Craigslist clients are they low end? Or am I better off with another site

[Mocha]

@Mocha I hear you. I think the original post was about the quality of clients on Craigslist. And I think the consensus, is that C.L. clients are more low end, and probably fewer potential regulars. We are not in disagreement, but I stand by my position, that if you advertise on craigslist you should get at least one repeat client and potential regular if you are good at what you do.

 

Yeah that's true. I just wasn't sure the extent you were referring to. Sure a person can get 1 repeat regular from CL, but it may not be sustainable. Just referring to the big picture. But yes, a person should be able to get a regular or 2 or 3 from there. But the timing can be so erratic and the pay...expect it to decrease overtime.

 

Denver was good for Craigslist. I used to meet so many guys from off there. Some of them were real studs. Never had any bad experiences. But it was never sustainable. No matter if I did backflips and somersaults over shower rods. I think I may have gotten 2 regulars off of it. All of who, eventually piss me off at some point because they'd either want it cheaper or faster. Craigslist is the McDonald's/Walmart of sex sites.

[jjkrkwood]

LOVE (and SEX) is where you find it ! Not everybody wants a "regular". some people like to eat at a buffet. I don't think venue has any bearing on "quality" . Just because you are paying $300 for your encounter from Rentmen or an agency , doesn't mean the guy is "quality", although you would like to think so.

[gezellig4u]

Well, I will add to the anecdotes (i.e., every single post on this thread). I have two regular dates in NYC that I met exclusively through CL. Neither posted on RM, RB, BP, etc. I have seen each regularly since early 2013 (yes, twenty thirteen). And I truly doubt that I am a "low end" client by anyone's standard. I have already essentially stated my profession in this forum, so I leave that to the curious to go and explore. Again, my anecdotes establish nothing. Just like all of the other anecdotes in this thread. I have no idea if I am an exception, middle ground, or the majority searching on CL. Nor does anyone else here have any such knowledge.

[+ José Soplanucas]

Well, I will add to the anecdotes (i.e., every single post on this thread, whether from client or escort). I have two regulars in NYC that I met exclusively through CL. Neither posted on RM, RB, BP, etc. I have seen each regularly since early 2013 (yes, twenty thirteen). And I truly doubt that I am a "low end" client by anyone's standard. I have already essentially stated my profession in this forum, so I leave that to the curious to go and explore. Again, my anecdotes establish nothing. Just like the other anecdotes in this thread. I have no idea if I am an exception, middle ground, or the majority searching on CL. Nor does anyone else here have such knowledge

 

We will never learn, my friend. In this business there are not universal models, but as many as clients/resources/escorts combinations. There will always be somebody pretending his ways and practices are better than others'.

I'm really curious about bp. I've hired some guys who post there, but not who only post there.

[gezellig4u]

We will never learn, my friend. In this business there are not universal models, but as many as clients/resources/escorts combinations. There will always be somebody pretending his ways and practices are better than others'.

I'm really curious about bp. I've hired some guys who post there, but not who only post there.

Agreed. Re: BP... I have also had many nice times with guys that posted on BP, but I cannot recall that any posted exclusively to BP (unlike with my many good experiences with CL exclusives). Let the anecdotes rain down...

[+ Oaktown]

https://sfbay.craigslist.org/sfc/m4m/5804166877.html

 

Re: Need a Massage or Chores Done (castro / upper market) hide this posting

body: skinny

eye color: bloodshot

politics: clueless

education: dropout

occupation: scamming and stealing

drinks: daily

diet: your food, drugs and alcohol

dislikes: getting caught and being honest

drugs: daily

 

age: 20

 

 

 

Be Very Afraid

 

If you'd like to get scammed and have your belongings stolen, these two are a perfect match for you.

 

In addition, if you're high or drunk and really must meet up with them, make sure that it's at a cheap motel where you can't be billed for anything that they destroy or abscond with and that you bring no valuables that you want to see again.

 

Furthermore, do not believe much or anything that they say. No doubt if you were to confront them with this post, they would attempt to discredit it with more lies. Don't be fooled, their bullshit is obvious.They have no credible references, be they work, school, family or friends. However, they have countless bad and failed references. A $20 background check will easily prove everything here and far worse.

 

You've been warned. Proceed at your own peril.

 

 

"Hey ,

 

We're two boyfriends who are both in college and struggling. We haven't really done to much of this before despite what people may think of us, we've only seen one person and cleaned their house from top to bottom , they we're very happy with our services and it was a very easy job for us. We charge different rates for diffetent things and depending on the mess you want us to clean up. We also give really good massages if that's something you might be interested in from us. We're also open to other various chores you may have for us.

