May have shortchanged an escort!?

[Strafe13]

Gentlemen,

I have a bit of a conundrum, and would appreciate some advice. I figure that escorts would be the best to ask, but I'll also appreciate feedback from fellow clients. I think I may have shortchanged an escort in error today, and I'm unsure how to broach the subject now, many hours later. Plus, I'm also quite embarrassed about it.

 

It's a relatively small amount ($20 out of a $260 hourly fee), but it still bugs me. I think it happened because I had a brain freeze when separating the money upon leaving the ATM -- I should have had two $20 bills (plus other smaller bills) in my wallet after separating his fee, but hours later when picking up some food, I noticed that I had three $20 bills. This is the second time I've seen this guy, who's rather new to the profession (less than two months in). Not only do I not want him to have a bad feeling about clients generally, and me in particular, but I feel like we have a really good chemistry, so I feel horrible that I might have unintentionally wronged him. When I sent him a thank you text a few minutes after our session, he sent back a warm response. But I don't know if that's just him being polite, or that he may not have noticed the mistake at that time, since I know he was rushing out to meet a friend (we had an incall at his place). Plus, I've been trying to find a "regular" in my region for years now, and even told him that at our first meeting last month. He seemed pretty amenable to the idea, and I'd hate it if he thought that he couldn't have brought up the subject for fear of angering a new, potential steady client.

 

So, what should I do? Should I bring this up in a text or by calling him? Or should I wait until our next session (I hope there are many more) and just slip the extra money into that fee? Should I at least bring it up at that time? Does avoiding the subject, for however long, make it worse? I'd really appreciate the pros on this site advising on how they'd like a client to deal with this. Thanks for your time, folks.

[+ bashful]

This is about money. Avoiding will make it worse. He may be uncomfortable broaching the subject with you, but he'll remember it, so just reach out and say you realized your mistake. Wasn't on purpose, and ask him how can you correct it.

[Maximus69]

I've been shortchanged before by 20 bucks once or twice, whether it was intentional or on purpose I do not know. Everyone tells me I should count the money I receive before I leave but I never do as I'd like to believe they are still good people out there or I just forget haha. But these mistakes happen, maybe the client thought he counted the money beforehand correctly. But if its 20 bucks it really isn't a big deal to me so I wouldn't reach out to the client, HOWEVER if its someone that you want to become regulars with and see again I think you should speak up before the next meeting so that everything is cleared and you start off on the good foot before you meet again. Chances are he knows just as well as you do that he was shortchanged. So if you care to see him again tell him what happened I'm sure he will understand.

 

and good luck buddy, I'm trying myself to get a regular in nyc too! It's hard to find one hehe

[Nvr2Thick]

I'd call and humble yourself to him in a friendly way. Offer to settle up immediately. Propose settling up during a future session as an alternative. Don't try to wait and spring it on him when you're setting up or paying for your next session.

 

If I had shorted a guy I liked by $20 it would have been a $20 or $40 tip instead of a $40 or $60 tip.

 

Also, I tend to count out fees beforehand and separate them in my wallet, with another set of folded bills for potential tip. I hate counting cash while I'm trying to say goodbye.

[MikeyGMin]

Yes, send him a text immediately telling him that you think you may have accidentally shorted him. You don't want to put him in the awkward position of having to contact you, or worse yet, resenting it. Remember, you want this guy to be a regular. That means you need to establish trust and this may sabotage that.

[rvwnsd]

I'd call him, explain what happened, and ask him how to pay him the $20.

[+ glennnn]

He will understand, especially in the light of your good reaction to each other. Tell him right now! It won't get any easier, right?

[AdamSmith]

Agree with all the above. Fix it now!

[+ azdr0710]

so have you called him?

 

(yeah, I know it's 2:30 am in NYC right now - first thing in the AM??!!)

[BabyBoomer]

I'll make it unanimous, so far.

 

~Boomer ~

[body2body]

In my 30+ years doing this, I have had this happen a couple of times. As soon as is reasonable call him, explain that you in error left $20 less than you should have. Offer to bring it over to him as soon as it is convenient for both of you, or if he doesn't mind you will add it to his fee on your next appointment. This has always worked. Once the young man really needed the money, and I brought it the next day. On the occasion where the escort was willing to wait, it was made a more palatable option because I booked another appointment when I made the call.

[flguy]

And possibly add an additional 20 for good measure.

[AdamSmith]

And possibly add an additional 20 for good measure.

+1

 

It will pay dividends!

[MiamiLooker]

Gentlemen,

I have a bit of a conundrum, and would appreciate some advice. I figure that escorts would be the best to ask, but I'll also appreciate feedback from fellow clients. I think I may have shortchanged an escort in error today, and I'm unsure how to broach the subject now, many hours later. Plus, I'm also quite embarrassed about it.

