STD how do you protect yourself

[barrybt]

A question to all, even if I Try to protect myself, how actually can I protect myself from STD's that can be transmitted by skin to skin, kiss or oral ?

I'm hiring but people scare me off more and more.

Help !

[Good Grief]

https://www.companyofmen.org/threads/warning-to-those-who-hire-please-be-careful.124792/

[barrybt]

https://www.companyofmen.org/threads/warning-to-those-who-hire-please-be-careful.124792/

I read it all and it's not helping, not talking about HIV and using condoms, how can you hire an escort without kissing / playing, nothing can protect you from catching something by doing that, correct ?

[Good Grief]

I read it all and it's not helping, not talking about HIV and using condoms, how can you hire an escort without kissing / playing, nothing can protect you from catching something by doing that, correct ?

 

Much discussion on HSV as related to herpes in addition to HIV.

[big-n-tall]

A question to all, even if I Try to protect myself, how actually can I protect myself from STD's that can be transmitted by skin to skin, kiss or oral ?

I'm hiring but people scare me off more and more.

Help !

 

Sorry to say there is no way to absolutely guard yourself from skin to skin, kissing, or orally transmitted STD's other than abstinence (which is really unrealistic in most cases).

 

There are things to help guard against certain things, like oral std's, with a condom or a dental dam. Skin to skin std's (and other skin to skin transferrable diseases) are only absolutely preventable without physical contact. Again unrealistic, unless maybe if you wear a rubber body suit.

 

If you were in a monogamous relationship and both of you were absolutely not fooling around with other blokes... you could probably avoid std's of any sort (unless one of you had something undetectable (like HPV) before you got together).

 

If you're honestly that paranoid about seeing escorts, maybe you should rethink seeing escorts.

[barrybt]

Sorry to say there is no way to absolutely guard yourself from skin to skin, kissing, or orally transmitted STD's other than abstinence (which is really unrealistic in most cases).

 

There are things to help guard against certain things, like oral std's, with a condom or a dental dam. Skin to skin std's (and other skin to skin transferrable diseases) are only absolutely preventable without physical contact. Again unrealistic, unless maybe if you wear a rubber body suit.

 

If you were in a monogamous relationship and both of you were absolutely not fooling around... you could probably avoid std's of any sort (unless one of you had something undetectable (like HPV) before you got together).

 

If you're honestly that paranoid about seeing escorts, maybe you should rethink seeing escorts.

Any protection against herpes ?

[+ Travis69]

I always wash up with soap and water genitals or butt areas touched by someone else. If someone else touches it, even with their hands, it gets washed. I do it right after sex is over. Not 2 hours later. Also rinse mouth with water a few times. Everyone has different ideas as to what to do. I would talk to a medical professional and get their input.

[big-n-tall]

Any protection against herpes ?

 

Well HPV and HSV, cold sores... whatever various form of Herpes, you can do as @Travis69 suggested, which may help. If someone has a clearly visible cold soar don't kiss them. One thing also to remember is that most people in the US at least has some form of herpes. Hell you may already have some form of it and not know it (not to scare you further).

 

I have read if you gargle with a strong mouth wash after kissing and regularly, it can help prevent certain std's that can thrive in the throat.

[barrybt]

Well HPV and HSV, cold soares... whatever various form of Herpes, you can do as @Travis69 suggested, which may help. If someone has a clearly visible cold soar don't kiss them. One thing also to remember is that most people in the US at least has some form of herpes. Hell you may already have some form of it and not know it (not to scare you further).

 

I have read if you gargle with a strong mouth wash after kissing and regularly, it can help prevent certain std's that can thrive in the throat.

Thanks so much, I was 2 years worry free until a recent scare.

[+ José Soplanucas]

I read it all and it's not helping, not talking about HIV and using condoms, how can you hire an escort without kissing / playing, nothing can protect you from catching something by doing that, correct ?

 

Why are you targeting the providers? You are taking a risk with anyone. Even your relatives. Lets stop kissing and touching our parents, siblings, children, and partners.

[barrybt]

Why are you targeting the providers? You are taking a risk with anyone. Even your relatives. Lets stop kissing and touching our parents, siblings, children, and partners.

Common, providers are in touch with so many people, so many unsafe contacts.

[Guy Fawkes]

On the lighter side:

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7YFC0O393DQ

 

Or become a monk:

 

[+ Travis69]

Common, providers are in touch with so many people, so many unsafe contacts.

In my MANY years of experience with escorts and non paid hookups the escorts are MUCH more careful about safe sex and making sure to wash up after sex then the non paid hook ups..

