Placing the fetishes, kink,and gear/toys you own and that you are into on your escort ads?

[keithhardy]

So....I am into and have got into some pretty wild kink and fetishes, of course its not the only things I like when it comes to sex, romance, the BF experience and vanilla can be just as hot and erotic. I don't presently list any fetishes or kink on my ads, rather I mention from mild to wild. With that being said what is everyone's thoughts on this? I have mixed feelings, I think some would love the idea that you are into these types of things, where others would run. I presently see clients who read between the lines of "wild". Other clients not experienced in these things I feel would be turned away. I mainly ask because I also own a decent amount of gear/toys that someone may want to try but never have had the chance. Its a fine line in my mind and thats why I have chosen not to list what I am into and the toys I own as it relates to kink and fetish play, in hopes that like the guys who have "between the lines can be read", most can. Why so taboo!!!

[+ Charlie]

Why not just say, "I also enjoy a variety of kinks. Contact me if you want to inquire about a particular fetish." "Mild to wild" is too commonplace and general to provoke inquiries.

[+ honcho]

(My first name is also Keith; it's amusing that the first 3 people to like Charlies post share the same first name,

are all Keiths Kinky? ).

[jawjateck]

I agree with Charlie. Mention it in your ad. The word "wild" has many meanings. In my mind, when I see the word "wild", I think of drugs. That may not be the case it all, but that's what pops into my mind, because I have read many ads over the years with the word "wild" partnered with PNP, etc.

 

So say what you mean. By the way, it's something I like to know about a guy, since I am becoming more adventurous as I mature.

[keithhardy]

I agree with Charlie. Mention it in your ad. The word "wild" has many meanings. In my mind, when I see the word "wild", I think of drugs. That may not be the case it all, but that's what pops into my mind, because I have read many ads over the years with the word "wild" partnered with PNP, etc.

 

So say what you mean. By the way, it's something I like to know about a guy, since I am becoming more adventurous as I mature.

Thanks for the reply, it remarkable how we as individuals look at words, it never crossed my mind that wild could relate to drugs! I don't do any drugs, unless one considers poppers a drug, so maybe I should change that!!!

[jackjackjack]

A couple thoughts. If you're into leather a bit, maybe have one of your pics wearing. Also, someone who has an ad on RM in L. A., shows one of his photos, not with him, but just a pic of the variety of his toys.

Also, you could send me private x photos of you and your toys and I can determine if they're appropriate... hahaha... just kidding

[Moondance]

(My first name is also Keith; it's amusing that the first 3 people to like Charlies post share the same first name ... are all Keiths Kinky? ).

 

Somebody had better grab "KinkyKeith" as a Forum name while it's still available -- or is it?

 

"Mild to wild" is too commonplace and general to provoke inquiries.

 

Totally agree with Charlie. "Mild to wild" tells me nothing, but suggests that a guy wants to be (as the saying goes) all things to all people, and I'm skeptical about that possibility and about anyone who promises it.

 

For the most part (I can think of only one exception), the guys I've met for kinkier fun prefer that kind of play -- and mostly specialize in it -- and if they advertise that they are also available for a BFE, I take that as a concession to needing a broader client base than kink or fetish play will bring them.

 

I'm unlikely to choose a guy who I think is mostly a BFE provider for anything other than that. Too much uncertainty about the levels of enthusiasm, experience and commitment--and about the skill set--that he'll bring to another sort of session.

[borgerback]

Keith, I'm actually interested in heavy bondage and much milder forms of kink play, and in many ways, that sort of play ONLY; so I've been very frustraymted when, for example, on RM, the escort lists that he's into bondage, but has no equipment and no experience. Having said that, I've got two semi-regular escorts here in LA who were kinda new to the whole kink thing, agreed to play with me, and found they enjoy it and are good at it.

 

Interestingly, one asked that I NOT put the link info in my review; the other told me to please do so; and I always ask if the escort would like me to post a review.

 

I'm probably one of the minority of guys on here who would like to see B&d or fetish photos; so I'll second the great suggestions above, and say something like 'experienced in various forms of kink, please enquire.'

[borgerback]

Oh, and we will have to schedule a session if you come to LA!

[keithhardy]

Changed my ad! Thanks for all the great feedback and suggestions men! XOXO

[whipped guy]

Changed my ad! Thanks for all the great feedback and suggestions men! XOXO

Keith... I just checked your ad. It is indeed best to undersell from a purely marketing viewpoint in such matters. Your use of the phrases, "... Some kink... ", "...I know how to fit the role", and "...a kinky night filled with toys and gear" , more or less are a nice subtle way to paint a picture of what you are capable of doing.

 

However, I'm not sure if the person looking for such a scene would bite immediately. Therefore, I would suggest a pic with a subliminal meaning. Guys have posed with their dogs and that sends a sort of soft image. Conversely others have posed with heavy chains draped around their body that sends the exact opposite signal without overtly stating anything. A pic wearing a bit of leather always works in that regard. I will say that your nipple piercing does send a signal along those lines as well. So I would get a bit creative with the photography, perhaps a toy or two in the background that would not scare away the guys looking for the quintessential BFE, but might peak the curiosity of those looking for more.

