Haggling with Escorts?

[MikeyGMin]

Clients are customers... not the bosses

Nicely said. This topic comes up at least every other month and I can't remember this point being made so succinctly.

[KennF]

So, it's not a new employment situation that Escorts in this scenario are being somehow interviewed for~

 

The post I responded to did not say that there was an ongoing relationship (provider/client).

 

Clients are customers... not the bosses and they also need to respect the service provider~

 

Absolutely agree. I only mention that what you consider 'disrespect' may differ from the next person. An escort that varies his rate, or builds in a negotiable piece to his rates, may consider it totally fine to engage in the negotiation process.

 

In effect, much of the vetting process is about negotiating. "Are you willing to go to dinner?", "Can we meet at your place?", "Will you provide <x> service?", etc... So, for some, price is just as flexible as the other pieces. And for others, it isn't.

 

Culture plays a huge part in what is acceptable or not, what is respectful or not, what is good natured or not, ... For me, I don't like to haggle prices, but then I prefer someone who I can tip generously. If their price point is too high, then I can't get that feel good moment of paying extra to show how I felt.

[DadBearDallas]

As a client...I will occasionally let a prospective play buddy "that's too rich for my blood" when there is no rate posted and the rate seems high. Sometimes they will come back with a counter. That's as far as I would "haggle".

[+ VictorPowers]

Ah the "Haggle". What is more frustrating? Haggling or No shows? Every scenario I treat differently. Oftentimes I'm traveling and keep a busy schedule. A lower rate would mean I lose money when I otherwise would be booked with 100% of the rate I ask. One off scenarios I give it a go. I like @DadBearDallas approach. They offer, I counter, we agree or meet in middle.

[+ freecahill1965]

As a client...I will occasionally let a prospective play buddy "that's too rich for my blood" when there is no rate posted and the rate seems high. Sometimes they will come back with a counter. That's as far as I would "haggle".

Ah the "Haggle". What is more frustrating? Haggling or No shows? Every scenario I treat differently. Oftentimes I'm traveling and keep a busy schedule. A lower rate would mean I lose money when I otherwise would be booked with 100% of the rate I ask. One off scenarios I give it a go. I like @DadBearDallas approach. They offer, I counter, we agree or meet in middle.

 

The haggle thing seems so weird to even try. I think this person is willing to cum in my room and stick their tongue down my throat and play tongue hockey for as long as I request. They are willing to give me a massage that makes me feel great. They will suck my dick, lick my balls and rimm ass hole. For these guys, I feel so greatful that I can find someone to make me feel so good on a sexual level that the price their price is always reasonable. My problem is figuring out how much extra to bring for the tip.

[+ VictorPowers]

Well I wish they were all like you. Many forget that we are professionals and have our set prices.

[desertguy1954]

That's not the case though~ Many Escorts have set wages... Prior to recent changes, those dates were posted on their profiles/websites... Some still have that~

Additionally, Escorts can and do have regular Clients... I've had some for as long as 17yrs~ So, it's not a new employment situation that Escorts in this scenario are being somehow interviewed for~

Being entrepreneurial, Escorts are their own "Boss" and the Clients are their Clients, not their boss~

Clients are to be respected and treated fairly but, in reality, Clients are customers... not the bosses and they also need to respect the service provider~

Again, as I mentioned earlier... Vacillating rates created an inequity/disrespect to Clients, (unfair that some get discounts and others don't)...

 

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I agree, I am the customer. I am the one that has opened up a dialogue of us possibly connecting. There are two things that I look at before reaching out to an escort. First from his profile do I feel we would enjoy our time together.

The second is the rate, I am the one who decides if I am willing to pay his rate. If not, I move on. Their service is not like haggling in the market place. If you cannot afford move on.

[+ freecahill1965]

Well I wish they were all like you. Many forget that we are professionals and have our set prices.

I think you hit it on the head. ( pun intended) Escorts offer this awesome professional service. It is a job like any other just a bit more fun in some cases. I don't know how many I have hired any more but I have only one good enough to be my regular. He is a true professional and works at making sure I am pleased each and every time. I could not imagine asking him to negotiate rate. My expections are high and I feel that price is his guarantee for a true professional providing excellent service.

[+ Tygerscent]

I agree, I am the customer. I am the one that has opened up a dialogue of us possibly connecting. There are two things that I look at before reaching out to an escort. First from his profile do I feel we would enjoy our time together.