 

Please send an email with what you're looking for and availabilty! We're looking to this today or later on in the week.

 

Sincerely,

 

Dillon & Joseph" (Our Hustler Names)

[MiamiLooker]

We haven't really done to much of this before despite what people may think of us, we've only seen one person and cleaned their house from top to bottom...

Do you think he meant "cleaned their house out from top to bottom..."???

[bigvalboy]

https://sfbay.craigslist.org/sfc/m4m/5804166877.html

 

Re: Need a Massage or Chores Done (castro / upper market) hide this posting

body: skinny

eye color: bloodshot

politics: clueless

education: dropout

occupation: scamming and stealing

drinks: daily

diet: your food, drugs and alcohol

dislikes: getting caught and being honest

drugs: daily

 

 

 

 

 

Be Very Afraid

 

If you'd like to get scammed and have your belongings stolen, these two are a perfect match for you.

 

In addition, if you're high or drunk and really must meet up with them, make sure that it's at a cheap motel where you can't be billed for anything that they destroy or abscond with and that you bring no valuables that you want to see again.

 

Furthermore, do not believe much or anything that they say. No doubt if you were to confront them with this post, they would attempt to discredit it with more lies. Don't be fooled, their bullshit is obvious.They have no credible references, be they work, school, family or friends. However, they have countless bad and failed references. A $20 background check will easily prove everything here and far worse.

 

You've been warned. Proceed at your own peril.

 

education: dropout

occupation: scamming and stealing

drinks: daily

diet: your food, drugs and alcohol

dislikes: getting caught and being honest

drugs: daily

:eek::eek:

 

Thanks for the warning Oaktown. This kind of information is what makes this site so great.

[pubic_assistance]

Craigslist is so obviously full of sketchy nut jobs and fake profiles that is literally the LAST LAST LAST place I would choose to meet someone.

[+ José Soplanucas]

https://sfbay.craigslist.org/sfc/m4m/5804166877.html

 

Re: Need a Massage or Chores Done (castro / upper market) hide this posting

body: skinny

eye color: bloodshot

politics: clueless

education: dropout

occupation: scamming and stealing

drinks: daily

diet: your food, drugs and alcohol

dislikes: getting caught and being honest

drugs: daily

 

age: 20

 

 

 

Be Very Afraid

 

If you'd like to get scammed and have your belongings stolen, these two are a perfect match for you.

 

In addition, if you're high or drunk and really must meet up with them, make sure that it's at a cheap motel where you can't be billed for anything that they destroy or abscond with and that you bring no valuables that you want to see again.

 

Furthermore, do not believe much or anything that they say. No doubt if you were to confront them with this post, they would attempt to discredit it with more lies. Don't be fooled, their bullshit is obvious.They have no credible references, be they work, school, family or friends. However, they have countless bad and failed references. A $20 background check will easily prove everything here and far worse.

 

You've been warned. Proceed at your own peril.

 

 

"Hey ,

 

We're two boyfriends who are both in college and struggling. We haven't really done to much of this before despite what people may think of us, we've only seen one person and cleaned their house from top to bottom , they we're very happy with our services and it was a very easy job for us. We charge different rates for diffetent things and depending on the mess you want us to clean up. We also give really good massages if that's something you might be interested in from us. We're also open to other various chores you may have for us.

 

Please send an email with what you're looking for and availabilty! We're looking to this today or later on in the week.

 

Sincerely,

 

Dillon & Joseph" (Our Hustler Names)

 

Please, submit a review. When you submit a review your opinion is more credible and reliable. The escorts have the chance to respond if your comments may be unfair.

If you are honest and truthful in your comments, I thank you because your intention is good. But any troll (I am not saying you are one) can come in here and post a pile of lies because of who knows what motives.

Please, submit an official review and follow the due process.

Thank you!

[marylander1940]

So I've been doing escort work for about 6 months. I was surprised at how much I was able to make so fast anyways between balancing my regular life and escort work on the side I was able to average 3-4 k a month off only using craigslist but I've had to advertise and message people constantly to get there. Lately this past month I haven't made much seems like there aren't much new clients to talk to on craigslist anymore the ones I have either have been running out of funds, stopped talking to me, or have inconsistent schedules. It's becoming harder for me to advertise and I've found myself having to lower my rate to make something still. Do you think rentmen would be a site where I could find better clients? I've stuck to craigslist because for awhile it was consistent and I've shyed away from sites like rentmen because I felt like more law enforcement would linger around in such types of sites. If anyone has experience with this please let me know I don't want to waste 30 something dollars on a membership if rentment isn't effective for most people. I also am better looking then most people so that's not the problem. I'm in the Los Angeles area so I don't live in a place like Montana or something like that. I'm great at talking to people and polite or mean if they want a dom I also never rush clients or cut time short and often find myself throwing in more time then an hour to get more repeats. Any advice would be greatly appreciated thanks.

