Columbus Ohio: White Utopia?

[Mocha]

First time visiting. Surprised there's no diversity on the paid ads compared to the demographics of the city itself. Based on the rather lukewarm approach I've received in my DMs, doesn't seem like there's much enthusiasm for such.

 

https://rentmen.com/gay-escorts/columbus-oh/

[Deadlift1]

I love good ole farm boys. might be time for a visit.

[Mocha]

I love good ole farm boys. might be time for a visit.

 

http://pics.city-data.com/craces2/19406.jpg

 

Well that's cute. Not to be smart by saying utopia, but makes me wonder sometimes: If there's only White guys advertising, yet the town itself shows a more racially diverse demo; are they the only ones who can make it? I can understand only White advertisers in Portland, Oregon or Salt lake city. But Columbus? Makes you think only 1 prototype can do well in a particular place.

 

I'll have to file Columbus under the same YRMV as St Louis, Kansas city, and Nashville. There's potential there, it looks promising, then you get there and you're like WTF? Turns out it might take days, weeks, MONTHS to actually see any of that potential. Which isn't conducive when traveling during summer where hotels are averaging out to $100-150 a night.

[LaffingBear]

Few things are one-dimensional.

 

Maybe its attitude. Maybe there's a more pronounced racial-disposable income correlation. Maybe theres something about government employees. Maybe all the OSU boys are available.

[Mocha]

Few things are one-dimensional.

 

Maybe its attitude. Maybe there's a more pronounced racial-disposable income correlation. Maybe theres something about government employees. Maybe all the OSU boys are available.

 

By attitude you mean? From which side of the coin? Escort/client or vanilla/chocolate?

[Decatur Guy]

I'd almost think there'd be opportunity there. There are some white men who only want to be with black men. That's certainly true in Atlanta. And if no other black men are advertising, no competition. Easier to stand out.

 

Of course, any black escort in Atlanta will not stand out at all.

[Decatur Guy]

OK -- so I just looked at the Columbus site. No black men and a higher ratio of versatile / versatile-bottom / bottoms than I've ever seen. If I were a black escort, I'd advertise as a total top and get to Columbus.

[nynakedtop]

First time visiting. Surprised there's no diversity on the paid ads compared to the demographics of the city itself. Based on the rather lukewarm approach I've received in my DMs, doesn't seem like there's much enthusiasm for such.

 

https://rentmen.com/gay-escorts/columbus-oh/

 

i was a little bit taken aback by the notion of Columbus as a "white utopia" due to the lack of any men of color advertising and the OP's chilly reception there ... if anything, I might want to call it a white wasteland instead!

[Larstrup]

Instead of always looking for ways to further self-perceived racial bias - why not look inward for ways to change it and promote that?

[marylander1940]

I'd almost think there'd be opportunity there. There are some white men who only want to be with black men. That's certainly true in Atlanta. And if no other black men are advertising, no competition. Easier to stand out.

 

Of course, any black escort in Atlanta will not stand out at all.

 

@Mocha @Decatur Guy how's the ratio in Atlanta or New Orleans?

[nynakedtop]

Instead of always looking for ways to further self-perceived racial bias - why not look inward for ways to change it and promote that?

ohhhh myyyyyy

 

this is a rabbit hole that i really don't want to go down, but will never forgive myself if i remain totally silent.

 

with the request that this not go tooooo far, let me just say that 1) white people are not the ones who should be denying racism, 2) the problem is not "self perceived racial bias", rather, it is a structural racism so deeply entrenched within American society that the very possibility of America is inconceivable without it, and, 3) looking "inward" is not the issue - struggling to change society is.

 

enough for a saturday eve

[LaffingBear]

By attitude you mean? From which side of the coin? Escort/client or vanilla/chocolate?

Either, both. Multivariate.

[Larstrup]

ohhhh myyyyyy

 

this is a rabbit hole that i really don't want to go down, but will never forgive myself if i remain totally silent.

 

with the request that this not go tooooo far, let me just say that 1) white people are not the ones who should be denying racism, 2) the problem is not "self perceived racial bias", rather, it is a structural racism so deeply entrenched within American society that the very possibility of America is inconceivable without it, and, 3) looking "inward" is not the issue - struggling to change society is.

 

enough for a saturday eve

 

Slow down, my friend. I am not denying racism exists at all. Geeez. All I am suggesting to Mocha - because everywhere he goes it becomes another post about him being black - is that he might just look at some other perspective in his travels and perhaps incorporate that into his business plan.

 

If you're an accomplished escort and you're traveling to a town, state or city which you already know has no value to your your bottom line - why are you doing it in the first place? This isn't about Ohio. If it were, Mocha would never have gone there in the first place.

 

If Mocha wants to make a "contribution" to society, as you suggest; from what he posts here, he hasn't yet begun. He's just still a victim of it.

[nynakedtop]

Slow down, my friend. I am not denying racism exists at all. Geeez. All I am suggesting to Mocha - because everywhere he goes it becomes another post about him being black...

 

Your rather patronizing tone notwithstanding, may I suggest that it is not for us to tell @Mocha how to negotiate his identity.

[Larstrup]

Your rather patronizing tone notwithstanding, may I suggest that it is not for us to tell @Mocha how to negotiate his identity.

 

You're quite correct. I apologize. He does that quite succinctly himself, without any help from me.

[+ Tarte Gogo]

Lol I read the title only and clicked on it because thought I would get to see beautiful snowy pictures of some Ohio landscapes.

I still don't associate those color names with people.