 

It's a relatively small amount ($20 out of a $260 hourly fee), but it still bugs me. I think it happened because I had a brain freeze when separating the money upon leaving the ATM -- I should have had two $20 bills (plus other smaller bills) in my wallet after separating his fee, but hours later when picking up some food, I noticed that I had three $20 bills. This is the second time I've seen this guy, who's rather new to the profession (less than two months in). Not only do I not want him to have a bad feeling about clients generally, and me in particular, but I feel like we have a really good chemistry, so I feel horrible that I might have unintentionally wronged him. When I sent him a thank you text a few minutes after our session, he sent back a warm response. But I don't know if that's just him being polite, or that he may not have noticed the mistake at that time, since I know he was rushing out to meet a friend (we had an incall at his place). Plus, I've been trying to find a "regular" in my region for years now, and even told him that at our first meeting last month. He seemed pretty amenable to the idea, and I'd hate it if he thought that he couldn't have brought up the subject for fear of angering a new, potential steady client.

 

So, what should I do? Should I bring this up in a text or by calling him? Or should I wait until our next session (I hope there are many more) and just slip the extra money into that fee? Should I at least bring it up at that time? Does avoiding the subject, for however long, make it worse? I'd really appreciate the pros on this site advising on how they'd like a client to deal with this. Thanks for your time, folks.

 

Would you question what you should do if you’d short-changed the plumber or some other contractor?

[down_to_business]

You could text him that you really had a great time and to please let you know if there were any issues with his payment, but there is a big difference between knowing you made a mistake and thinking you quite possibly may have made a mistake. If you are certain you short changed him, by all means make it right. If you honestly have no clue, weigh your options carefully. You may have paid him the proper fee and will forever be a flake in his eyes after that.

 

Seriously, how many times do we think we may have left the oven on. And how many times have we actually done it?

 

The longer you wait, the harder it will be to explain.

 

And unlike you guys, I pay my plumber / contractors by credit card not cash so I can't short them a $20 by accident!

[Strafe13]

Would you question what you should do if you’d short-changed the plumber or some other contractor?

 

Interesting question, ML. I usually don't pay in cash for anything beyond small purchases, so doubt how often that would come up. I think this typically wouldn't occur because it's fairly standard for a cashier or other person to count the money immediately, usually for purposes of issuing a receipt and providing change, if necessary. But in this business, most of the good escorts not only don't ask for the fee upfront, but are also loathe to count it right in front of the client, as it kind of destroys the intimacy of the moment, and may also be interpreted as implying that there's a reason to distrust the other. I also care for the escorts I hire in a way that just doesn't happen with a plumber or gardener, so that's why I was all in my head over this issue. Thanks for picking my brain.

[mattr]

If I short changed an escort, I would want him to reach out to me because it would have been unintentional.

[Strafe13]

Thanks to everyone who responded. I really appreciated the feedback, and took everyone's suggestions to heart. Actually, after the first 2 responses were posted in the very early hours (I'm on the east coast, in NYC), I texted my guy at 1:30 am, explained the mistake, apologized, and asked him how I could rectify the situation. He responded a little before 8:00 am, said that it was fine and he didn't even notice, and also that he looks forward to seeing me again soon. He may have just been being polite about not noticing, but I still feel like it's a very classy response. Not only can I not wait to see him again (I'm not wealthy, so I try to keep this to a monthly habit), but when we meet in the next few weeks, I intend on giving him a substantial tip to show my appreciation. Thanks again for everyone's help.

[whipped guy]

Thanks to everyone who responded. I really appreciated the feedback, and took everyone's suggestions to heart. Actually, after the first 2 responses were posted in the very early hours (I'm on the east coast, in NYC), I texted my guy at 1:30 am, explained the mistake, apologized, and asked him how I could rectify the situation. He responded a little before 8:00 am, said that it was fine and he didn't even notice, and also that he looks forward to seeing me again soon. He may have just been being polite about not noticing, but I still feel like it's a very classy response. Not only can I not wait to see him again (I'm not wealthy, so I try to keep this to a monthly habit), but when we meet in the next few weeks, I intend on giving him a substantial tip to show my appreciation. Thanks again for everyone's help.

 

I am glad that things all worked out in the final analysis!

 

Once I mistakingly short changed an escort 100 bananas! He never said a word to me and my hotel was only two blocks away from where he was staying. After I returned home the next day I sent him a nice thank you email and jokingly said that he should have paid me! Well, we had done a BDSM switch and I was in charge. He then said, " Is that why you only paid me.... ". I was mortified and indeed when I checked my wrist wallet that doubles as a black leather wrist band there was the forgotten Ben Franklin! I got him the 100 via his Paypal account. Still, to this day I wonder why he did not contact me sooner. I'm glad that I made contact. Actually I usually send a thank you shortly after leaving and he does as well. However, that night it was quite late and we both just called it a night. I still wish that he had notified me as I could have easily popped over to his place the next day prior to leaving town. I also feel that if I had not worded my thank you email in such a manner that he would never have said a thing about it.

 

I wrote him a very nice review even though I had reviewed him previously and I included an inside joke about the whole incident. So no problems what so ever. Yes, the good ones act like that.

