Slow going in Las Vegas

[aericlv]

Hi, I'm a nice looking mature straight top who has been freelancing in las vegas on and off a couple years. I have profiles posted on a couple online sites. One has had almost 1700 views in the last week or so but only 2 calls for appointments. Can anyone help me get established in this Las Vegas Market? I'm recreating the wheel and not very well. Thanks

[dcguy20]

What sites is your ad located on?

[aericlv]

What sites is your ad located on?

hourboy isnt working for me, my profile seems to have disappeared, but i'm on https://rentmen.com/aericlv and http://upv.men4rentnow.com/gay/escort/male/massage/las_vegas/aericlv/280419.

[BaronArtz]

You seem like an attractive guy and I hope you will do well. I will just say 3 things:

 

1. I don't know Vegas, but I hear from escort friends that Los Angeles, your adjacent market, is as dead as a nail. Guys are just not hiring. The economy? Too much 'free' sex available through social media? Who knows.

 

2. Your out rate at 100 really seems too good to be true. You are pricing yourself at the very low end. To me, that would almost be a red flag. Why is he pricing himself so low? There must be a problem somewhere, is what I would think.

 

3. You list your age at 5o. You look attractive, but understand that '5O' and '5O+' is, by definition, a more limited market.

 

Wish you all the best.

[aericlv]

You seem like an attractive guy and I hope you will do well. I will just say 3 things:

 

1. I don't know Vegas, but I hear from escort friends that Los Angeles, your adjacent market, is as dead as a nail. Guys are just not hiring. The economy? Too much 'free' sex available through social media? Who knows.

 

2. Your out rate at 100 really seems too good to be true. You are pricing yourself at the very low end. To me, that would almost be a red flag. Why is he pricing himself so low? There must be a problem somewhere, is what I would think.

 

3. You list your age at 5o. You look attractive, but understand that '5O' and '5O+' is, by definition, a more limited market.

 

Wish you all the best.

 

Thanks for the response i was trying to make the rate attractive and be honest with my age even though I look a lot younger. I will make some adjustments and see if that creates any interest. Thank you very much.

[BaronArtz]

Thanks for the response i was trying to make the rate attractive and be honest with my age even though I look a lot younger. I will make some adjustments and see if that creates any interest. Thank you very much.

 

You are welcome.

 

Change your age to 4O. Look at what other late 3O or 4O-something escorts in Las Vegas are charging, and price yourself accordingly. It may help.

 

Opinions on this may vary, but re-think labelling yourself as 'straight', as you are doing now. Some clients will absolutely not hire 'straight'. In your interview, you mention your family and loved ones. I respect that very much, but isn't that a bit too much information? We as clients are paying for an illusion. You are putting on a performance. I suggest changing it to 'bi'. And keep your family out if it, until you have regular clients who really bond with you and want to know you on a personal level.

 

Again, best of luck.

[aericlv]

You are welcome.

 

Change your age to 4O. Look at what other late 3O or 4O-something escorts in Las Vegas are charging, and price yourself accordingly. It may help.

 

Opinions on this may vary, but re-think labelling yourself as 'straight', as you are doing now. Some clients will absolutely not hire 'straight'. In your interview, you mention your family and loved ones. I respect that very much, but isn't that a bit too much information? We as clients are paying for an illusion. You are putting on a performance. I suggest changing it to 'bi'. And keep your family out if it, until you have regular clients who really bond with you and want to know you on a personal level.

 

Again, best of luck.

thanks again, that's me trying to figure this out by myself. I'm making all the changes now and will hope for the best.

[MiamiLooker]

Pictures showing the guy wearing a cockring make me wonder if the guy has issues getting an erection without one.

[Edward]

I for one rarely hire straight guys. And I have hired a number of guys in LV.

[aericlv]

Pictures showing the guy wearing a cockring make me wonder if the guy has issues getting an erection without one.

Thanks, No problem with erections, I just like to wear cockrings like all the time. Thanks for the in put. I will take more images without the cockrings.

[aericlv]

I for one rarely hire straight guys. And I have hired a number of guys in LV.

It's kind of silly on my part. I'm just not sure what is an attractive label. I'm definitely Bi I Love to give and receive oral and anal so It's just a matter of me getting the words right to describe myself. thanks.

