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José Soplanucas Grand Master

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While it may heighten curiosity in some clients, I suspect the number of clients whose curiosity is hightened, is negatively offset and diminished taking into account clients who post to this forum stating that they skip over and do not respond to "ask me" ads.

 

I realize there are posters on this forum who wrote it is a simple matter of asking an escort prices for his services. I can understand that philosophy (asking) even though I do not agree with it.

 

Although it this is only a similar analogy, I must say, if I went to eat at a restaurant and looked for a menu with prices and food offered, and there was no menu or price list, and, if the waiter said to me, "ask me" I would leave and not return.

 

One thing that puzzles me is why escorts do not realize they lose a lot of business when their ad is an "ask me" ad. Many posts to this forum confirm that client skip over "ask me" ads.

 

To quote a famous monk and poet, John Lydgate, "“You can satisfy some of the people all the time, and all of the people some of the time, but you cannot satisfy all of the people all the time”

 

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Of course, my friend, the bottom line is a matter of preferences. If you do not like to ask and to discuss the things, there is no point on debating, I would not change your mind.

 

I just want to point out that your restaurant analogy is completely misguiding. You are comparing a legal, regulated business with our informal industry. When I go to a place where weed is legal, I expect the menu and the prices as in your restaurant example. But when I get my weed in the informal market, a lot of things are open for conversation.

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coriolis888 Grand Master

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I just want to point out that your restaurant analogy is completely misguiding. You are comparing a legal, regulated business with our informal industry. When I go to a place where weed is legal, I expect the menu and the prices as in your restaurant example. But when I get my weed in the informal market, a lot of things are open for conversation.

 

 

In my post, I wrote "Although it is only a similar analogy" which at this point does seem too simple.

 

You are correct, a restaurant (legal activity) cannot genuinely be compared to a service that is illegal.

 

Notwithstanding my simple or weak analogy, I do not think that anyone here in this forum will likely change course on whether or not they respond to "ask me" ads.

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I certainly prefer an ad to give me the info I need to decide if I should contact a guy, but if his ad otherwise appeals, and he's well-reviewed, I'll ask about rates and position. I only contact escorts who say safe only, and I don't care about orientation as long as I have some client feedback to let me know if he's good at what he does. Given my own background, an escort saying he's straight, bi, or gay doesn't really matter to me as long as he's willing and able to provide what I want.

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With all respect, it is easy to avoid a discussion but arguing "it is my opinion". The fact remains: if a provider says "ask me", you do not know the answer until you do ask him. However, you shared what you think the answers would be. There is no way you know if you did not ask. Therefore, whether or not you like it and wether or not you are willing to accept it, you are projecting your fears, your phobias, and your fantasies. Needless to say, you are in your right to do that.

 

So, to follow your logic if a guy doesn't post pics I'm projecting fears, phobias and fantasies if I don't care to ask him what he looks like? You're making a very dumb and narrow assumption, with no respect. You're right that I don't know the answer until I ask him. In my case the fact that he's made me ask him when he could have and should have provided that information offends me. It has nothing to do with fear. If I don't care to follow up with a guy who isn't forthcoming with basic information it's because I'm not interested in following up with a guy who isn't forthcoming with basic information. Fear and fantasies have nothing to do with it.

 

It's easy to provoke a discussion because you assume that there's only one way to think, and if you choose to ascribe your values to others.

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"Ask me" is code for "I'm not really interested in seeing anybody, but just having fun testing the waters on my own dime." This also applies to market rate lobster in fancy restaurants. "I'm not really planning on being eaten, since I really enjoy being stared at in this cozy tank with my claws taped shut!"

 

But what lobster have you ever known to set his own market price to be eaten? Are they becoming more involved in restaurant management now? :rolleyes:

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I though I was the one open to overcome labels and open to have a conversation.

 

Sure, as long as I can accept the binary thinking you're applying to human nature. If I can't accept that the only possible reason to reject an ad with incomplete information is fear, then I must be wrong. That's not a conversation. Twice I've tried to present another point of view, and you've replied with "nope, mine's the only one."

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José Soplanucas Grand Master

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Sure, as long as I can accept the binary thinking you're applying to human nature. If I can't accept that the only possible reason to reject an ad with incomplete information is fear, then I must be wrong. That's not a conversation. Twice I've tried to present another point of view, and you've replied with "nope, mine's the only one."

 

I see your point. However the one trapped in a binary reality is you. I am not posing this problem in terms of right or wrong, you are.

