Payment issues

[+ Tarte Gogo]

It has been noted multiples times (e.g. on the spa thread) that masseurs and escorts never count the cash handed over to them. Even on a first meet.

 

I m not sure if it is because the working guy assesses that the awkwardness of counting money is not worth the small chance that the client can't be trusted, or some other reason (I'd love escorts to comment on that if they want to).

 

In the US, given that all banknotes are the same size, some despicable client could hand over of pile of 12 banknotes: The top one and last one could be $20, while all the other ones hidden beneath could be $1 notes. It would look the same unless you open the pile.

So instead of paying you $240, you'd get $50!

Or some other scam could happen.

 

For an incall, do you check as soon as the client has left, as the door closes, so that you can still catch him in the street? Or it is so unlikely, that you can't be bothered?

 

Obviously for an outcall at the client's place it would not a problem, the client would know that you are going to just go back and make a scene, so he wouldn't even try.

 

Anyone want to share bad experiences?

[Kevin Slater]

For an incall, do you check as soon as the client has left, as the door closes, so that you can still catch him in the street?

 

Yes.

Or it is so unlikely, that you can't be bothered?

 

This too. Every business knows it's going to lose some of its inventory to shoplifting; we are no different. Take prudent steps to minimize the occurrences, but not at the expense of your brand (i.e. counting the cash in front of the customer).

 

Kevin Slater

[misterlobo]

I only do outcalls but I would imagine counting once they leave and if they give you less, giving them the benefit of the doubt and catching them saying, hey you accidentally gave me ones. Or something like that ?

[+ ArVaGuy]

This is a tough situation for the working guys for sure. Damned if you do count the money and potentially cheated if you don't.

 

My practice is to place the envelope in the bed or table, after the session, and ask the guy to count it. Sometimes a guy is reluctant but I insist. This is just to make sure I didn't undercount the bills. Other times I count the bills and place them on the table.

 

Every business has to deal with this issue in one form or another. You might have to account for an acceptable loss percentage as a total of overall revenue.

[MiamiLooker]

It has been noted multiples times (e.g. on the spa thread) that masseurs and escorts never count the cash handed over to them.

Don't believe everything you read.

[desertguy1954]

I do not have problem with the escort counting the money before I leave. Especially if this is the first time we have been together. I could have made a mistake. I now have a money clip that I use. I count out the amount put it in the clip and then for the tip I have it separate. Seems to work for me. Also, to make sure that I have left the right amount I sometimes make a game out of paying. Wrapping it around his dick, putting it in his crack or something that makes us count the money.

[+ Tarte Gogo]

Don't believe everything you read.

 

Ok, do you have a money-counting experience to share that contradicts this?

 

I wrote what you quoted and replied to, because

1. the anonymous people here do not have any good reason to lie, so by default I assume they do not.

2. After having hired 120 different escorts in my lifetime, I can't remember a single time where the escort counted as I was still there, so my own experience matches the consensus.

[Mydavid]

I hope they can count in front of me in case I made a mistake. I never feel embarrassed about that.

[MassageDrew]

I would prefer the escort/masseur count the money in front of me. I'd be more at peace knowing I gave him the correct amount. What I found interesting though is that they wouldn't want me to directly hand it to them. They peefer I put it on the bed or table somewhere. I've only had one experience where the masseur accepted it direct from my hand. I'm still getting used to that.

[+ purplekow]

If I pay in cash, I usually encourage the escort to count it, or I count it in front of him. It is safer for both parties to know that the finances are correct. An unintentional miscount might damage an otherwise great experience.

[Mydavid]

I would prefer the escort/masseur count the money in front of me. I'd be more at peace knowing I gave him the correct amount. What I found interesting though is that they wouldn't want me to directly hand it to them. They peefer I put it on the bed or table somewhere. I've only had one experience where the masseur accepted it direct from my hand. I'm still getting used to that.

