15 minute rule?

[Mocha]

I was scheduled to meet an out of town escort for a two hour session at his hotel this afternoon, and we agreed I would text him when I arrived in the lobby with a description of what I was wearing. However, after waiting 15 minutes in the lobby for him with an additional text and a phone call, I gave up on him and headed home. Then 20 minutes later, he texted me saying he had slept through his alarm and asked me if I could come back. I did not go back because he was a no show for our agreed upon time.

 

Did I act reasonably?

 

Sorry guys but as an escort, I side with the client on this one to an extent.

 

It'd been different if the text or call was answered, but it wasn't. Plus, i could see if it was a morning appointment....as I've slept thru alarms, sonic booms, thunderstorms, etc etc. But by afternoon you should be up unless the escort was in need of his sleep, in which the appointment should have been pushed for later.

 

Also key red flag here: meeting in the lobby. Most times I've been stood up whether getting paid or free have been refusals to give out room number upon arrival. Why do i need to meet you in the lobby? Unless it's a key card hotel, Nan.

 

If I refused the text and call of a client 15minutes after they arrived, I'd expect them to take off as well. However...it's different if the escort says, hey i need 15-20 more minutes. Plus....if he just woke up, how's he gonna be in the mood for 2 hour appointment? I generally need a full hour after waking before I see anyone.

 

The other thing that's bad about waiting in some hotel lobbies (usually the smaller Hampton inn or less busy boutique hotels), is some anal bitches will come up to you and ask who you're seeing and what room number. If you ask to see someone named Jerry Driver or Rod Rider which is not booked under that name and don't have the room number, you're gonna be looking stupid as hell...and might be asked to leave.

[instudiocity]

Once a meeting (or proposed meeting) goes wrong, it would take an amazing performance by the provider to overcome the negative feelings, and many guys are not that good. You may have missed a good time, but the risk-reward turned against you. So, don't bum yourself out.

I personally never achieved orgasm, spurred on by my chosen partner, to be anything less than AMAZING.

 

Every escort-involved orgasm has exceeded my own ability to satisfy myself.

[instudiocity]

I know Daddy's rules. "No show" reviews are not allowed, but I, personally, will not book with this guy again.

Absolute hypotheticals have nothing to do with life. How about this hypothetical, "What if you and the provider washed up on a deserted island. Would you still refuse to fuck him?"

 

Learning to accept the gosh-darn humanity of others usually comes from the recognition that you too are not perfect. From your resolute declaration, one might think you've never been 35 minutes or even 15 minutes late to an event that was more important to the other person than to you.

 

Live and let live, bud. If you didn't want to go back, that's fine. You were given an A or B choice and chose A. Great. But declaring the provider's malfeasance, permanently, simply because of a one time timing error seems to ultimately deny you opportunities you just might enjoy.

 

I just hope this guy isn't named Escort of the Year. Your inability to accept his humanity, forgive him and move on could interfere with your ability to enjoy a really great guy.

[OCClient]

Ddn't hear my alarm does not have a genuine ring to it. I was flaked on by the same guy, his place, twice in a row. Driving through LA traffic to get there.....I felt stupid.

[instudiocity]

Ddn't hear my alarm does not have a genuine ring to it. I was flaked on by the same guy, his place, twice in a row. Driving through LA traffic to get there.....I felt stupid.

Didn't... ring genuine? Why didn't you just say, 'the escort is a liar'?

 

It was what it was, none of us, including the OC, 'Original Complainer', in this case, will know what was or wasn't true. This whole campaign is based on the "what-if's" other than what was a 35 minute late call/text/attempt-to-contact. Everything else in this thread is is pure biased conjecture and speculation. Puhleeeease!

[OCClient]

Didn't... ring genuine? Why didn't you just say, 'the escort is a liar'?

 

It was what it was, none of us, including the OC, 'Original Complainer', in this case, will know what was or wasn't true. This whole campaign is based on the "what-if's" other than what was a 35 minute late call/text/attempt-to-contact. Everything else in this thread is is pure biased conjecture and speculation. Puhleeeease!

Because I don't want to sound like such an a-hole.

[instudiocity]

Because I don't want to sound like such an a-hole.