 

Yes, avoid craigslist and BP!

[MiamiLooker]

Please, submit a review. When you submit a review your opinion is more credible and reliable. The escorts have the chance to respond if your comments may be unfair.

If you are honest and truthful in your comments, I thank you because your intention is good. But any troll (I am not saying you are one) can come in here and post a pile of lies because of who knows what motives.

Please, submit an official review and follow the due process.

Thank you!

Oaktown copied his post from a Craigslist ad (see the link in his post). He's not necessarily the original author.

[jimboivyo]

Oaktown sounds a lot like another poster we already have. hmmm...

[+ Oaktown]

And some poster here sounds like a BIG Noah Driver supporter. hmmm...

 

I repeat- Noah has never been anything but professional and honest with me. I've seen him several times, so how is what I said anything near hypocritical? It's obvious based on the replies since my posting on AJ that I'm not the only one with these issues. That's just black and white truth.

 

I can only make judgements based on my own experiences. Noah's always worked out for me. AJ did not. Simple as that.

[+ Oaktown]

Please, submit a review. When you submit a review your opinion is more credible and reliable. The escorts have the chance to respond if your comments may be unfair.

If you are honest and truthful in your comments, I thank you because your intention is good. But any troll (I am not saying you are one) can come in here and post a pile of lies because of who knows what motives.

Please, submit an official review and follow the due process.

Thank you!

 

I submitted my post in jest.

[+ Ace]

Listen to Juan Bruno......he gave you what SHOULD be the primer for anyone entering this business! (and good luck to you as well).

My only addition would be to "trust your gut."

[Kyle Clinton]

Hey Kent.

 

So glad to hear that your first months went well. Escorting, however, is more like a marathon than a sprint, so you are finally getting into the make or break stage of your escorting career. Newness has wore off, things are slowly normalizing and it is not that you are expected to make lasting changes to the way you make business.

 

Escorting, just like every other business needs that you invest money. The more money you invest wisely, the greater your return. Normally this investments for an escort look like this:

 

Gym membership fees, correct diet, fitness classes, maybe a trainer. (Can be a huge investment but this will pay off more than anything else)

 

A clean, well located place to conduct business.

 

Professional pictures. Your images (as well as your write up) are your business card to the world. A mix of professional and casual pictures will make your product look rounded and approachable. The better your product presents, the more you can charge.

 

Down the road, an investment many escorts chose to make is to quit any menial job that might be hindering their ability to take more appointments.

 

Your personal presentation. Your skin, your hair, your clothes. This counts.

 

Lastly, but definitely not least, the most important investment an escort can make is in publicity. Ads, personal websites, social media if you decide this is within your business plan, business cards, ads in magazines, you name it. Normally this is the investment that will make a difference between a thriving business and a dying one.

 

Don't go for the basic membership. In Los Angeles there are 300 escorts. No horny man will browse 300 ads. The first ten that appear will take the appointment. Only picture collectors and sketchy people will make it to the end. If you are already making more than 2 grand, then I strongly recommend you bite the bullet and pay for a platinum ad. Populate it with an intelligent ad copy that presents you in your best possible light and upload a minimum of ten amazing pictures. You will thank me. You will see the results right away.

 

Two more things:

 

For whatever reason you are not making your clients return. This is bad. Even in such a big market as LA you will make your most money from returning clients. Either you are holding back, you are not fulfilling people's expectations, you are promising more than you are giving... It might be something as simple as your incall location. Find out what's going on and change it. Being beautiful alone doesn't cut it, specially in LA. You have to be beautiful and the experience of being with you has to be beautiful. You have to send them off with a huge smile and wanting more. I am sure if you pay attention you will find out what to tweak.

 

Lastly, do not -for any reason in the world- lower your rates. Lowering your rates out of fear sends one message to your clients: "I was not worth what I was charging, I am not doing well, you can negotiate me down whenever you want." This is a slippery slope and it's an all too common mistake escorts make when trying to establish their brand. Once you are that desperate kid, you are fucked. Even when things are not as buoyant as you want them to be, you must project a successful, relaxed, confident appearance. This itself, will move people to hire you instead of the others.