+1

[TruHart1]

I may be breaking protocol, but after an escort session, I always take the fee out of my billfold and ask, "The fee agreed on was $500, right?" and then I count it out in front of him if it is our very first session. With my repeat guys I just put the fee on a table or desk and, if I decide to tip, I then put the tip on top of the fee, saying, "Here's a little extra because you were so wonderful!" Then I go into the bathroom and clean up before I leave, discreetly giving the escort time to count and/or pocket his fee so he knows all of it is there. Then I kiss him goodbye and leave. I have never had any sort of problem with this in the six years I've been enjoying this hobby!

 

TruHart1

[+ VictorPowers]

Yes.

 

 

This too. Every business knows it's going to lose some of its inventory to shoplifting; we are no different. Take prudent steps to minimize the occurrences, but not at the expense of your brand (i.e. counting the cash in front of the customer).

 

Kevin Slater

Agreed. I'll be fully dressed and count once they leave. If I'm shorted by a large amount, I'm then prepared to catch them before they are gone. I NEVER count in front of them. I have also never been shorted more than $20, which I attributed to miscounting. On the flip side, I've had clients ask I count to ensure the proper amount is there.

[TennDan99]

I encourage the escort to make sure I counted right. I usually confirm the fee when I hand over the money so I'm sure we are on the same page. I leave it on a nightstand or table in plain sight during our time together. Never had a problem or any difficulty around the payment process.

 

I'm scrupulous about it with new hires because I want the escort to know I'm not planning on pulling any tricks. I guess that puts me at risk for someone to take the money and run but it hasn't happened yet and seems rather unlikely.

[MiamiLooker]

Whenever I pay cash of several bills to an individual, I ask that they count it in front of me. They usually oblige.

[jawjateck]

I have also never been shorted more than $20, which I attributed to miscounting.

 

Mistakes happen even to those of us who are careful about getting it right. Few years back, I had a super fun multi-hour session with a hottie sweetheart. The room was a bit dim when we finished and dressed. I reached into the bedside drawer to retrieve the fee, handed it to him, and asked him to make sure the amount was correct. He just placed it in his pocket. We said our goodbyes, and he left. Later, I looked in the drawer, and yep, there was another 20. I texted him to stop back by and retrieve it at his convenience, but he was "happy" and said "not to worry". Unfortunately, he dropped out of the biz without me scheduling him again and making it up to him.

[KennF]

Here's the way I see it. The decision is made before the appointment, during the vetting process. Either you trust or you don't. If you don't, then you probably should not have accepted the appointment.

 

Counting the money in front of the client, whether intended or not, communicates a lack of trust. It sends a message that the transaction was monetary in nature, and thus, may hurt your brand.

 

The time and effort you put into developing a personal connection, putting the client at ease, companionship, etc... can be undermined.

 

Count it immediately afterward, but every business endures losses. Honest mistakes can happen, but they are relatively few and far between, in my opinion.

[AquaNYC]

This is a tough situation for the working guys for sure. Damned if you do count the money and potentially cheated if you don't.

 

My practice is to place the envelope in the bed or table, after the session, and ask the guy to count it. Sometimes a guy is reluctant but I insist. This is just to make sure I didn't undercount the bills. Other times I count the bills and place them on the table.

 

Every business has to deal with this issue in one form or another. You might have to account for an acceptable loss percentage as a total of overall revenue.

As a client, my practice (for incalls) used to be to put the money in an envelope and have it placed on the nightstand or entrance book stand where it was clearly visible. I found many escorts seemed to be uncomfortable with the envelope and took the money out or waited until I did. Now I typically just wait to the end and ask how much and have them watch me count it directly from my wallet. I thought they would like the more discrete way, but seems most just like it to be handled directly out in the open. Also, I now just go directly to the bank instead of ATM and get hundred dollar bills - so much easier and escort can clearly see the number of bills handed over - and if a great experience, I always round up for the tip:).

[+ quoththeraven]

My preferred method of dealing with payment, particularly as I don't hire for an hour, is cash in an envelope. That's my compromise between the transactional and the fantasy.

 

I can understand feeling miffed if an escort counts his fee in front of a regular, but if it's a first timer, it's a reasonable thing to do. It's a commercial transaction and all the wishing in the world isn't going to change that.

 

If any reminder that money is involved breaks the magic of the experience, then maybe one should stick to unpaid hookups.