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I almost never tip a business owner. I express my satisfaction by giving him repeat business and/or recommending him to others. I will, on very rare occasions, make an exception when I feel someone has provided substantially more value than could reasonably have been expected based on what was charged.

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I don't ever expect a tip. Nobody gets a cut of my money (except I guess the government) so I don't take offense at all if someone doesn't tip. I find that tipping can be largely a generational thing. From my experience guys under 35 often feel the need to tip, which I won't complain about, but again, it's not expected. It was funny, I had a younger guy a while back who asked if I could do a lower rate. I gave him $30 off and then he tipped me $50, WTF! :p

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Nobody gets a cut of my money (except I guess the government)

 

For this reason, when I tip an escort, which is usually, I don't tip much. In the northeastern US, tipping someone is sometimes called "greasing" them. Spreading a little grease around just makes everything go that much better.

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It was funny, I had a younger guy a while back who asked if I could do a lower rate. I gave him $30 off and then he tipped me $50, WTF! :p

 

You’re going to make heads explode admitting that you negotiate rates. And with a young‘un, no less. So many forum members have stated that negotiating rates results in the escort providing poorer service. To keep heads intact, please say how offended you were and that you didn’t provide stellar service to your young client and adjusted your service to accommodate the lower fee.

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You’re going to make heads explode admitting that you negotiate rates. And with a young‘un, no less. So many forum members have stated that negotiating rates results in the escort providing poorer service. To keep heads intact, please say how offended you were and that you didn’t provide stellar service to your young client and adjusted your service to accommodate the lower fee.

 

And every time they said so just as many members, amongst them you and I, called their bullshit and remind there is no business model in this industry.

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You’re going to make heads explode admitting that you negotiate rates. And with a young‘un, no less. So many forum members have stated that negotiating rates results in the escort providing poorer service. To keep heads intact, please say how offended you were and that you didn’t provide stellar service to your young client and adjusted your service to accommodate the lower fee.

 

Well, this happened not long after I had raised my rates, so I essentially gave him my old rate, and no, I did not give him poorer service. I'm fact he came back to see me a few months later and was happy to pay my regular rate. Generally speaking though, I don't like haggling, after all we are in a service industry where our "value" can't be stated by comparing us to one another. There is no Hooker Kelly Bluebook.

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I pretty much always tip with a gift card from a nicer food store in their area....sometimes I'll ask before the meeting what is their favorite store....$20-$50 or so.....they'll remember me when they go shopping!

 

of course, I also always cover in cash any parking fees, valet tips, extra gas if they drove a long ways.....

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I almost always tip something, but I also factor this into the overall cost, which in turn limits how often I can afford these things. I think I would prefer a world in which everything is wrapped into the advertised rate and a small tip on top would be truly gratuitous, based on exceptional service, not given out of a sense of social obligation. Anyway, debates about tipping customs always remind me of that scene from Tarantino’s Reservoir Dogs:

 

 

Interestingly, in Seattle, with our recent fairly dramatic increases in the minimum wage, a number of restaurants are shifting to a no tipping model. Both the food prices and the workers' wages are higher, but the overall cost of eating out is about the same. I prefer the straightforward transparency of this system.

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I almost always tip something, but I also factor this into the overall cost, which in turn limits how often I can afford these things. I think I would prefer a world in which everything is wrapped into the advertised rate and a small tip on top would be truly gratuitous, based on exceptional service, not given out of a sense of social obligation. Anyway, debates about tipping customs always remind me of that scene from Tarantino’s Reservoir Dogs:

 

 

Interestingly, in Seattle, with our recent fairly dramatic increases in the minimum wage, a number of restaurants are shifting to a no tipping model. Both the food prices and the workers' wages are higher, but the overall cost of eating out is about the same. I prefer the straightforward transparency of this system.

I think Tom Douglas tried the no tip idea, but switched back. In Europe what to tip is always an issue depending on the customs of the country one is visiting. If a 10% gratuity is included in the bill, a tip is not necessary other than some small change if the service was very good. I always round up to a 15% or 20% total tip anyway when traveling. In countries like Vietnam where prices are low in general and great food is cheap, it doesn't kill me to over tip. In Dalat, I gave a cab driver a $1 tip on a $2 fare (Yes, a $2 cab fare for a 2 mile ride!) and he was thrilled. Somehow paying less than $5 for a cab ride of any duration felt unnatural.

