Overnight and Travel questions

[AlexThomas]

Hey guys couple more questions since im a bit new and i do like getting fresh opinions.

 

How long do your overnight appointments last? Do you have or expect a set time to arrive and leave? Ive had a few questions about doing an overnight but as of yet I havent made a solid appointment whether it be no availibility or I just never hear back from the client.

 

My second question is travel expenses. I've had a few offer to buy plane tickets for me or send me the money to buy it myself. How do you guys handle these situations, either as a escort or client? Do you direct deposit into a seperate account? Or do you have something like paypal setup to recieve funds early or travel funds?

 

Ive only encountered this once so far and when I got asked for all of my account information I freaked out a bit and figured it was a scam. Any help with either of these questions is very helpful and I thank you in advanced.

[big-n-tall]

I think the average overnight is considered to be about 12 hours. You have some escorts who do 6 and some 8. Sometimes it also depends on the relationship the working guy has with the client. The guys I've done overnights with, on a regular basis, tend to want to stay longer or want me to stay longer (than the standard 12 hours) without added cost.

 

I usually meet up around 5 to 7pm and tend to head out by 7 or 8am the next day. Unless, of course, I know the guy well. Sometimes I stay right up until lunch time or just after. Some people also do morning meet ups. They meet early, stay together for 12 (same rate as an overnight), and part company in the evening. You have clients who hate the sleeping aspect of overnights and rather spend time during the day doing other things with the working guy (besides bedroom activities).

 

Travel expenses really depends on your trust and comfortability. I have made all types of arrangements with different guys... from buying the tickets ahead of time, sending money (but only with guys I trust after being burned by a well known escort), to reimbursing and adding the fee to the overnight rate, and on the rare occasion, not having to pay for travel at all (because the guy is already visiting or the guy truly enjoys my company so he won't charge me for travel). You could do cash transfer through PayPal or Venmo if you went the send money for travel route.

 

I hope that helps.

[jawjateck]

I think the average overnight is considered to be about 8 hours.

That's not even the average amount of sleep that my overnighters have racked up over the past 5-6 years. HA!

[jawjateck]

I wouldn't give a second thought to anything under 12, and most of my overnighters are in the 14-15 hour range.

[Epigonos]

I'm pretty much aligned with jawjateck on this one (14-15 hour range). I'm currently set up for an overnight where the escort is planning to arrive, at my hotel, around 6:30 p.m. We will shower, change cloths and then go out for a nice relaxing dinner. I imagine we will return to the room around 9:00 p.m. and let the fun begin. We will have breakfast at the hotel around 8:30 a.m. or 9:00 a.m. the following morning and then depart.

[big-n-tall]

That's not even the average amount of sleep that my overnighters have racked up over the past 5-6 years. HA!

 

 

You're right. My mistake. I meant 12, not 8 as the standard. I never said I was good at telling time.

 

Post amended.

[big-n-tall]

I wouldn't give a second thought to anything under 12, and most of my overnighters are in the 14-15 hour range.

 

I'm pretty much aligned with jawjateck on this one (14-15 hour range).

 

Clearly I need to improve my negotiating skills. LOL!!!

[AlexThomas]

Thank you very much for your opinions, sounds like 12-14 hours is the way to go. Allows for 8 hours of sleep and enough time for any other activities that may be requested.

 

The travel expenses and pay ahead is a difficult one for me still. How does pay pal and venmo work?

[big-n-tall]

Thank you very much for your opinions, sounds like 12-14 hours is the way to go. Allows for 8 hours of sleep and enough time for any other activities that may be requested.

 

The travel expenses and pay ahead is a difficult one for me still. How does pay pal and venmo work?

 

Paypal: is an online payment system that supports online money transfers and serves as an electronic alternative to traditional paper methods like checks and money orders.

Venmo: is a mobile payment service owned by PayPal. It allows users to transfer money between one another using a mobile phone app or web interface.

 

There are other similar monetary exchange systems, but the two above seem to be the most popular.

 

You associate both your paypal and venmo accounts to your bank account. If you have a paypal account and the client has a paypal account he can send money to which ever email you have linked to that paypal account. Venmo is similar but as stated above geared more to transactions through mobile. Of the two, paypal seems to be stricter about its service. You have to be careful all association to certain illegal or explicit activities are not mentioned or alluded to.

 

Both systems have pro and cons.

[ncc1701d]

While we are sort of on the subject, and since I see both Jawjateck and Epigonos, 2 wise and experienced posters are chiming in and whose opinion I care about ;-)

 

My one experience with overnight is about the same, though the guy was someone I knew and like, and he was waiting to check into his hotel, so he stayed till lunch time voluntarily and I was free and enjoyed the company, so I bought him lunch too. But my "dislike" for overnight is that if you start at 6pm, 14 hours later is 8am, so if you want fun in the morning you pretty much need to get up early, clean up and hope your guy is a morning person! So for me it's far better to do a whole day, which is usually not much more than overnight in terms of rates, and you have way more time.

 

So to the wise and experienced ones....do you do more overnights vs day, or the other way around?

 

Sorry for the long post!