[mattr]

Thanks to everyone who responded. I really appreciated the feedback, and took everyone's suggestions to heart. Actually, after the first 2 responses were posted in the very early hours (I'm on the east coast, in NYC), I texted my guy at 1:30 am, explained the mistake, apologized, and asked him how I could rectify the situation. He responded a little before 8:00 am, said that it was fine and he didn't even notice, and also that he looks forward to seeing me again soon. He may have just been being polite about not noticing, but I still feel like it's a very classy response. Not only can I not wait to see him again (I'm not wealthy, so I try to keep this to a monthly habit), but when we meet in the next few weeks, I intend on giving him a substantial tip to show my appreciation. Thanks again for everyone's help.

 

Perfect outcome, you did the right thing and the escort provided the perfect classy response.

[dcguy20]

I made the same mistake a year or so ago. I was mortified when I realized my error and immediately texted the guy.

[marylander1940]

Gentlemen,

I have a bit of a conundrum, and would appreciate some advice. I figure that escorts would be the best to ask, but I'll also appreciate feedback from fellow clients. I think I may have shortchanged an escort in error today, and I'm unsure how to broach the subject now, many hours later. Plus, I'm also quite embarrassed about it.

 

It's a relatively small amount ($20 out of a $260 hourly fee), but it still bugs me. I think it happened because I had a brain freeze when separating the money upon leaving the ATM -- I should have had two $20 bills (plus other smaller bills) in my wallet after separating his fee, but hours later when picking up some food, I noticed that I had three $20 bills. This is the second time I've seen this guy, who's rather new to the profession (less than two months in). Not only do I not want him to have a bad feeling about clients generally, and me in particular, but I feel like we have a really good chemistry, so I feel horrible that I might have unintentionally wronged him. When I sent him a thank you text a few minutes after our session, he sent back a warm response. But I don't know if that's just him being polite, or that he may not have noticed the mistake at that time, since I know he was rushing out to meet a friend (we had an incall at his place). Plus, I've been trying to find a "regular" in my region for years now, and even told him that at our first meeting last month. He seemed pretty amenable to the idea, and I'd hate it if he thought that he couldn't have brought up the subject for fear of angering a new, potential steady client.

 

So, what should I do? Should I bring this up in a text or by calling him? Or should I wait until our next session (I hope there are many more) and just slip the extra money into that fee? Should I at least bring it up at that time? Does avoiding the subject, for however long, make it worse? I'd really appreciate the pros on this site advising on how they'd like a client to deal with this. Thanks for your time, folks.

 

This reminds me of a past thread.

http://www.companyofmen.org/threads/the-case-of-the-missing-money.98009/

 

So you hand the envelope or the folded money to the escort or masseur and say goodbye. Few minutes later the escort or masseur is knocking on your door telling you the amount you gave him is short. Since the money was never counted with both parties present what do you do? Even if this has never happened to you, what would you do?

 

It would depend on how much he claimed was missing, and it would depend on who the escort was. If it was someone that I trusted and the amount was under 100 dollars, I would let him know that I had counted at home and that I was sure the amount was correct, but to avoid a argument I would give him the amount that was missing. If it was a first time hire or someone I was unsure of, I would tell them that the amount was correct and I would not give them anymore money.

 

FWIW I count all the money at least 3 times at home, and then again before I hand it to them, and as I turn over the amount I verbally say how much I am giving them. So I have never had a problem. Interesting problem Travis, if this happened to you, I am curious how you ended up handling it.

 

I too count, and recount the money three or more times before the escort(s) arrive to make sure it is correct. It is always carefully placed in an envelope with his/their name on it. Only once, maybe over 15 years ago, I made an error in Amsterdam (due to currency change). The escort called me the next day (he left late at night), and haltingly explained it. I checked my wallet and saw that - in fact - I had more cash in it than I should and knew he was telling the truth. We met later that evening, I repaid him what I was missing (about $50), took him to a nice dinner - and we were having such a great time ended up hiring him for 4 days on and off and until today we are good friends even though he retired a long time ago.

[bigvalboy]

I also care for the escorts I hire in a way that just doesn't happen with a plumber or gardener

 

You need to hire cuter plumbers and contractors......LOL. FWIW, I pay my contractor, a real cutie pie BTW, in cash regardless of the amount (his choice). I do count it twice in front of him and then insist that he count it again...same with escorts. I count the money at the end in front of him, just so that he can see the amount, and suggest that they verify. Sometimes they do, but more often than not they decline the offer, but at least the money was counted in the open.

[Juan Vancouver]

After I returned home the next day I sent him a nice thank you email and jokingly said that he should have paid me! Well, we had done a BDSM switch and I was in charge.

 

I know this is out of topic, but I was really surprised reading this. I know it is somewhat of a joke, but I think it might reflect somewhat the way you really feel about it.

 

Why do you think he should pay you if he played submissive? The ver few submissive for hires that I know charge a lot more than the DOMS.

[Keenan]

My suggestion would be to call him as soon as possible, apologize and let him know it wasn't intentional. Offer to meet up with him briefly if he would like the money immediately or suggest another meeting with him where you can then add in the extra money.

 

Keenan