The second is the rate, I am the one who decides if I am willing to pay his rate. If not, I move on. Their service is not like haggling in the market place. If you cannot afford move on.

And I think It's unfair to continually drive the Escorts wages down when the cost of living and running a business goes up steadily, especially in light of the fact that Escorting can be a persons career/profession... their sole income and not just a hobby~

[KennF]

And I think It's unfair to continually drive the Escorts wages down when the cost of living and running a business goes up steadily, especially in light of the fact that Escorting can be a persons career/profession... their sole income and not just a hobby~

 

Now wait a minute. I have to draw a line here.

 

FWIW: Economic generality... The function of the clients is to get the most value at the least cost. It is the function of the providers to create a value-add or differentiation, so they can collect more revenue.

 

As an individual client, it is not my responsibility, to make sure that all providers (or even the ones I hire) are earning a wage that keeps them in the style of life to which they choose. That's their responsibility. I am only one client and I am sure they have others. It is THEIR time and THEIR business.

 

Now, if you have an ongoing client, then I wouldn't expect a haggled price (unless the client enjoys that). But if you have a first time, or one-off, then it isn't unreasonable.

 

A lower rate would mean I lose money when I otherwise would be booked with 100% of the rate I ask.

 

Every person in a deal wonders how much money they left on the table.

• Could you raise your price and still get the same # of clients, or more? If so, then you're price is too low.
  
  • Some clients are willing to pay more than you ask.
    
  • Some clients won't engage because your asking price is too low.
    

  [*]Could you lower your price and gain more clients to make up the difference (and be okay with that physically/emotionally)? If so, then you're charging too much.

  • Some clients are willing to pay less than you ask.
    
  • Some clients won't engage because your asking price is too high.
    

[+ VictorPowers]

Now wait a minute. I have to draw a line here.

 

FWIW: Economic generality... The function of the clients is to get the most value at the least cost. It is the function of the providers to create a value-add or differentiation, so they can collect more revenue.

 

As an individual client, it is not my responsibility, to make sure that all providers (or even the ones I hire) are earning a wage that keeps them in the style of life to which they choose. That's their responsibility. I am only one client and I am sure they have others. It is THEIR time and THEIR business.

 

Now, if you have an ongoing client, then I wouldn't expect a haggled price (unless the client enjoys that). But if you have a first time, or one-off, then it isn't unreasonable.

 

 

 

Every person in a deal wonders how much money they left on the table.

• Could you raise your price and still get the same # of clients, or more? If so, then you're price is too low.
  
  • Some clients are willing to pay more than you ask.
    
  • Some clients won't engage because your asking price is too low.
    

  [*]Could you lower your price and gain more clients to make up the difference (and be okay with that physically/emotionally)? If so, then you're charging too much.

  • Some clients are willing to pay less than you ask.
    
  • Some clients won't engage because your asking price is too high.
    

Perfectly stated!

[+ Tygerscent]

Now wait a minute. I have to draw a line here.

 

FWIW: Economic generality... The function of the clients is to get the most value at the least cost. It is the function of the providers to create a value-add or differentiation, so they can collect more revenue.

 

As an individual client, it is not my responsibility, to make sure that all providers (or even the ones I hire) are earning a wage that keeps them in the style of life to which they choose. That's their responsibility. I am only one client and I am sure they have others. It is THEIR time and THEIR business.

 

Now, if you have an ongoing client, then I wouldn't expect a haggled price (unless the client enjoys that). But if you have a first time, or one-off, then it isn't unreasonable.

 

 

 

Every person in a deal wonders how much money they left on the table.

• Could you raise your price and still get the same # of clients, or more? If so, then you're price is too low.
  
  • Some clients are willing to pay more than you ask.
    
  • Some clients won't engage because your asking price is too low.
    

  [*]Could you lower your price and gain more clients to make up the difference (and be okay with that physically/emotionally)? If so, then you're charging too much.

  • Some clients are willing to pay less than you ask.
    
  • Some clients won't engage because your asking price is too high.
    

Now wait a minute. I have to draw a line here.

 

FWIW: Economic generality... The function of the clients is to get the most value at the least cost. It is the function of the providers to create a value-add or differentiation, so they can collect more revenue.

 

As an individual client, it is not my responsibility, to make sure that all providers (or even the ones I hire) are earning a wage that keeps them in the style of life to which they choose. That's their responsibility. I am only one client and I am sure they have others. It is THEIR time and THEIR business.