[Epigonos]

ncc1701d thanks for the kind words although I'm not all together sure how deserved they are in my case.

I have never done an whole day time appointment with an escort and as a rule, which I'm about to break, I do overnights only with escorts I know well. The one escort with whom I have spent many overnights is NOT a morning person while I am. When we travel together I get up early and make coffee and read until he stumbles out attracted by the smell of the coffee. Only after one and possibly two pots of coffee is he ready to face the world. Now this system works great for us because we spend several day together at a time in a condo but it would not necessarily work on a single overnight in a hotel room.

My best recommendation is be VERY upfront with the escort regarding your morning expectations. As in all aspects of escort hiring COMMUNICATION is the key word. If the guy isn't a morning person then you might want to consider looking elsewhere or adjusting you schedule to meet his.

Good luck and damn isn't this hobby of ours great fun!

[jawjateck]

Because of the increasing quirkiness of my sleep patterns (e.g. light sleeper averaging 6 or 7 hours-ish) and because companions seem to be more inclined to catch up on their rest with me (e.g. sleep 9 or more hours), I am opting for more afternoon appointments (4-6 hours) with lunch or dindin as appropriate. These meetings usually include as much fun as the overnighters, and are often less costly. WIN WIN!

 

Obviously, that works when I'm in the same city as the companion I desire. If a flight is involved, an overnight will usually be the result, although I have flown to a city, spent the day with a companion, and caught the last flight home at night. Those arrangements can work too, as long as the flight is 2 hour-ish or less.

[ncc1701d]

Because of the increasing quirkiness of my sleep patterns (e.g. light sleeper averaging 6 or 7 hours-ish) and because companions seem to be more inclined to catch up on their rest with me (e.g. sleep 9 or more hours), I am opting for more afternoon appointments (4-6 hours) with lunch or dindin as appropriate. These meetings usually include as much fun as the overnighters, and are often less costly. WIN WIN!

 

Obviously, that works when I'm in the same city as the companion I desire. If a flight is involved, an overnight will usually be the result, although I have flown to a city, spent the day with a companion, and caught the last flight home at night. Those arrangements can work too, as long as the flight is 2 hour-ish or less.

Jawjatack

I'm able to do an afternoon appointment just as you described as my original proposal of evening (fun, dinner dessert fun) wasn't going to work time-wise. Any advice on how you usually divide the afternoon (5-6 hours is the plan) activities ? ;-)

[AlexThomas]

Thanks everyone that has voiced their opinions so far. It is really helpful and will be a great asset as I move into doing this different scenarios!!

[LADoug1]

I know this has been discussed many times but I still don't understand how a client can pay for an escort's airfare when the escort doesn't want his personal information i.e. name known.

[jawjateck]

I know this has been discussed many times but I still don't understand how a client can pay for an escort's airfare when the escort doesn't want his personal information i.e. name known.

 

It makes as much sense as newbie providers booking their own flight to me, for a first time meeting, hoping that I will keep my word and reimburse them when we meet. And yes, that has happened more than once, and I let 'em do it. I paid their fee and fare when we met, and I also cautioned them against such a practice.

 

Fear, greed, lust, or any combo of the 3, leads us to do some weird things.

[jawjateck]

Jawjatack

I'm able to do an afternoon appointment just as you described as my original proposal of evening (fun, dinner dessert fun) wasn't going to work time-wise. Any advice on how you usually divide the afternoon (5-6 hours is the plan) activities ? ;-)

 

I like to get to some heated, sweaty action early in the appointment, then take a mid-appt break for food, or really go at it for hours, and grab dindin afterward to recharge our bodies.

 

I don't like to start an appointment with a meal. The fullness makes it tougher to swing into action. And my rule of thumb: the longer it takes to get naked, the less successful the meeting will be.

 

Hope you have a blast....or 2 or 3!

[+ BigRic]

I know this has been discussed many times but I still don't understand how a client can pay for an escort's airfare when the escort doesn't want his personal information i.e. name known.

 

Interested in any links to prior/other threads in which this has been discussed, @LADoug1.

 

I'm not 100% sure I understand the "how" of your question: I'm assuming you understand the practical process by which the pre-payment would happen (the client just PayPals airfare to the escort in advance), so is "how" more along the lines of "how could you?" (as in, why would a client do such a thing?).

 

A far more-traveled (literally) escort than me was kind enough to send me some lengthy advice about travel a while back (thanks, @Chris Eisenhower). He advised against ever stepping on a plane unless your travel is already paid for. I use Hotwire a lot. I give a client the airfare amount (including the flight numbers for reference if need be) and request that amount be PayPal'd to me to confirm our time together. Am I missing something with regards to your question?

 

And welcome to the forum, @AlexThomas. I recommend reconciling input from experienced clients with input from (more) experienced escorts (than me).

 

For instance regarding overnights, different "types" of escorts are going to delimit/define overnights differently. Although this may not apply for you (no disrespect intended), I'm thinking of muscle guys with demanding fitness regimens and sleep/meals needs. The very discipline that produced the muscle some clients covet is exactly what some clients are (tacitly) asking an escort to at least put on pause with some of their overnight requests/expectations. Kerry Slate has given me some pointers in these regards. IMO Vin Marco is a good dude to emulate in terms of how to structure overnights and attract clients commensurate with your lifestyle. I know another crazy popular muscle guy escort (whom my fondness of is no secret) who limits overnights to 12 hours, six of which are sleep time, with a separate bed available. (Client requests for) drug use is also an issue.

