who you want to be with and where you want to take it from there.

 

Thanks, @MikeyGMin. You are on point.

[+ BenjaminNicholas]

And with regards to you having the money, control might be a strong word but maybe it's more like it does give you the option to choose who you want to be with and where you want to take it from there

 

And people should never forget that it works both ways.

 

The most powerful word an escort has in his arsenal is 'no, thank you'

[+ José Soplanucas]

@maxgoof , do not feel bad. We cannot have other than a sympathetic reaction to your experience, because we all went through similar ones when giving our first steps in this hobby. In my case it was a long process of error and trial, in two different cultures, in two different moments of my life. I had many experiences like the one you generously shared. I wish I had all the excellent advise you are getting here. Take advantage of it, and keep trying. Never give up!

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[MikeyGMin]

I reread my post and i regret using the word 'play'. I will just go back though to what it really is. It's roleplay and it can go on that way or in some cases they become a meaningful partnership between the escort and the client where the escort will behave to the client's desire.

 

And with regards to you having the money, control might be a strong word but maybe it's more like it does give you the option to choose who you want to be with and where you want to take it from there.

 

Thanks, @MikeyGMin. You are on point.

Now, I couldn't agree with you more.

 

Over the last couple of months I've been seeing a LOT of a young man who completely floats my boat. It's become an "arrangement." More than a simple client but less than a sugar daddy. We talk very openly, and somewhat euphemistically, about what our "part" is. (Which is pretty much the role play you're talking about.) I understand what he needs and he understands what I need -- what our role is. It's not going to lead to a genuine relationship and it is not going to last for an extended peroid, but I know we are both better off because of it.

[+ Funguy]

A number of years ago, once i got the hang of reading reviews and asking questions on the forum, i have not had a single, less than stellar experience. And, I will admit to being a slut! I hire often and have huge amounts of satisfaction and fun.

My method of madness is to first find who the little head likes. Then search him out, ask or research him on the forum, read his Daddy's Reviews. A single red flag is not enough to say no but a signal to dig.

 

Upfront payments for me are the kiss of death. Not a single guy in the past 5 years has ever asked. In fact, at the end I ask how much; sometimes it's less than the amount previously talked about or paid at previous encounters.

 

Unless these guys are Oscar quality actors, they are in this to enjoy themselves as well as please us. At least with me, I guarantee nobody is roleplaying. Sure, there may be some "you are hot" kind of stuff but when you feel the escort's heart beating a million miles an hour, when his breathing is less than controlled, when he looks you right in the eyes and says he wants to watch you as you fuck him, when he is an active participant . . . That is not role playing.

 

A few guys above have said you probably won't find all the things you are looking for in one guy, but they are flat out wrong. Your selection may be from a smaller pool but these guys are the big fish in the little pond and when they venture to the big pond, they are just as big there too.

These are the names you hear mentioned all the time in every location - either praise because someone had a terrific time or the client is hoping to have a meeting.

You need to start with the stellar, known quantities BEFORE you get to those hot, muscled gods. Then you can go, "Wow!"

[maxgoof]

I'm overwhelmed by all these thoughtful, considered responses! Thank you guys. This experience and now all this advice has really deepened my understanding of escorting and its particular relational qualities. It's definitely an interesting world, I'm looking forward to exploring it more.

[maxgoof]

Just to clarify: is it not more common, then, for money to be exchanged at the very beginning? Based on what I'd seen in movies, I always assumed this was the first thing to happen, so when he asked for it at the start I thought nothing of it. But some of you guys are saying that's a red flag...

[+ Tarte Gogo]

Just to clarify: is it not more common, then, for money to be exchanged at the very beginning? Based on what I'd seen in movies, I always assumed this was the first thing to happen, so when he asked for it at the start I thought nothing of it. But some of you guys are saying that's a red flag...

 

It is much more common to pay at the end.

On a first time meet, I have been asked to pay upfront only about 10% to 15% of the time (the clever escorts know that tipping is done afterwards, and if you pay before hands, there won't be tipping).

On a second meet, it is 0 %.

[+ José Soplanucas]

Just to clarify: is it not more common, then, for money to be exchanged at the very beginning? Based on what I'd seen in movies, I always assumed this was the first thing to happen, so when he asked for it at the start I thought nothing of it. But some of you guys are saying that's a red flag...

 

I am sure there are friends here that may disagree, but it is not red but a pink flag for me.

