what is the point of putting "Ask" in your profile?

[+ glennnn]

I dont ask this in a negative or challenging way. I am really curious. I only have so much i can spend for your companionship, and i dont start looking until my bills are paid and i know what i can afford. If I see "ask" under rate in an escorts profile, I don't know what to make of it. I don't want to bother you if your rate is beyond my means. Some of you have complained bitterly about clients wasting your time. I don't want to be one of those. Is your rate a secret? If I contact you, you tell me and then I don't hire you, it was a waste of time, and I feel guilty for bothering you.

 

When I see orientation- "Ask"? I wonder why? Are you straight or bi? Wonderful, but I am not an Adonis that can attract every man, and I am looking for a GAY escort who actually likes sucking cock, and will enjoy sucking mine, not someone who is ambivalent about it, or, god forbid, has to force himself to have sex with me.

 

Is there some sales dynamic that I don't understand that is advantageously set up if I have to "ask" about your rate, or your orientation? With respect, I humbly and genuinely ask, why not supply this info up front? If it turns out to be a deal breaker, so be it. Why waste your time and mine?

[+ sf westcoaster]

I look forward to the responses to your question. Like you I have often wondered what was behind the "ask" on rates, orientation etc. When I see "ask" I just move on.

[+ glennnn]

@Kurtis Wolfe

 

Thank you so much! What you say makes sense. I do read all of the info in your profiles, so I don't think I am guilty of asking unnecessary questions.

[rvwnsd]

When an ad lists "ask" next to a category I take it as an invitation to request from the escort information about that category. Put a different way, it means "ask."

[AndreFuture]

Are you straight or bi? Wonderful, but I am not an Adonis that can attract every man, and I am looking for a GAY escort who actually likes sucking cock

 

I'm curious, why do you think being bi precludes one's ability to like sucking (or rather, only gay-identified guys like sucking)?

[MikeyGMin]

I am not an Adonis that can attract every man, and I am looking for a GAY escort who actually likes sucking cock, and will enjoy sucking mine

 

I'm like you, I prefer my guys to be on the gay side, however somebody in some thread made a very interesting point that has stuck with me. It was that a straight escort may actually care less about what you look like because they are not attracted to men in the first place. In a weird way, if you can get past the guy doing something that doesn't come to him naturally, it makes sense.

[tpl]

I dont ask this in a negative or challenging way. I am really curious. I only have so much i can spend for your companionship, and i dont start looking until my bills are paid and i know what i can afford. If I see "ask" under rate in an escorts profile, I don't know what to make of it. I don't want to bother you if your rate is beyond my means. Some of you have complained bitterly about clients wasting your time. I don't want to be one of those. Is your rate a secret? If I contact you, you tell me and then I don't hire you, it was a waste of time, and I feel guilty for bothering you.

 

When I see orientation- "Ask"? I wonder why? Are you straight or bi? Wonderful, but I am not an Adonis that can attract every man, and I am looking for a GAY escort who actually likes sucking cock, and will enjoy sucking mine, not someone who is ambivalent about it, or, god forbid, has to force himself to have sex with me.

 

Is there some sales dynamic that I don't understand that is advantageously set up if I have to "ask" about your rate, or your orientation? With respect, I humbly and genuinely ask, why not supply this info up front? If it turns out to be a deal breaker, so be it. Why waste your time and mine?

As a client, I have the same question. When the profile says "ask", I assume that the cost of time together is going to be too high, and I keep looking. I think I might be wrong. So I ask for advice also.

[+ glennnn]

@MikeyGMin

 

Could be. But when an escort enthusiastically sticks his tongue in my mouth, I believe he is probably gay.

 

BT . I love your avatar!

[+ glennnn]

I'm curious, why do you think being bi precludes one's ability to like sucking (or rather, only gay-identified guys like sucking)?

 

I misspoke. I'm sure there are bi guys who like sucking cock. My mistake. My point was more why put "ask" in the profile and keep the client guessing. Isn't the whole purpose or the profile and pix to help your clients to find compatible partners by distinguishing yourself from others?

[+ nycman]

If you don't want me to contact you...just put "ask" in your profile.

 

I'm more likely to contact a "TOTAL TOP" and try to convince him to bottom...than I am to approach an "ASK"....no matter what category it's in (i.e price, position, orientation, etc.)

[+ glennnn]

When an ad lists "ask" next to a category I take it as an invitation to request from the escort information about that category. Put a different way, it means "ask."