[barrybt]

In my MANY years of experience with escorts and non paid hookups the escorts are MUCH more careful about safe sex and making sure to wash up after sex then the non paid hook ups..

Your point make sense.

[Maximus69]

Heres what I do... I get tested every 2-3 months, I don't hookup with guys from those sex apps, I just have sex with clients. No offense but I have said before I feel much safer hooking up with clients. And I use condoms. I have never fucked raw and I never will. I know theirs prep out there but anyone can just say they are on prep when they are not. You can't be scared and obviously not have sex ever in your life, even if you aren't an escort, but you can't worry about other people, worry about yourself, use protection whether it be wearing condoms or YOU going on prep.

[adventurous old guy]

In my MANY years of experience with escorts and non paid hookups the escorts are MUCH more careful about safe sex and making sure to wash up after sex then the non paid hook ups..

I would have agreed with Travis 4 or 5 years ago, but don't think this is true anymore. Or maybe just not as true. I see Dominiking's post here, but its not what I've experienced. There's been a huge shift towards escorts having unprotected sex because of PrEP. I hire only guys who bottom, and its rare now when I'm asked to use a condom. When I say its a rule for me, I'm much more likely to get an assurance not to worry because "I'm on PrEP." I guess one could argue that the concept of safe sex has shifted, that PrEP is the new safe sex. But I'm not convinced yet, nor do I want to go on it to protect myself. So its old school for me -- condoms every time.

 

Re washing and personal hygiene, agreed, I haven't seen a shift there and do believe escorts pay more attention to that than most.

 

Whether or not it cuts risk medically, I do thoroughly wash and gargle ASAP after a date.

[LaffingBear]

You cant go through life worrying about everything.

If you're honestly that paranoid about seeing escorts, maybe you should rethink seeing escorts.

+1

[+ José Soplanucas]

Common, providers are in touch with so many people, so many unsafe contacts.

A for free hook up could be even more promiscuous than a professional.

[+ sniper]

Truth is while nobody WANTS herpes, in many cases it's not actually that big a deal. I have a friend who only found out he had oral herpes through a blood test because he never had an outbreak. He doesn't really get around much at all and has no idea where he got it. He could have gotten it from a kiss from a family member for all he knows.

[+ José Soplanucas]

Other than keeping the light on to see any red flag signal, there is nothing we can do. Relax and enjoy it.

[MikeyGMin]

You cant go through life worrying about everything.

I would go as far as to say that some people's fear of every form of sexual contact borders on being some kind of anxiety disorder.

 

I often wonder if the same people (not trying to single out the OP because we get a lot of these kind of threads) drive cars and accept the inherent risk involved there without anxiety. Risk versus reward. You wear your seatbelt and go about your daily business.

 

I'm going to continue to be very oral in my life because the rewards far outweigh the risks. Especially when you're talking about kissing.

[+ José Soplanucas]

I would go as far as to say that some people's fear of every form of sexual contact borders on being some kind of anxiety disorder.

 

I often wonder if the same people (not trying to single out the OP because we get a lot of these kind of threads) drive cars and accept the inherent risk involved there without anxiety. Risk versus reward. You wear your seatbelt and go about your daily business.

 

I'm going to continue to be very oral in my life because the rewards far outweigh the risks. Especially when you're talking about kissing.

 

I would kiss you right now.

[LookingAround]

I read it all and it's not helping, not talking about HIV and using condoms, how can you hire an escort without kissing / playing, nothing can protect you from catching something by doing that, correct ?

Sometimes your fears can't be overcome. In this case no sex for you so you have no risk.

[mike carey]

I often wonder if the same people ... drive cars and accept the inherent risk involved there without anxiety.

There's a lot of discussion lately about relative risks and people's response to them. Think terrorist attack vs fridge falling on you. The latter is the higher risk. I think people are more likely to accept a risk if they understand it and think they have a good chance of avoiding it. I think I am safe from falling fridges. With driving, you think you are in control. Occasionally some idiot will cross the centre line and head-on you, but that's not the foremost risk in our minds when we are on the road. And flying, where we don't have any personal control has a far lower risk than driving but people are far more anxious about it. There was a spike in road fatalities in the US after 9/11 (as I recall) when nothing was in the air. With sexual health, no matter what you do, it all depends on the other person to some extent and people are frightened by that element that they can't control.

[+ BenjaminNicholas]

The safest sex is no sex. How fun, right?

 

Calculated risk is a part of everyday we live: Figure out how much risk you're willing to take and go from there. My main concern in all talk of STDs and male sex workers is honesty and being up-front about existing problems.

 

If you have an issue, don't spread it. Refrain from working, see a doctor, have a gameplan and get healthy. Money doesn't trump being a decent human being.