The scammers and the liars are not only on the escort side. Many times a professional has been left without his payment. I am understanding when it is a first meeting and he does not know me. A young and inexperienced escort may ask for the payment in advance in these circumstances in my opinion. A more experienced professional may ask you to just show him the money in these circumstances.

 

In my experience premium escorts have never asked me for the money, they have not even mentioned it. I would always drop it somewhere for them to pick up. It has happened to me only with young, novice professionals, or second class escorts (which does not mean their performances were not first class).

[Despardo]

Hi guys,

 

I just had my first escort experience and have some thoughts and questions that I wanted to share.

 

I had been trawling Rentmen for a few weeks, and last night finally decided I wanted to give it a go and book an hour with a guy. I'm in my mid 30s and my boyfriend was away. We play with others and he approved of me trying this out. I messaged the escort quite late; he got back to me immediately and said he could be at mine in half an hour. I realize this is quite abrupt and I should have planned ahead. I wasn't able to exchange more messages or speak with him about what I was looking for. Usually, when booking ahead, how much conversing do you have with the escort? How much detail do you go into about what you're looking for? In hindsight, I wish I had more time to express myself.

 

He arrives promptly and he is gorgeous. Toned, sexy, a killer smile. I lead him to the bedroom and tell him it's my first time with an escort. He tells me he usually begins with the exchange of money; I have it ready in an envelope and hand it to him. He quickly checks it, and puts it away. He then reveals a bottle of baby oil and says he likes to start with a message, "To help us get to know each other." I start panicking in my head: I actively don't like massages, and there was no mention of this on his ad. "I don't really like massages," I say awkwardly. "Ok, so straight to the sex," he says. I wasn't sure if this was an awkward or simply a straightforward moment; I was very nervous.

 

He asks for "intimate lighting," so turns off all lights except the bathroom light, leaving the bathroom door ajar. I don't like this, as it was quite dark and I like having sex in relative brightness. I thought, "I'm paying you so I can enjoy how hot you are." The darkness made that difficult. I suppose I should have said something, right?

 

We start kissing and immediately I'm disappointed. I am big on kissing and he was clearly holding back. It was all just pecks on my lips, one after another. No passion, no tongue, I don't think his mouth even opened once. I later noticed that Kissing wasn't listed as one of the activities on the What I'm Into section of his ad. This is one instance where I realize how important it should have been to communicate with him beforehand. If kissing is in fact not something he advertises, I wouldn't have hired him in the first place.

 

I suck him off and get off on his moaning. However when I look up, he has his eyes closed and he's looking away from me. I assume he's thinking of someone else, and here I truly realize this is a transaction, that this is not real sex like I have with my boyfriend. It's disappointing, but definitely very interesting to actually experience.

 

I then have to ask him to suck me off. I didn't like that I had to ask him, but it didn't seem like he was going to had I not asked. The blowjob he gave me was, like the kissing, dispassionate, at least when compared to my boyfriend's, or guys we hook up with on other occasions.

 

After a bit more lip-pecking, he reaches for the condoms and lube. It felt like it had barely been ten minutes. "Not yet," I say, and he complies. After a few more minutes of foreplay, he again reaches for the condoms and this time I just let him. It still felt too soon and rushed, but I was over resisting. I have my legs in the air and he fucks me, and I think, "It feels so good to have a man this hot inside me." While fucking me though, he never makes eye contact; he has his eyes closed, his face even turned away. It felt like he found me so repulsive that he couldn't keep his eyes open. I realize having to stay hard for anyone is an incredible skill, and I think what these guys do is amazing and of such value, but I couldn't help find it dispiriting. I like a guy looking into my eyes as he's thrusting into me, kissing me, holding me close. This was rote and dispassionate.

 

After a couple changes of position, I make myself cum while he's fucking me. I don't know what time it is but I realize how quick it's been. There is no post-coital cuddling and kissing, like I imagined. He gives me a few more lip pecks, gets up and says, "I should be going."

 

"Has it been an hour already?" I say.

 

"Usually it's over when the client cums, I don't really look at the clock."

 

He heads to the bathroom to get rid of the condom. I check the time on my phone: it had only been 30 minutes since he arrived! I feel so stupid for cumming so quickly, but realize it's also indicative of how not into it I was. Like I just wanted to get it over with.

 

I ask if I can help him cum. "Oh no, I've already cum today." He smiles awkwardly. I would have wanted to see him cum. Is this something you make explicit beforehand? Is this expectation unfair?