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coriolis888 Grand Master

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Correct me if I'm wrong, but don't the most high end restaurants show their menu without prices? You need to ask if you select the choices menu items.

 

 

Most?

 

If you mean restaurants like Spago's in Beverly Hills or Marchi's in Manhattan, it is true, there is no individual menu item prices.

 

In addition to the two restaurants named above, there is a sprinkling of other expensive restaurants located throughout the U.S. (and elsewhere) that do not show individual menu item prices.

 

More common is the fact that some expensive restaurants show a menu item but will show the price rounded to an even number such as 60 meaning $60.00, for example. This way of showing a price (rounded) is a marketing tool and is supposed to add some elegance to the restaurant experience. I always missed the elegant feeling seeing a menu with rounded numbers. I am more impressed with the quality of the food and restaurant service.

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Most?

 

If you mean restaurants like Spago's in Beverly Hills or Marchi's in Manhattan, it is true, there is no individual menu item prices.

 

In addition to the two restaurants named above, there is a sprinkling of other expensive restaurants located throughout the U.S. (and elsewhere) that do not show individual menu item prices.

 

More common is the fact that some expensive restaurants show a menu item but will show the price rounded to an even number such as 60 meaning $60.00, for example. This way of showing a price (rounded) is a marketing tool and is supposed to add some elegance to the restaurant experience. I always missed the elegant feeling seeing a menu with rounded numbers. I am more impressed with the quality of the food and restaurant service.

Thanks for proving my point with a dearth of examples. I'm not sure why you felt the proof was necessary but I always appreciate it when someone recognizes it.

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Its a catch 22 - it either does not interest you enough to pursue, or if you start a conversation - you get labelled as a time waster

 

My $$ in this market is valuable to me, therefore when I hire I want to know that I am getting what I pay for - which is a really good time, and being treated like a valued client.

 

Personally the idea of sucking on a dick that has been inside a female - turns me off - so bi adds really lose me.

 

I can also see that the less explicit you are - the more of the market you are open to.

 

So if someone says they like kink for instance - does that mean all the guys who want vanilla will pass - when a good kinkster will most likely be awesome at vanilla too.

 

As I said catch 22 one size does not fit all

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Most?

 

If you mean restaurants like Spago's in Beverly Hills or Marchi's in Manhattan, it is true, there is no individual menu item prices.

 

In addition to the two restaurants named above, there is a sprinkling of other expensive restaurants located throughout the U.S. (and elsewhere) that do not show individual menu item prices.

 

More common is the fact that some expensive restaurants show a menu item but will show the price rounded to an even number such as 60 meaning $60.00, for example. This way of showing a price (rounded) is a marketing tool and is supposed to add some elegance to the restaurant experience. I always missed the elegant feeling seeing a menu with rounded numbers. I am more impressed with the quality of the food and restaurant service.

 

A really good upmarket restaurant used to have two types of menus, one for the host who is paying the bill - the other for the guests who do not know the price of what they are ordering.

 

Two ways of looking at this - the host may select what the guests eat - or the host guides the guests - but in any case the host should be in a position to pay the bill at any cost

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coriolis888 Grand Master

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Its a catch 22 - it either does not interest you enough to pursue, or if you start a conversation - you get labelled as a time waster

 

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As I said catch 22 one size does not fit all

 

 

So true. The above bolded quote is another reason I avoid "ask me" ads.

 

Having to "ask" an escort a question begins a two-way diolgue. If it turns out (after contacting the escort) a client is not interested in the escort or if the price is outlandish in the opinion of the client, the escort labels the client a time waster.

 

And the beat goes on and on - - - - - - - - - -

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I see your point. However the one trapped in a binary reality is you. I am not posing this problem in terms of right or wrong, you are.

 

Sure you are. You presented the idea that people who avoid "ask me" responses are doing so out of fear, phobias, and fantasies. I proposed that there is another way of looking at it. You tried to shut that down twice. I'm not saying that my position is the only position, just that yours doesn't work for everyone. You're putting a veneer of objective reason over the fact that you don't want to accept any position other than your own.

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José Soplanucas Grand Master

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Sure you are. You presented the idea that people who avoid "ask me" responses are doing so out of fear, phobias, and fantasies. I proposed that there is another way of looking at it. You tried to shut that down twice. I'm not saying that my position is the only position, just that yours doesn't work for everyone. You're putting a veneer of objective reason over the fact that you don't want to accept any position other than your own.

 

I am not playing ping pong anymore. you have the ball.

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