 

I agree! That's exactly what led me to start this thread. I looked up an escort, and found him to be someone I would love to see based on his profile information and reviews. I noted the "ask" next to "rate" and.....contacted him to ask what the rate was. I was roundly chastised by the escort for "making it all about money", unfortunate words were exchanged and communications broke down. I am not unhappy with this result, because we are obviously not compatible. He's a stunning, successful man and I wish him well. Its just hard to be disrespected when I was just following his instruction to " ask".

 

I don't think I'll be_asking again.

[rvwnsd]

...I noted the "ask" next to "rate" and.....contacted him to ask what the rate was. I was roundly chastised by the escort for "making it all about money", unfortunate words were exchanged and communications broke down. I am not unhappy with this result, because we are obviously not compatible. He's a stunning, successful man and I wish him well. Its just hard to be disrespected when I was just following his instruction to " ask".

 

I don't think I'll be_asking again.

Don't let one asshole discourage you from asking when the ad indicates "ask me." Unless you started your communication with "How much is your rate?" I see nothing wrong with asking.

[mattr]

I agree! That's exactly what led me to start this thread. I looked up an escort, and found him to be someone I would love to see based on his profile information and reviews. I noted the "ask" next to "rate" and.....contacted him to ask what the rate was. I was roundly chastised by the escort for "making it all about money", unfortunate words were exchanged and communications broke down. I am not unhappy with this result, because we are obviously not compatible. He's a stunning, successful man and I wish him well. Its just hard to be disrespected when I was just following his instruction to " ask".

 

I don't think I'll be_asking again.

 

Hey, you asked and you got a response. Kind of a bizarre response since both parties know that money is an important part of the equation... for the escort as it is how he pays his bills and for the client because he is parting with what could be a substantial amount of money for him. The response told you that you didn't want to see him. Sounds like a good thing in this case.

When I see ask, I view it as an opportunity to start a conversation without feeling any guilt if it ends in my not hiring him because of rate. I also makes me think their might be some flexibility his pricing... he may charge a lower rate for a rainy Tuesday afternoon vs a Saturday night. The sexual orientation one is a bit more perplexing as there are clients for every sexual identity. I always think that if he didn't know when he wrote his ad, how is going to know when I ask him???

[mattr]

Don't let one asshole discourage you from asking when the ad indicates "ask me." Unless you started your communication with "How much is your rate?" I see nothing wrong with asking.

What is wrong with asking "How much is you rate"?

[rvwnsd]

What is wrong with asking "How much is you rate"?

In general, I see nothing wrong with asking an escort's rate. However, I don't think that should be the introductory sentence.

[killianjamesnyc]

In general, I see nothing wrong with asking an escort's rate. However, I don't think that should be the introductory sentence.

 

I think this is put beautifully. There is nothing wrong with asking the rate. I have "ask me" but I also have my base rates listed in my profile as well.

 

For example, I have two rooms for two different types of experiences. I cant quote someone a rate without knowing the type of experience they want, length of time they want to meet, at what time of the day they want to meet and so on. All of those things including some other details can contribute to the answer on the "ask me." Three hours could either be $650 or $1,000. without having a proper conversation about your needs, wants and expectations its hard for me to quote you. Obviously money has to be talked about, but I find it becomes less of a factor when someone sees the value in the service thru a type of consultation like I just mentioned. This is my approach. I want to provide a maximized experience, find most people appreciate this, and more often than not see the value in it. If someone is dead set on getting a rate answer immediately, it tells me they're uninterested in exploring the possibilities on how our time together could be made even bigger and better. There are tons of guys on rentmen who will come in, fuck you for $150 and you won't remember it next week. A good fuck versus a great fucking experience. Its important to know which one you really want and how valuable that really is to you.

 

Give some details, create a little bit of a repore and the answer on the "ask me" might pleasantly surprise you

 

-Killian

[klifhangar]

I think this is put beautifully. There is nothing wrong with asking the rate. I have "ask me" but I also have my base rates listed in my profile as well.

 

For example, I have two rooms for two different types of experiences. I cant quote someone a rate without knowing the type of experience they want, length of time they want to meet, at what time of the day they want to meet and so on. All of those things including some other details can contribute to the answer on the "ask me." Three hours could either be $650 or $1,000. without having a proper conversation about your needs, wants and expectations its hard for me to quote you. Obviously money has to be talked about, but I find it becomes less of a factor when someone sees the value in the service thru a type of consultation like I just mentioned. This is my approach. I want to provide a maximized experience, find most people appreciate this and more often than not see the value in it rather giving them a quick rate quote answer.