 

He gets dressed and calls an Uber. As he waits, we chat. He is so friendly, it makes me sad the sex was so disappointing. He tells me he too has a boyfriend, and I imagine how different the sex with him must be. "He's lucky," I say. He laughs.

 

When he leaves, he gives me the deepest lip-peck he had given me and strokes my shoulder. He was only with me for 45 minutes. It made me feel cheated, like I didn't get everything I paid for. Should I have asked him to stay longer?

 

I'm sorry for going on and on, but I wanted to get my full experience written down, for myself and anyone interested in reading. While I ultimately found the experience rushed and disappointing, I feel like I learned a lot. I definitely won't stop me from hiring again, and soon. What should I have done differently? Or more of? I am a bit confused by his performance, because his reviews are abundant and stellar. I suppose it also had to do with chemistry. But for what I paid, I thought I was going to get passion. Was he just not one of the best? Or am I being unrealistic?

 

If you've made it this far, thank you for reading, and any thoughts would be very welcome. I'm new to this, I'd like to learn and not have to overthink it so much.

Your story is very familiar. Been there, done that--and often. It pays to spend a little more time communicating before hiring, but even then, it can be a crapshoot. Just write him off. At least it wasn't a total disaster. Try to stick to well reviewed escorts, and even then there may be no chemistry. On the positive side, I have occasionally been with escorts I found totally satisfying and a few even rocked my world. When you hire someone you don't know, you roll the dice--sometimes you win...

[Despardo]

You want someone who gazes into your eyes while you are kissing and fucking ( sorry to be so crass ) you should give Mike Gaite a jingle.

Not only will he kiss your face off but he will look deep into you with the most incredibly sexually stirring eyes.

I don't know your location but if Mike does pass thru, don't hesitate.

 

Chemistry could be the missing link you did not have but it sure sounds like it was more. The escort knew you were new to this and it should have been the opposite of what you had - more time than less, not hurried at all, let YOU explore a bit.

 

We can all learn from your post, even those of us who do this often. Vetting the new guy is vital - esp here on Daddy's. I think it is the most reliable source in the field - not everybody will agree with all the reviews but there is a consensus most of the time.

Also, do not be afraid of posting a 411 on someone who you are thinking about. Let your big head do the thinking, the little head will have more fun.

JT Bravo in Palm Springs is an amazing kisser and stares directly into your eyes. Makes wonderful personal contact. Super hot guy, too. One of my best experiences in years. I took a chance on him (no reviews) and really lucked out bigtime.

[youngboldone]

JT Bravo in Palm Springs is an amazing kisser and stares directly into your eyes. Makes wonderful personal contact. Super hot guy, too. One of my best experiences in years. I took a chance on him (no reviews) and really lucked out bigtime.

 

Do you have a link, Despardo? I see a Johnny Bravo on RM. Is that the same guy you're referring to?

[Despardo]

Do you have a link, Despardo? I see a Johnny Bravo on RM. Is that the same guy you're referring to?

https://rent.men/JT_Bravo

 

His name is Jesse. Sweet, hot and talented guy.

[youngboldone]

I empathize with you, maxgoof. I had my first experience a few weeks ago, and I could have written the same post you did. My disappointments mirrored yours point by point. Don't give up, though (with the exception that I love massage and would have engaged in that as a form of foreplay). There are some great guys on this forum who are a wealth of information and great to interact with. I felt pretty demoralized after my first encounter, but I've since realized that it was only partly me. Most of the blame was with the escort I saw, who clearly was going through the motions and not interested in developing a connection with me. It's a learning experience. You don't have to hire that guy again. But I believe there are guys out there who truly enjoy this work and put 100% into pleasing every client and developing a genuine connection with them. So don't get down on yourself. When you feel ready, do thorough vetting and research here, and take the plunge again! Good luck!

[MikeyGMin]

But I believe there are guys out there who truly enjoy this work and put 100% into pleasing every client and developing a genuine connection with them.

There are! There are! I'm going broke there are so many.

[youngboldone]

There are! There are! I'm going broke there are so many.

 

Send some of them my way! LOL

[MartyB]

I've had similar experiences a few times and so am sympathetic to your situation. What I've done to try to minimize it happening is, first, to be Really clear with exactly what I want - I have a lengthy RM profile- and make sure my prospective companion has read it. It sounds like you got the generic experience... if you don't ask for extra pickles on your Wendy's burger you get the same combo #2 as everybody else.