[+ nycman]

Wait....so you went from being a 50 year old "straight" guy...

to a 37 year old "bisexual"...and you rate went from $100 to $200?

 

I'm not sure you're getting great advice here. Maybe from a pure

"take the money and run" perspective...yes.

 

But from a professional escort prospective?...yeah no.

 

Lying about your age and sexual orientation is never a good idea in my book.

Truth is...as hard as it is to hear....there is very little (if any) market for a

50 year old escort (and that's coming from a John who likes "older" escorts).

 

After 40 it's a "niche" market...at best.

 

If you can make it work...more power to you!

 

If you need to lie to make a buck....I'm not on your team anymore.

[Meo]

Looking at your pics aericlv, WOW! "Nice looking" and "attractive" are understatements! In terms of stats like age, weight, etc, I tend to think in terms of an actor casting sheet, go with what you think you can pass for but don't overdo it and expect the market to respond if you do. You definitely look young and very fit. I like all the things you have said here and you might want to put some more of this in your ads, also some of your interview content in your ad. Especially position--if you like to give and receive you seem truly versatile and your luscious bubble butt will attract tops! Do you kiss or like BFE? Roleplay? Wrestle? You have great pics and describing what they symbolize could be great. Keep adding to your interview as new thoughts and ideas come to you--the interviews are always fun to read when updated. I get to Vegas a few times a year and I definitely like what you have here--good luck!

[Guy Fawkes]

Take Ace out to lunch when he's in town.

 

While "Straight" and "Versatile" work for me; It raises questions in my mind.

 

You need to take your pictures to the next level: Lighting problems, Focus problems, Hiding from the Camera problems. Remember that you're not selling you mouth, ass, or dick. You selling You. Who's going to show up at the door, be on my arm when we go out, and perhaps who would be next to the pool drinking in the sun, or out frolicking at Red Rock Canyon. A tape measure next to your junk turns me off, I gave that up in high school.

 

No excuses about it "Costs too much," anybody with a recent generation camera can get it done. Here's how: Find one or more "Fun" places and take literally a couple hundred photos. Toss out all but the best dozen; cut that down to the awesome six. Didn't get enough? Do it again; It takes practice. Rinse and repeat every 90 days.

 

Work on your copy; What the photo's don't drag in, you words need to. They're also be what'll get them to pick up the phone.

 

Las Vegas is a hard market; So your marketing has to be good.

 

See the first sentence.

 

Hi, I'm a nice looking mature straight top who has been freelancing in las vegas on and off a couple years. I have profiles posted on a couple online sites. One has had almost 1700 views in the last week or so but only 2 calls for appointments. Can anyone help me get established in this Las Vegas Market? I'm recreating the wheel and not very well. Thanks

[aericlv]

Take Ace out to lunch when he's in town.

 

While "Straight" and "Versatile" work for me; It raises questions in my mind.

 

You need to take your pictures to the next level: Lighting problems, Focus problems, Hiding from the Camera problems. Remember that you're not selling you mouth, ass, or dick. You selling You. Who's going to show up at the door, be on my arm when we go out, and perhaps who would be next to the pool drinking in the sun, or out frolicking at Red Rock Canyon. A tape measure next to your junk turns me off, I gave that up in high school.

 

No excuses about it "Costs too much," anybody with a recent generation camera can get it done. Here's how: Find one or more "Fun" places and take literally a couple hundred photos. Toss out all but the best dozen; cut that down to the awesome six. Didn't get enough? Do it again; It takes practice. Rinse and repeat every 90 days.

 

Work on your copy; What the photo's don't drag in, you words need to. They're also be what'll get them to pick up the phone.

 

Las Vegas is a hard market; So your marketing has to be good.

 

See the first sentence.

 

Holy crap I didn't realize it was that bad.

I can't dispute any of your points. Thanks. I have to start making changes as soon as possible.

[aericlv]

Wait....so you went from being a 50 year old "straight" guy...

to a 37 year old "bisexual"...and you rate went from $100 to $200?

 

I'm not sure you're getting great advice here. Maybe from a pure

"take the money and run" perspective...yes.

 

But from a professional escort prospective?...yeah no.

 

Lying about your age and sexual orientation is never a good idea in my book.