[AquaNYC]

My family is from Columbus Ohio, and I go back for visits frequently. My perspective is that it is just a random circumstance of who has been advertising or wants to advertise. From my experience, I don't get any sense of an intentional demand for just whites. Also, as a data point my luck on gay "dating" sites for hookups in Columbus seems to have been relatively high (including with blacks), so perhaps that could be a factor. Also, the black men there have been exceptionally attractive (perhaps the draw of the large OSU) (hope that doesn't come across as offensive - no intent on my part to do so, just my opinion...and experience/good fortune ).

[+ pitman]

OK -- so I just looked at the Columbus site. No black men and a higher ratio of versatile / versatile-bottom / bottoms than I've ever seen. If I were a black escort, I'd advertise as a total top and get to Columbus.

 

There is one black escort listed for Columbus with "very" reasonable rates ($10? WTF?)

 

https://rentmen.com/Echilli

 

Also a VERY sexy mixed race dude.

 

https://rentmen.com/SterlingJohnson

[Deadlift1]

Slow down, my friend. I am not denying racism exists at all. Geeez. All I am suggesting to Mocha - because everywhere he goes it becomes another post about him being black - is that he might just look at some other perspective in his travels and perhaps incorporate that into his business plan.

 

If you're an accomplished escort and you're traveling to a town, state or city which you already know has no value to your your bottom line - why are you doing it in the first place? This isn't about Ohio. If it were, Mocha would never have gone there in the first place.

 

If Mocha wants to make a "contribution" to society, as you suggest; from what he posts here, he hasn't yet begun. He's just still a victim of it.

You said it man.

[ChristianCronin]

OK -- so I just looked at the Columbus site. No black men and a higher ratio of versatile / versatile-bottom / bottoms than I've ever seen. If I were a black escort, I'd advertise as a total top and get to Columbus.

 

Hmmmmm.......

 

Here's some information that I am happy to now be privy to.

[Decatur Guy]

@Mocha @Decatur Guy how's the ratio in Atlanta or New Orleans?

 

I've never counted because there are more than 100 escorts. But just look through the listings. It's a wide mix and a significant number of black escorts. A visiting black escort will not stand out from the crowd here like he would in Columbus.

[Mocha]

If you're an accomplished escort and you're traveling to a town, state or city which you already know has no value to your your bottom line - why are you doing it in the first place? This isn't about Ohio. If it were, Mocha would never have gone there in the first place.

 

If Mocha wants to make a "contribution" to society, as you suggest; from what he posts here, he hasn't yet begun. He's just still a victim of it.

 

Ok y'all I'm back. Let me clean things up here before shit gets twisted like a pretzel and assumptions get spread. For the record, I'm not in Columbus right now. I had a great trip to D.C. Area, stopped in Columbus, had a client in Indianapolis and now clear over in a state 2 Great Lakes away now.

 

@Larstrup, let me explain to you. Everywhere I go does not become a post about me being Black, including this one. I'm simply making an observation and questioning/addressing it.

 

As to your question, if I've never worked in a particular market, how the F would I know whether or not it has any value to my bottom line? I don't know until I'm there. I've passed thru Columbus a couple or more years ago and maybe a couple other times. I hadn't stopped, so thought maybe if I have a hotel and host...maybe I can get a chance to work someone in.

 

Why would I go to a city that may have no value? Because maybe I hadn't been there in a few years, maybe I want to test out things going at a different age and pictures and time. I do that all the time. Hell, I used to live in Denver for 5 years...then I stopped going for a year, and then I meet a whole new set of clients. The point you're making sounds good, but it's not reality. Sometimes you just don't know until you try. Sometimes I have to pass through a city to get to another city...and planning ahead and getting a hotel for the night may be worth it.

 

The other thing also is, I wasn't actually "going" to Columbus. It was simply along my route of travel. The hotel was free so there really wasn't any major loss. But just wanted to point out some observations and address it.

[Mocha]

I've never counted because there are more than 100 escorts. But just look through the listings. It's a wide mix and a significant number of black escorts. A visiting black escort will not stand out from the crowd here like he would in Columbus.

 

Atlanta is a hot mess. That's why it's called Hotlanta. Refering in regards to escort work. It's not even worth discussing, but in a nutshell Atlanta exceeds the 25% rule which I've discussed before. It was only just recently after years of passing thru Atlanta, that I had a good trip...but it was only because I had a regular there who I had a special 2 day arrangement with. Otherwise, I never get anything advertising in Atlanta.

 

As for Ohio, I've talked about it before and I got some flack. Maybe I don't understand the North. I'm from Florida originally. In Florida, you can go clear outside the city...and still see racial diversity whether Latino or Black in addition to White. In the north, it seems once you leave the city...the rural and suburbs or more homogenous than homogenized Milk. Even in the mountains of Maryland, which is home to Chocolate City D.C., people looked like I was a freak from outer space.

 

I just don't get Ohio. Never did. I don't know what it is. I don't seem to really get any good reception from it. I had about 4 people show much interest in having a session, all of them couldn't seem to make it. Even when I was accommodating to best ability and had an open schedule and arrived on a Friday afternoon. It seems like certain cities with certain amount or type of Black population have that problem. St. Louis, Indy, Ohio, Chicago, Florida. All require careful screening for me. Not an issue in D.C., Arizona (though it can be), Utah, San Francisco, Wisconsin.

 

BUT...the reason why I make the post is because I wonder if this doesn't happen to the White guys, because of the exclusivity of who's advertising. I checked adam4adam in Columbus and there were like 3 guys all together. Even though it's likely to be filled with black "escorts" and I say that lightly, Backpage numbers doesn't count...that's a hot mess too and can't be bothered.