Secondly, I'm careful in who I hire and it usually involves vetting written reviews or forum comments. Also I've found that hiring based purely on physical looks doesn't end well - look for personality first and then physical type second.

 

Even that isn't foolproof. A few weeks ago I had a really lousy experience with a guy about whom there were some positive comments and I had made sure he read my profile. It seemed as if he completely ignored my written preferences... I even ask him mid-stream if he'd read it ("yeah...and?").

 

Try again! My first experience was horrible but you gotta get back up on the horse. Find someone here on the forum and who has some positive commentary.

Well stated. The acronym we learn from our mistakes is very accurate in choosing escorts. I was very lucky when I graduated from erotic masseurs to escorts I met one of the finest men I could. I learned a lot about myself what I liked what I could do how to please another to give and receive in all ways I never imagined sexually. It was liberating and thrilling. After him I did the usual mistakes choosing a famous porn guy who came to town for 2 days based my choice solely on looks didn't check solid reviews. But like this OP my mistakes weren't terrible I got off so not a total loss. We have to also remember that a connection and chemistry is awesome but not always achieved.

[+ Funguy]

There are! There are! I'm going broke there are so many.

 

Me too.

 

Also, don't forget these guys are people also. The really good escorts are fun people at the same time and you really CAN tell who is having genuine fun and who is not!

[wklucas]

Me too.

 

Also, don't forget these guys are people also. The really good escorts are fun people at the same time and you really CAN tell who is having genuine fun and who is not!

 

Early in my hiring, the guy (a top) started breathing heavier, changed his position somewhat & started thrusting pretty forcefully....then he faked that he was cumming.....I couldn't help myself & started laughing at him....& I hope that wasn't fun for him.

[rvwnsd]

Hi guys,

 

Hi @maxgoof. Welcome to the Forum.

 

 

... Usually, when booking ahead, how much conversing do you have with the escort?...

 

Typically, I don't hire for last-minute playdates, particularly when hiring a guy for the first time. The escort and I exchange three or four emails.

 

 

...How much detail do you go into about what you're looking for?....

 

This is key! Everyone has their own method and here is mine:

 

 

"Hi, [name of escort] my name is [my name] and your ad caught my eye. I want to tell you a little about myself, see if we are compatible, and potentially set up an appointment. I [insert what I like to do here].

 

 

How does this sound to you?

 

 

Looking forward to hearing from you!

 

 

[my name]"

 

 

It usually takes a couple of emails to ascertain compatibility, determine a rate, and determine whether to move forward.

 

 

...I lead him to the bedroom and tell him it's my first time with an escort....

 

I would have mentioned this in my first email. However, that bell can't be un-rung.

 

 

...He tells me he usually begins with the exchange of money....

 

Hmm...that is not common. He really should have mentioned that before. Not a practice that appeals to me and when a guy tells me he wants the fee up-front I decline the meet.

 

 

...He then reveals a bottle of baby oil and says he likes to start with a message...

 

Another "hmm..." moment. First of all, baby oil is not a particularly good massage product as it is messy, greasy, and not condom-friendly. Second, it really doesn't matter what he likes to do - you are paying here. Sounds to me like he was trying to pad time with a "massage."

 

 

..."Ok, so straight to the sex," he says. I wasn't sure if this was an awkward or simply a straightforward moment....

 

This sounds a little awkward, odd, and off to me. And not on your part.

 

 

...He asks for "intimate lighting," so turns off all lights except the bathroom light, leaving the bathroom door ajar. I don't like this, as it was quite dark and I like having sex in relative brightness. I thought, "I'm paying you so I can enjoy how hot you are." The darkness made that difficult. I suppose I should have said something, right?...

 

That was not "intimate lighting" it was darkness. Sounds like he didn't want you to see him and he didn't want to see you. Yes, you should have said something. In fact, what you were thinking (minus the "I'm paying you..." part) would be a great thing to say. Don't beat yourself up for not having said something. My guess is at this point your brain was busy figuring out how to make this awkward meeting into something enjoyable.

 

 

...We start kissing and immediately I'm disappointed. I am big on kissing and he was clearly holding back....If kissing is in fact not something he advertises, I wouldn't have hired him in the first place....

 

A couple of notes on this: 1) Yes, it is important to communicate beforehand and confirm whether he gets into what you get into. 2) Sometimes, a guy gets into things he doesn't list and sometimes guys list things they don't get into. I always confirm.