Too late!

[MikeBiDude]

I place the "sleeping through the alarm" excuse on par with "the dog ate my homework". Skip it.

Or "my phone died I didn't have a charger", "my phone got dropped in the pool", "...stolen", etc.

[+ PapaTony]

I place the "sleeping through the alarm" excuse on par with "the dog ate my homework". Skip it.

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Agreed. More likely he ran past his time with earlier client.

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[+ Keith30309]

For me there is no single answer... it depends on allot of factors like communication, knowledge about the individual and past reliability, my schedule that day, the likelihood that I would want to and be able to reschedule.

 

About 2 weeks ago I sat in my car in the parking lot outside someone's apartment for 30 minutes before leaving. He'd fallen asleep and didn't wake up until 1:45 later (the second time he fell asleep - the first I hadn't left yet). I'd have had a long wait. He's got a red X on my Atlanta 'recommend' list given this and the several false starts prior.

 

On the other hand, I waited for an hour for someone who was doing an outcall to my hotel room and we had a great time and I've since rehired. In that case I wasn't going anywhere anyway and it was too late for a plan B.

 

Sometimes stuff just happens... I once waited on a guy who's Uber had gotten pulled over by a cop and it took nearly an hour (though he was communicating during this delay.)

It depends.

[buckguy]

Yeah, we've all been late for things, but.......providing time to people is this guy's job. In general, if there is a major last minute hiccup on time (e.g., more than you could allow with "traffic"), then things rarely go well. The situation here is one where the client did the right thing. having to make a "respectable show" at the place of business is a burden no one should have. Yes, there are a few flakes who seem to deliver, and a few people with genuine problems that pop-up, but significant scheduling problems, esp. w/o notice are mostly going to lead to poor experiences. And you need to communicate by your action that this is not something the guy should do in the future.

[mike carey]

I've been having a conversation with someone from here on flight delays. He has been travelling point to point and being bedevilled with delays that have disrupted his schedule. I haven't had such delays here, not that I fly all that much, but in thinking about my experience I had a significant delay on a flight a few months ago. The difference with mine was that I had a connecting flight after it, and a reasonable gap. The delayed flight, although with a different airline, was a codeshare flight with my onward sector, so it was the airline's problem if I didn't make the connection. In summary, unlike his, my delay didn't, or was unlikely to matter. My level of convenience wouldn't be affected by the delay. And I did make the connection. The same can apply to escort appointments. If they fall through it can ruin your day. Alternatively, forgoing a planned appointment and moving to plan B (same guy tomorrow, different guy now or tomorrow, TV tonight instead of escort and escort later) can be adopted seamlessly. It all depends on the circumstances. It helps, of course, if you know what is happening.

[+ Tarte Gogo]

The other thing that's bad about waiting in some hotel lobbies (usually the smaller Hampton inn or less busy boutique hotels), is some anal bitches will come up to you and ask who you're seeing and what room number. If you ask to see someone named Jerry Driver or Rod Rider which is not booked under that name and don't have the room number, you're gonna be looking stupid as hell...and might be asked to leave.

Well, except if you order a cocktail to keep them busy serving you (which I recommend a client to do in that case).

[instudiocity]

Well, except if you order a cocktail to keep them busy serving you (which I recommend a client to do in that case).

:pABSOLUTEly! or BOMBAY SAPPHIREly? I wouldn't want the escort to be forced to taste whisky or rum when finally I kiss him.

[Bearofdistinction]

Sometimes. you just got to be a mensch

 

And If he has a thick and spicy Pastrami -- and a load of Creamy Coleslaw --- Then Menshing is easier!

 

Im hungry all of a sudden . . .

[KennF]

Well, times have changed. I was always taught that 5 minutes late is tolerable, on-time is acceptable, 5 minutes early is the right time. Over the years, and under most circumstances, I can push that to -15, 0, 15.

 

In this situation, 35 minutes late is crazy. That's between 1/4 and 1/3 of the appointment. Anyone want to go to a baseball game and miss 3 innings? 1st Qtr of a football game? First half hour of a movie? Appetizer course on a dinner?