 

Good luck--you're in the right place. But this subforum is called "Ask An Escort" for many reasons.

[+ BigRic]

Postscript:

 

Ive only encountered this once so far and when I got asked for all of my account information I freaked out a bit and figured it was a scam.

 

Yes, likely scam. Any savvy client knows that they don't need "account information" in order to send you money and that even new-ish escorts can likely be sent dinero via their advertised phone number/e-mail address. If he didn't ask about PayPal before asking for your "account information," he was perhaps preying on your newness.

[Epigonos]

This thread has segued into areas almost beyond my comprehension. Thus please accept my apology for this too long and too convoluted epistle.

 

1. I would NEVER arrange an overnight with an escort with whom I had not already spent time. I’m about to break that rule for the first time in fourteen years of hiring but the escort’s overnight rate is so reasonable that if things don’t work out I can send him home with his fee and not be out all that much money.

 

2. I would NEVER send an escort; I didn’t know well, money to pay for his ticket to fly to me. If we knew each other well he shouldn’t be concerned regarding my not paying him.

 

3. In the past when I have wanted to get together with an out of town escort I have flown to him rather than fly him to me. I certainly realize that some clients do not have the freedom to exercise this option.

 

4. I have never seen the great attraction of overnights unless I am traveling with the escort for a weekend or more. I’m 76 years old and have slept alone all of my life and the last thing I want to do is snuggle up to somebody while I “try” to sleep. I would literally burn up. On the rare occasions that I have spent a single overnight with an escort I have ALWAYS arranged for a room with a king or two queen beds Thus when the time to sleep arrives we can each move to our own side of the bed or we each have our own bed.

 

5. If I travel out of town to meet an escort I usually prefer two back to back evening get togethers. Each evening we have dinner and they play around back at my hotel for a couple of hours. These two evening usually cost approximately the same as an overnight .

 

6. I sincerely believe that absolute anonymity for an escort or a client is an absurd pipe dream. I someone wants to find out somebody’s name in this day and age they have all the tools to do so. I have said MANY times in the past and I will say again that if one’s life would be destroy if what one is doing in private is made public one should NOT be doing it. Both escorts and clients MUST always accept the fact that exposure is a possibility.

 

7. If the fact that I hire escort was made public, at this point in my life, it might cause me some embarrassment but it would certainly NOT destroy my life. With this in mind I am not particularly careful about letting an escort know my real name from the get go.

[ncc1701d]

I like to get to some heated, sweaty action early in the appointment, then take a mid-appt break for food, or really go at it for hours, and grab dindin afterward to recharge our bodies.

 

I don't like to start an appointment with a meal. The fullness makes it tougher to swing into action. And my rule of thumb: the longer it takes to get naked, the less successful the meeting will be.

 

Hope you have a blast....or 2 or 3!

 

I'll let you know ;-) THanks.

[+ GregM]

Hey guys couple more questions since im a bit new and i do like getting fresh opinions.

 

How long do your overnight appointments last? Do you have or expect a set time to arrive and leave? Ive had a few questions about doing an overnight but as of yet I havent made a solid appointment whether it be no availibility or I just never hear back from the client.

 

My second question is travel expenses. I've had a few offer to buy plane tickets for me or send me the money to buy it myself. How do you guys handle these situations, either as a escort or client? Do you direct deposit into a seperate account? Or do you have something like paypal setup to recieve funds early or travel funds?

 

Ive only encountered this once so far and when I got asked for all of my account information I freaked out a bit and figured it was a scam. Any help with either of these questions is very helpful and I thank you in advanced.

 

For me when I have done over nights it has been about 12 hours. Depending on flights and such it has ran longer by a few hours and I am A-OK with that. As for plane tickets I have no issue with giving my name and birth date. I've gathered that most clients prefer to book the escorts plane ticket because they often use miles or don't feel comfortable sending cash for a plane ticket and then getting stood up.

 

Hugs,

Greg

[big-n-tall]

For me when I have done over nights it has been about 12 hours. Depending on flights and such it has ran longer by a few hours and I am A-OK with that. As for plane tickets I have no issue with giving my name and birth date. I've gathered that most clients prefer to book the escorts plane ticket because they often use miles or don't feel comfortable sending cash for a plane ticket and then getting stood up.

 

Hugs,

Greg

 

Welcome back!

[+ Keith30309]

For me when I have done over nights it has been about 12 hours. Depending on flights and such it has ran longer by a few hours and I am A-OK with that. As for plane tickets I have no issue with giving my name and birth date. I've gathered that most clients prefer to book the escorts plane ticket because they often use miles or don't feel comfortable sending cash for a plane ticket and then getting stood up.

 

Hugs,

Greg

Oh wow! Yes, Welcome Back indeed!

[LADoug1]

Does some of the travel time (if substantial) ever count towards the hours booked?