 

Give some details, create a little bit of a repore and the answer on the "ask me" might pleasantly surprise you

 

-Killian

 

This makes good sense. Thanks for the explanation.

 

And I really think a trip to the NW should be in your future It's beautiful this time of year.

[+ sync]

I have noticed that some advertisers state their rates with the qualifier "starts at," or "base rate," which I think is good because it lets the shopper know immediately if the price points are affordable and that special requests will have to be negotiated.

[topinla]

A good fuck versus a great fucking experience.

 

-Killian

 

Sometimes (or even mostly) a good fuck is all we need. Hence our need to know straight away what the rate is rather than go through the "ask me" routine.

[+ SundayZip]

...Sexual orientation goes beyond three classifications. The same applies to sexual practices in regards to safe sex, the two options provided by RentMen are very restrictive. Make sure you login on RentMen so you see the full set of information as well...

 

This comment makes so much sense to me. So many threads in this forum, including this one, show how people assume stereotypes and make other assumptions based on the gay, straight and bi labels. For example, many assume that "gay" means that the escort will "enjoy" sucking you. Sexual dynamics between two people are much more varied and individual than can be described with these restrictive labels. If you're interested in an escort and he has tagged his sexual orientation as "ask", is it so hard to ask? Or would you rather just hang onto your assumptions and stereotypes?

[MikeBiDude]

This comment makes so much sense to me. So many threads in this forum, including this one, show how people assume stereotypes and make other assumptions based on the gay, straight and bi labels. For example, many assume that "gay" means that the escort will "enjoy" sucking you. Sexual dynamics between two people are much more varied and individual than can be described with these restrictive labels. If you're interested in an escort and he has tagged his sexual orientation as "ask", is it so hard to ask? Or would you rather just hang onto your assumptions and stereotypes?

++++1

[actor61]

If you don't want me to contact you...just put "ask" in your profile.

 

I'm more likely to contact a "TOTAL TOP" and try to convince him to bottom...than I am to approach an "ASK"....no matter what category it's in (i.e price, position, orientation, etc.)

Exactly!!!

[+ José Soplanucas]

In regards to rate it can be for a variety of reason such as time, location and length of session. RentMen doesn't allow us to provide additional information regarding our rates in the profile text so some guys prefer to send a "price sheet" via text or email. Others use it as a security measure to avoid legal issues. Once you've been vetted, etc you'll receive information such as price.

 

Regarding orientation or sexual position, some guys use it as a marketing tactic and others keep it open depending on who is contacting them ( women frequently use the site btw ). Sexual orientation goes beyond three classifications. The same applies to sexual practices in regards to safe sex, the two options provided by RentMen are very restrictive. Make sure you login on RentMen so you see the full set of information as well.

 

There are endless topics on the subjects here on the board, both as to why its done and "what do you mean there's something more than gay, bi and str8????".

 

Those of us that have complained about time wasters are more so talking about the the fellas that ask every question that could have been answered by glancing at the profile in the first place. When we talk about time wasters, we're talking about the guys where 90 to 100% of the questions are answered in the ad. I've gotten "You look like a porn star, are you one?" as well as "Are you in X location?" when I've never advertised in that location nor have I visited said place. I've also had people flat out attempt to fabricate information they claim to be on my ad then get yelled and cussed at when I correct someone on their mistake.

 

As long as you've read our ads, you'll be okay ( even if you miss one or two details ).

+1

I'm all for asking questions. And for learning how to ask the right ones. Do not ask "Are you a top or a bottom?"". Instead, ask "would you enjoy topping/bottoming me (and in the process make some money)?". It is not about who we are but about what we enjoy doing.

[killianjamesnyc]

Someone contacted an escort off their ad and asked "...(and in the process make some money)." Or maybe it should go "Hey are you available?" "Sure, come over, Id like to take your money." Same idea. Both are completely and utterly classless ways of approaching an escorting encounter. Oh lordt... Ah, you must have meant at a strip club or something. Please say you meant THAT. Even if you didnt just lie about it.

[+ José Soplanucas]

Lol. That was not the script of the conversation but my clumsy attempt to point out to the difference between identities and labels and performance of acts.