 

I probably wouldn't have turned around. I'd be upset at being stood up, my time wasted and feeling disrespected. What would he do to offset that. And, instead starting at "anticipating", I'd be starting at "wasted my time".

 

The right thing for him to do was say, "hey, I'm sorry. If you want, come back, and it is on the house." or "Please accept my apology, how can I make it up to you?"

[+ RandyBoy]

If by 15 minutes with no response from the escort, then I too would have left. I too would not have gone back. It's not a good beginning to the experience. Caveat? How badly did I want this guy? Norma Shearer's final line in the classic and still relevant 1930s play and 1939 movie The Women roars into my head, "pride is a luxury a woman in love cannot afford."

[mike carey]

Well, times have changed. I was always taught that 5 minutes late is tolerable, on-time is acceptable, 5 minutes early is the right time.

Dinner invitations are not always a good analogue for professional appointments, but for them, arriving early is inexcusable. The term 'fashionably late' is there for a reason. If the appointment were with a doctor, how many times would his/her adherence to the specified time be expected? It all comes down to whether the meeting or the time of it is more important.

[+ José Soplanucas]

If by 15 minutes with no response from the escort, then I too would have left. I too would not have gone back. It's not a good beginning to the experience. Caveat? How badly did I want this guy? Norma Shearer's final line in the classic and still relevant 1930s play and 1939 movie The Women roars into my head, "pride is a luxury a woman in love cannot afford."

LOL

[bigvalboy]

Dinner invitations are not always a good analogue for professional appointments, but for them, arriving early is inexcusable. The term 'fashionably late' is there for a reason. If the appointment were with a doctor, how many times would his/her adherence to the specified time be expected? It all comes down to whether the meeting or the time of it is more important.

 

Well said...

[MassageDrew]

I was scheduled to meet an out of town escort for a two hour session at his hotel this afternoon, and we agreed I would text him when I arrived in the lobby with a description of what I was wearing. However, after waiting 15 minutes in the lobby for him with an additional text and a phone call, I gave up on him and headed home. Then 20 minutes later, he texted me saying he had slept through his alarm and asked me if I could come back. I did not go back because he was a no show for our agreed upon time.

 

Did I act reasonably?

 

I think you gave him enough time. So he slept through his alarm, was his phone on silent as well that he could not hear the messages and phone ringing? That's on him. I sometimes end up arriving early for an appointment but wait until the last 5-10 minutes before asking if I can come up. I prefer getting there early than late. As a provoder, he should have been ready.

[+ poolboy48220]

Dinner invitations are not always a good analogue for professional appointments, but for them, arriving early is inexcusable. The term 'fashionably late' is there for a reason. If the appointment were with a doctor, how many times would his/her adherence to the specified time be expected? It all comes down to whether the meeting or the time of it is more important.

True. Some friends arrived early for an evening of watching movies, "because they were already in the neighborhood". I wasn't ready yet, still setting stuff up, and my roommate/sister who was getting ready for her *own* night out was still running between the bathroom and her bedroom. My friend's boyfriend kept trying to sneak peeks, kinda creepy.

[Maximus69]

Like @Mocha said why would the escort still be sleeping so close to the time when he's suppose to be meeting up someone.... and if he was truly sleeping he would have been groggy and cranky as hell so its best you didnt go through with it.

 

 

somethings fishy, he could have missed your call bc he was finishing up with another client lol

and needed those extra 15 minutes to change the sheets and shower

 

15 minutes is the absolute max amount of time I would wait for someone especially if I heard no updates from them... time is money and its extremely rude to be tardy especially from a first time meeting with someone. An escort job is simple, be cute and on time .....

[rossthebosssf]

15 minutes with no communication, you have a perfect right to walk away. I've been forgiving if there's been communication and have waited up to 30 minutes. After that, the escort clearly has better things to do. On one occasion I did have an escort oversleep his alarm and he called me about an hour later. The fact that he called and was apologetic and sounded so damn sexy on the phone, I went back to the hotel. I respected that he actually called. Most people hide behind text which I find even more annoying.

[Rudynate]

I place the "sleeping through the alarm" excuse on par with "the dog ate my homework". Skip it.

 

 

I used to think that. But just the other day, I slept through an alarm.