 

 

...I suck him off and get off on his moaning. However when I look up, he has his eyes closed and he's looking away from me. I assume he's thinking of someone else...

 

Maybe, maybe not. That might be what he does when having sex and might explain the near darkness he requested. That said, I can see why you would make that assumption.

 

 

...I then have to ask him to suck me off. I didn't like that I had to ask him, but it didn't seem like he was going to had I not asked...

 

Your feeling is understandable, but it could be that he didn't know what to do next. He isn't a mind reader and this was the first (and presumably last) time you met. However, if you first said "I'd love to get my dick sucked" and then he didn't respond and you had to say "suck my dick" then there's an issue.

 

 

...The blowjob he gave me was, like the kissing, dispassionate, at least when compared to my boyfriend's, or guys we hook up with on other occasions....

 

He's in the wrong business or was very tired and should have declined the appointment. Don't take this personally.

 

 

... I have my legs in the air and he fucks me, and I think, "It feels so good to have a man this hot inside me." While fucking me though, he never makes eye contact; he has his eyes closed, his face even turned away. It felt like he found me so repulsive that he couldn't keep his eyes open.....

 

Given the context of this lovely appointment it is understandable that you feel this way. However, there are guys who keep their eyes closed while having sex. Eye contact is something I like, but many don't. One of the things I mention when communicating with a guy is "I just love looking into a guy's eyes while he fucks me." Depending on how a guy responds I make a decision to hire or not to hire.

 

 

... I like a guy looking into my eyes as he's thrusting into me, kissing me, holding me close. This was rote and dispassionate.....

 

I rarely have this level of intimacy with someone I hire for the first time. I can think of a few guys with whom this has occurred, but for me it typically takes a few times to develop this.

 

 

...After a couple changes of position, I make myself cum while he's fucking me. I don't know what time it is but I realize how quick it's been. There is no post-coital cuddling and kissing, like I imagined...

 

This is not surprising given his behavior up to this point. And at this point, did you really want kissing and cuddling with this guy? Honestly, it sounds like you were in "cut your losses" mode. Doesn't make the session any less disappointing of course.

 

 

...He gives me a few more lip pecks, gets up and says, "I should be going."…"Usually it's over when the client cums, ....

 

Not in my experience.

 

 

...I don't really look at the clock."....

 

I'll believe that line of bullshit when someone says they took 45 minutes to cum and he patiently stimulated them, despite the playdate running a half hour over time.

 

 

...I ask if I can help him cum. "Oh no, I've already cum today." He smiles awkwardly. I would have wanted to see him cum. Is this something you make explicit beforehand? Is this expectation unfair?...

 

When I really want to see a guy cum (which is often), I say so when we make first contact. Your desire to see him cum is NOT unfair. That said, there are times when a guy just can't cum. My guess is you would not have been so disappointed by his lack of cumming had the rest of the date gone better. I'm right there with you.

 

 

... He tells me he too has a boyfriend, and I imagine how different the sex with him must be....

 

Don't feel envious quite yet. It may be the same. However, his boyfriend will have a harder time getting rid of him than you did.

 

 

... He was only with me for 45 minutes. It made me feel cheated, like I didn't get everything I paid for. Should I have asked him to stay longer?...

 

Ask yourself this question: would you feel better about the overall date if he stuck around for another fifteen minutes?

 

 

...I'm sorry for going on and on, but I wanted to get my full experience written down, for myself and anyone interested in reading....

 

No need to apologize. That's what we are here for.

 

 

...While I ultimately found the experience rushed and disappointing, I feel like I learned a lot. I definitely won't stop me from hiring again, and soon....

 

Good to hear you found the silver lining. Great to hear this won't deter you from hiring again.

 

 

...What should I have done differently? Or more of?...

 

I think you should have stated what you wanted up front, asked whether he was up for it and mentioned the importance of passionate kissing. In fact, it would have been a good idea to mention you were looking for passion.

 

 

... I am a bit confused by his performance, because his reviews are abundant and stellar. ...

 

Here's the thing about reviews - they describe someone else's impression of their experience. To use an analogy, if you like strawberry ice cream the reviews about pomegranate sorbet don't do you a bit of good.

 

 

...I suppose it also had to do with chemistry. But for what I paid, I thought I was going to get passion. Was he just not one of the best? Or am I being unrealistic?...