Truth is...as hard as it is to hear....there is very little (if any) market for a

50 year old escort (and that's coming from a John who likes "older" escorts).

 

After 40 it's a "niche" market...at best.

 

If you can make it work...more power to you!

 

If you need to lie to make a buck....I'm not on your team anymore.

I know, thats exactly how I felt. But the fact is i like every sexual position and gender. Not being well versed on gay culture is a definite handicap. Labels are confusing. By definition I'm gay. When screwing guys, straight for my girlfriend. Thats all political. As for marketing noone even believes my age until I bring it up. But I definitely relate to your criticism. Thank you. I have to do what McDonald or anyone else does and give the market what it wants in terms of perception.

[aericlv]

Looking at your pics aericlv, WOW! "Nice looking" and "attractive" are understatements! In terms of stats like age, weight, etc, I tend to think in terms of an actor casting sheet, go with what you think you can pass for but don't overdo it and expect the market to respond if you do. You definitely look young and very fit. I like all the things you have said here and you might want to put some more of this in your ads, also some of your interview content in your ad. Especially position--if you like to give and receive you seem truly versatile and your luscious bubble butt will attract tops! Do you kiss or like BFE? Roleplay? Wrestle? You have great pics and describing what they symbolize could be great. Keep adding to your interview as new thoughts and ideas come to you--the interviews are always fun to read when updated. I get to Vegas a few times a year and I definitely like what you have here--good luck!

 

Thanks that's really positive feedback back. And this is very much casting. I'm going to get together with a friend and make a real campaign focusing on the points you have made here. I figure I should have a solid marketing perspective in a few weeks. Everyone here has been extremely help. Free massages for everyone : )

[+ honcho]

Free massages for everyone : )

I'm not in your market geographically, but gotta say , if I were, I would have a hard time keeping it at just a massage

[TruthBTold]

Definitely take out the video (I think) where it looks like you are doing drugs. If you LIKE having sex with both men and women, you are bisexual. Remember that orientation and position are different.

[+ nycman]

Wow, I have to say I'm stunned by the maturity (I mean that in a good way)

and earnest nature of your replies.

 

Now that we've beaten the crap out of you, throughly confused you, and given you

various advice that points in completely different directions....

 

Can I just say you look damn good for "50", and the thoughtful man I've seen you

be in this forum is sexy as fuck!

[aericlv]

Wow, I have to say I'm stunned by the maturity (I mean that in a good way)

and earnest nature of your relies.

 

Now that we've beaten the crap out of you, throughly confused you, and given you

various advice that points in completely different directions....

 

Can I just say you look damn good for "50", and the thoughtful man I've seen you

be in this forum is sexy as fuck!

Thank you I was definitely reeling a little from the comments but it was all food for thought. I should have come here a couple years ago when I first met daddy out here in vegas.

[aericlv]

I'm not in your market geographically, but gotta say , if I were, I would have a hard time keeping it at just a massage

Well hopefully I'll start getting around the country now that I'm taking this opportunity seriously. You guys rock!

[Meo]

I'm going to get together with a friend and make a real campaign focusing on the points you have made here. I figure I should have a solid marketing perspective in a few weeks.

Awesome, can't wait to see the developments. You have amazing raw material to work with! The only other thing I can think of for Vegas is maybe how quick you can get to the Strip, DT, etc. I get to Vegas a lot but am always on the Strip and never rent a car, so outcalls are what I would look for.

[Rudynate]

It's kind of silly on my part. I'm just not sure what is an attractive label. I'm definitely Bi I Love to give and receive oral and anal so It's just a matter of me getting the words right to describe myself. thanks.

 

 

Definitely identify as bi.

[aericlv]

Awesome, can't wait to see the developments. You have amazing raw material to work with! The only other thing I can think of for Vegas is maybe how quick you can get to the Strip, DT, etc. I get to Vegas a lot but am always on the Strip and never rent a car, so outcalls are what I would look for.

Out calls are all I can offer at the moment. I'm getting serious at the gym starting this week on tbis raw material and I'm about 20 min from the strip and downtown not counting parking. And can be anywhere in the valley in 30-40. My thing is this whole shaving and hygiene ritual before seeing a client though. So I always need a couple hours notice to feel comfortable before a date.