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I do not think we can compare our tipping policies with waiters, who most times are workers getting paid below the minimal wage to our friendly escorts. Is there any other profession that gets paid 250/300 per hour plus tips?

That's a fun question. Would we tip doctors, lawyers, or psychotherapists?

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Well, this happened not long after I had raised my rates, so I essentially gave him my old rate, and no, I did not give him poorer service. I'm fact he came back to see me a few months later and was happy to pay my regular rate. Generally speaking though, I don't like haggling, after all we are in a service industry where our "value" can't be stated by comparing us to one another. There is no Hooker Kelly Bluebook.

If an escort I've been seeing regularly raised his rates I would hope he would honor my previous rate.

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If an escort I've been seeing regularly raised his rates I would hope he would honor my previous rate.

 

That's up to each individual, however in pretty much every service industry I know of, when a rate is increased it applies to all. My partner is a hairstylist and every few years he raises his rate. There is always the risk that someone might not like it or feel that it's too much, but rarely does that happen. I understand your perspective, but also think about the difficulty behind "grandfathering" people into your old rate and trying to keep track of who is paying which rate.

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That's a fun question. Would we tip doctors, lawyers, or psychotherapists?

 

Threads on tipping escorts inevitably meander in this direction. What it always boils down to is that one should tip if he wants and not tip if he doesn't want to. People who don't want to tip should realize that justifying not tipping is a losing proposition. No matter what, they end up sounding stingy and mean-spirited. Better to just not tip and not say anything more about it.

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Threads on tipping escorts inevitably meander in this direction. What it always boils down to is that one should tip if he wants and not tip if he doesn't want to. People who don't want to tip should realize that justifying not tipping is a losing proposition. No matter what, they end up sounding stingy and mean-spirited. Better to just not tip and not say anything more about it.

Ok, we started the labeling contest. I could say worth things about those justifying tipping but I will not. This is a free forum and I think everyone has the right to express his/her opinion without being judged or labeled or asked to shut up.

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I have no problem with a regular updating his rate if he tells me before meeting, inflation exists and that is absolutely reasonable. I just do not share the rationale behind tipping a professional that is making >200 per hour. OF COURSE that's only me. IMHO.

IMO a lot of client posters don’t really consider escorts to be professionals, even though they will say otherwise. Escorts are to be taken care of by clients.

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IMO a lot of client posters don’t really consider escorts to be professionals, even though they will say otherwise. Escorts are to be taken care of by clients.

Maybe. I'm not going to interpret the psychological needs behind tipping an escort. I'm happy if that makes you happy and you would have my respect. I just demand the same in return.

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Ok, we started the labeling contest. I could say worth things about those justifying tipping but I will not. This is a free forum and I think everyone has the right to express his/her opinion without being judged or labeled or asked to shut up.

 

No labeling here - just pointing out the impression a particular behavior can create. If someone says "I don't tip" I don't give it another thought. But when someone says, "I don't tip because . . . ," I start to feel like they stepped in it and should have quit while they were ahead.

 

People who tip don't justify it, they just do it. If the people who didn't tip just did it and didn't justify it, it would be a non-issue. There would be nothing to discuss and any thread on tipping escorts would die a quiet, dignified natural death.

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No labeling here - just pointing out the impression a particular behavior can create. If someone says "I don't tip" I don't give it another thought. But when someone says, "I don't tip because . . . ," I start to feel like they stepped in it and should have quit while they were ahead.

 

People who tip don't justify it, they just do it. If the people who didn't tip just did it and didn't justify it, it would be a non-issue. There would be nothing to discuss and any thread on tipping escorts would die a quiet, dignified natural death.

 

I suggest you to re-read the related threads. You will find plenty of justifications by tippers. And I say it again, that is fine for me.

I was going to leave it after my last post, but you edited the post I am replying to now and added a second paragraph. It looks like you do need to justify yourself here.

My point is, please everyone feel free to express your opinion about anything with complete freedom, as long as we are respectful of each other. And that's all from me.

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