 

While I don't think this guy performed very well, there are a couple of things you could have done differently:

 

• Avoid late-night appointments. The guy might have been tired.
  
• Avoid last-minute appointments. You have no idea what the rest of his day was like.
  
• Communicate, communicate, communicate
  

[+ JEC]

I'm on my 10th or so experience and have had this type of negative experience with 2 or 3, a few were just "meh" and a few were mind-blowing. The info on this forum has helped me be more informed and selective in my hiring (thanks guys!).

 

A few things I have learned

- be clear (with yourself what you want / don't want)

- then be clear with your provider what you want / don't want

- avoid anyone who says PNP - not my thing and many sketches here IMHO (although i did have one super hot experience, we did not PNP but his ad said he was into it ChrisitanJose from NYC)

- don't engage with people with no reviews. Also be aware, RM has rejected 2 negative reviews I submitted which had sound basis so don't rely solely on RM reviews.

- don't fall in love with pictures/ads they are marketing material and don't always reflect what you get. Also, if you are strictly top or bottom, be clear what your provider is - verse is a broad category (I'm all top and want someone to loves to bottom, not someone "willing to".

- don't hire more that 1 hour first session

- if something feels "off" in your exchange with a provider, it is - move on don't let your "little head" prevail

- the best experiences I have had are with men who understand they are a service provider and take the role seriously - meaning they are committed to you getting what you want from the experience. Their ad should reflect that, their reviews should reflect that and their attitude during your interactions with them should reflect that

- I will not host, avoid situations where the provider cannot host and you get a hotel. I've rented a hotel room 2x and had the provider cancel sticking me with the cost of the hotel room

 

Super Hot

- Jackson Davis from Orlando (hot ginger bottom, recently expired RM ad)

- Victor Powers

- Jackson Grant

- Mike Gaite

- GloriousGio (Orlando)

- Christian Jose (NYC)

- CodyS (NYC)

 

I won't mention the negative experiences by name here but will post when people call a 411 on them

 

Happy hunting, don't give up your "perfect experience" is out there but like many things in life you have to work a little for it (and learn GE ropes).

[SuperJunior]

I would find it really creepy for some stranger to want to stare in my eyes while I was fucking them. The kissing part wasn't listed which is no fault of his own.

 

Next time ask for a BF experience. Everyone knows what that means.

 

I'm pretty sure that no one knows what a BF experience means. I'll bet if you describe your idea of what everyone thinks it is, you'll have many folks who disagree. A basic BFE search on this forum reveals that no one has any accepted definition.

[mike carey]

I'm on my 10th or so experience and have had this type of negative experience with 2 or 3, a few were just "meh" and a few were mind-blowing. The info on this forum has helped me be more informed and selective in my hiring (thanks guys!).

 

A few things I have learned

- be clear (with yourself what you want / don't want)

- then be clear with your provider what you want / don't want

- avoid anyone who says PNP - not my thing and many sketches here IMHO (although i did have one super hot experience, we did not PNP but his ad said he was into it ChrisitanJose from NYC)

- don't engage with people with no reviews. Also be aware, RM has rejected 2 negative reviews I submitted which had sound basis so don't rely solely on RM reviews.

- don't fall in love with pictures/ads they are marketing material and don't always reflect what you get. Also, if you are strictly top or bottom, be clear what your provider is - verse is a broad category (I'm all top and want someone to loves to bottom, not someone "willing to".

- don't hire more that 1 hour first session

- if something feels "off" in your exchange with a provider, it is - move on don't let your "little head" prevail

- the best experiences I have had are with men who understand they are a service provider and take the role seriously - meaning they are committed to you getting what you want from the experience. Their ad should reflect that, their reviews should reflect that and their attitude during your interactions with them should reflect that

- I will not host, avoid situations where the provider cannot host and you get a hotel. I've rented a hotel room 2x and had the provider cancel sticking me with the cost of the hotel room

 

Super Hot

- Jackson Davis from Orlando (hot ginger bottom, recently expired RM ad)

- Victor Powers

- Jackson Grant

- Mike Gaite

- GloriousGio (Orlando)

- Christian Jose (NYC)

- CodyS (NYC)

 

I won't mention the negative experiences by name here but will post when people call a 411 on them

 

Happy hunting, don't give up your "perfect experience" is out there but like many things in life you have to work a little for it (and learn GE ropes).

 

And don't regard these rules as being absolute!