 

Now, if you have an ongoing client, then I wouldn't expect a haggled price (unless the client enjoys that). But if you have a first time, or one-off, then it isn't unreasonable.

 

 

 

Every person in a deal wonders how much money they left on the table.

• Could you raise your price and still get the same # of clients, or more? If so, then you're price is too low.
  
  • Some clients are willing to pay more than you ask.
    
  • Some clients won't engage because your asking price is too low.
    

  [*]Could you lower your price and gain more clients to make up the difference (and be okay with that physically/emotionally)? If so, then you're charging too much.

  • Some clients are willing to pay less than you ask.
    
  • Some clients won't engage because your asking price is too high.
    

So... what exactly is the line you are drawing and the point of your economical discourse~? I see the illustration of economic theory here but, your assumption is that it works in the Escorting world...

You leave a lot out when imposing this paradigm on this topic. ie., comparative wages between female courtesan/escorts and male courtesan/escorts, between Escorts and prostitutes... business overhead,

Does your construct work with physicians~? If I go to a doctor does is it fine to ask him to lower his prices for me~? In your personal opinion, it is okay~

Why~? But, why is it not okay and why doesn't it work that way~?

I have Clients who hire both men and women~ High end women courtesan/Escorts may charge something in the range of $600/hr... $3k/per night... (no erection or ejaculation required but a non-refundable down payment/hiring fee to cover cancelations is).

Your theory is correct in that some people like to shop Walmart and others at The House of Bijan or Bourdon House of London... but, I don't think you will be haggling at either regardless of the difference in quality~

[+ Keith30309]

A guy I meet pretty regularly (once a week for a couple of hours) told me Tuesday that he was raising his rate by $50/hr effective Oct 1... that's +$100/visit for me. I think (and told him) that's quite alright because he undervalued himself to begin with, but am nonetheless going through just the assessment that @KennF outlines.

Perhaps he does something that slightly alters our experience together but my default assumption is that will not be the case.

 

When I'm juggling all the variables around who is visiting town, who is here, what sort of experience am I seeking that week, etc., then the +$100 is one of the variables in the equation.

For me, the one point around which this economic model breaks down is that much of my decision-making is purely emotional and so the notion of supply/demand and price elasticity don't work.

 

 

Silly humans.

[+ Tygerscent]

A guy I meet pretty regularly (once a week for a couple of hours) told me Tuesday that he was raising his rate by $50/hr effective Oct 1... that's +$100/visit for me. I think (and told him) that's quite alright because he undervalued himself to begin with, but am nonetheless going through just the assessment that @KennF outlines.

Perhaps he does something that slightly alters our experience together but my default assumption is that will not be the case.

 

When I'm juggling all the variables around who is visiting town, who is here, what sort of experience am I seeking that week, etc., then the +$100 is one of the variables in the equation.

For me, the one point around which this economic model breaks down is that much of my decision-making is purely emotional and so the notion of supply/demand and price elasticity don't work.

 

 

Silly humans.

precisely~ there are different considerations/concerns in he Escort/Client business relationship they make it unique~

[KennF]

So... what exactly is the line you are drawing and the point of your economical discourse~? I see the illustration of economic theory here but, your assumption is that it works in the Escorting world...

You leave a lot out when imposing this paradigm on this topic. ie., comparative wages between female courtesan/escorts and male courtesan/escorts, between Escorts and prostitutes... business overhead,

Does your construct work with physicians~? If I go to a doctor does is it fine to ask him to lower his prices for me~? In your personal opinion, it is okay~

Why~? But, why is it not okay and why doesn't it work that way~?

I have Clients who hire both men and women~ High end women courtesan/Escorts may charge something in the range of $600/hr... $3k/per night... (no erection or ejaculation required but a non-refundable down payment/hiring fee to cover cancelations is).

Your theory is correct in that some people like to shop Walmart and others at The House of Bijan or Bourdon House of London... but, I don't think you will be haggling at either regardless of the difference in quality~

 

Thank you for all the factors you mention. They happen at a different point in the economic life-cycle, but are interesting.

 

You said it was unfair to drive escort rates down. You expressed that in a haggling thread. Well, since the haggling is done by clients, I take exception to that inference.

 

It isn't the clients responsibility to not drive prices up.

 

Escorts can either ignore/complain about the economics, or, understand them and make their own choices on how to approach their business.

 

So, my point is that it isn't the responsibility of the customer to make sure that rates go up.