 

Study your market. Decide on your rate. Stick to it. Sometimes calls will be fewer, but soon enough when words spreads that you are a great guy, worth every penny and super successful you will find that you can choose what clients to take and how much you want to work.

 

I am sure you have it in you. Make them smile.

 

Go get'em, tiger!

And once again gents...this is how it's done. JB is a pro at this business. Give to your clients AND give back to your fellow pros at the start of their own business. You turn me on Juan.

[+ BigRic]

Craigslist is the McDonald's/Walmart of sex sites.

 

+1

 

A-lister escorts (with, say, more reviews than me) may remind me of how far I have to go, but every time I swing through CL I'm reminded of how far I've come.

[BryanKnight]

You would be better off learning a) money management skills during tough times and b) creating new ads and photo series to hold audience interests.

Sometimes life happens and people are not ready to see you for a number of reasons.

Be patient and congenial while innovating and experimenting.

[RockyHardon]

LOVE (and SEX) is where you find it ! Not everybody wants a "regular". some people like to eat at a buffet. I don't think venue has any bearing on "quality" . Just because you are paying $300 for your encounter from Rentmen or an agency , doesn't mean the guy is "quality", although you would like to think so.

 

Didn't see this...but...I think when we are talking clients not providers....for professional escorts I would hazard to say that the more the fee paid by the client, the higher the quality of the client...but if we are talking something other than money, then other factors come into play. Of course an escort can have a high paying client who is "difficult" or "unappealing", then they have to decide, is it worth the money.

[jjkrkwood]

Didn't see this...but...I think when we are talking clients not providers....for professional escorts I would hazard to say that the more the fee paid by the client, the higher the quality of the client...but if we are talking something other than money, then other factors come into play. Of course an escort can have a high paying client who is "difficult" or "unappealing", then they have to decide, is it worth the money.

 

 

 

Things are often not worth their cost, they are simply a factor of what people are willing to Pay. Many times, the persons NEED/Want far exceeds the worth of the commodity. .

[MiamiLooker]

...the more the fee paid by the client, the higher the quality of the client...

Or, it could indicate the client is just lazy and/or stupid.

[CCMaryland]

The work that I do sounds very similar to escorting. I work in real estate and it's all about creating a brand and being consistent with your advertising. You find a niche and you market directly to that group. You work with many repeat clients, referrals and leads that you cultivate directly. If you travel to other regions, keep a list of the past clients in each city and let them know when you're back in town. I think many of the guys who travel and follow-up with past clients ahead of time are likely to get repeat bookings.

 

But as an RE agent, I never fucking advertise in CL. Nearly every person that responds to my ads there are usually unqualified and would never pass a background check. They are looking for a rental from a private owner that would not likely go through the process of checking you out thoroughly. Also, you would never believe how many times RE ads are copied and hijacked by someone from a foreign country like Nigeria asking to send the first month rent payment and security deposit with a promise to send the keys later.

 

From one "hustler" to another, step up your game and get some good photos of the product. Rotate them in and out. Really think about your brand. Use those websites like Rentmen or M4Rentnow as a launching area to your own personal site.

[JTtorretto]

Was hired by a billionaire media mogul via Craigslist.

[+ BigRic]

Was hired by a billionaire media mogul via Craigslist.

 

Beyond the titillation-motivated curiosity about who you're referring to (Geffen? Thiel? PM me please? ), I'm more substantively curious about why this guy 'resorts' to CL and am sure I'm not alone in expressing appreciation in advance if you could ask him if it feels organic to do so and share word here (of course, without compromising anything about his identity).

IF we can agree for the sake of discussion that there are generally more lower-cost escorts on CL and this guy is indeed a billionaire, cost wouldn't explain his choice. What qualities is he seeking that he thinks he'll have a greater chance of finding on CL versus a "professional" site? Greater discretion from someone who, no dis intended, perhaps due to inexperience doesn't even know who he is? But then, he's apparently shared his identity with you (to the extent you didn't know who he was on sight).

 

Perhaps I'm already overanalyzing and he was just coked up one night and stumbled upon pictures he liked. But that is interesting (to me, at least) nonetheless. IMO CL in L.A. has become a real sh*t show of pathology, perennial overposters and clueless 22 year olds (not to mention a seeming haven for really crass, 1950s era ways of expressing skin color 'preference' regarding who one is looking to meet).