 

In my experience most escorts who say they have "toys" only have a small slap paddle hidden in the drawer of their bedroom nightstand. That's one reason why I always bring my own just in case. However, most guys don't have that luxury. You need to somehow get the point across that you have more than a stray slap paddle, and from what I gather that seems to be the case.

 

It's a balancing act, but from the pics that you currently have posted I might suggest something similar to your pic with the Christmas tree, only have a flogger or what ever on the shelf with the cuddly snowmen! That would signal the whole gamut of what you are capable of doing!

[geminibear]

It's a balancing act, but from the pics that you currently have posted I might suggest something similar to your pic with the Christmas tree, only have a flogger or what ever on the shelf with the cuddly snowmen! That would signal the whole gamut of what you are capable of doing!

 

And once again if find myself trying to imagine Christmas at WG's house.

[+ Truereview]

Keith... I just checked your ad. It is indeed best to undersell from a purely marketing viewpoint in such matters. Your use of the phrases, "... Some kink... ", "...I know how to fit the role", and "...a kinky night filled with toys and gear" , more or less are a nice subtle way to paint a picture of what you are capable of doing.

 

However, I'm not sure if the person looking for such a scene would bite immediately. Therefore, I would suggest a pic with a subliminal meaning. Guys have posed with their dogs and that sends a sort of soft image. Conversely others have posed with heavy chains draped around their body that sends the exact opposite signal without overtly stating anything. A pic wearing a bit of leather always works in that regard. I will say that your nipple piercing does send a signal along those lines as well. So I would get a bit creative with the photography, perhaps a toy or two in the background that would not scare away the guys looking for the quintessential BFE, but might peak the curiosity of those looking for more.

 

In my experience most escorts who say they have "toys" only have a small slap paddle hidden in the drawer of their bedroom nightstand. That's one reason why I always bring my own just in case. However, most guys don't have that luxury. You need to somehow get the point across that you have more than a stray slap paddle, and from what I gather that seems to be the case.

 

It's a balancing act, but from the pics that you currently have posted I might suggest something similar to your pic with the Christmas tree, only have a flogger or what ever on the shelf with the cuddly snowmen! That would signal the whole gamut of what you are capable of doing!

You should invoice Keith for the consulting session. What am I saying? I sorta feel like I owe ya as a reader!

[keithhardy]

Keith... I just checked your ad. It is indeed best to undersell from a purely marketing viewpoint in such matters. Your use of the phrases, "... Some kink... ", "...I know how to fit the role", and "...a kinky night filled with toys and gear" , more or less are a nice subtle way to paint a picture of what you are capable of doing.

 

However, I'm not sure if the person looking for such a scene would bite immediately. Therefore, I would suggest a pic with a subliminal meaning. Guys have posed with their dogs and that sends a sort of soft image. Conversely others have posed with heavy chains draped around their body that sends the exact opposite signal without overtly stating anything. A pic wearing a bit of leather always works in that regard. I will say that your nipple piercing does send a signal along those lines as well. So I would get a bit creative with the photography, perhaps a toy or two in the background that would not scare away the guys looking for the quintessential BFE, but might peak the curiosity of those looking for more.

 

In my experience most escorts who say they have "toys" only have a small slap paddle hidden in the drawer of their bedroom nightstand. That's one reason why I always bring my own just in case. However, most guys don't have that luxury. You need to somehow get the point across that you have more than a stray slap paddle, and from what I gather that seems to be the case.

 

It's a balancing act, but from the pics that you currently have posted I might suggest something similar to your pic with the Christmas tree, only have a flogger or what ever on the shelf with the cuddly snowmen! That would signal the whole gamut of what you are capable of doing!

Thanks for a fantastic reply, I will work on that photo you mentioned, I do have a stray paddle or 2 and maybe sounding rods and e-stim too oh and as for that nipple piercing.....I did it myself!!!!!

[+ Truereview]

.. oh and as for that nipple piercing.....I did it myself!!!!!

Say whaaaaaaaaat?!

[keithhardy]

Say whaaaaaaaaat?!

Its true, with the help of a piercing kit I got off of Amazon!

Say whaaaaaaaaat?!

[+ Truereview]

Its true, with the help of a piercing kit I got off of Amazon!

You quoted me twice! Anything else you do in multiples? Consider me intrigued....

[keithhardy]

You quoted me twice! Anything else you do in multiples? Consider me intrigued....

The second one was my alter ego messing with us!

[+ Truereview]

The second one was my alter ego messing with us!

I'm naming your alter ego SuperHardy...and that's also your super hero power. The proof of your power is in between my legs as we speak

[whipped guy]

Thanks for a fantastic reply, I will work on that photo you mentioned, I do have a stray paddle or 2 and maybe sounding rods and e-stim too oh and as for that nipple piercing.....I did it myself!!!!!

Its true, with the help of a piercing kit I got off of Amazon!

The second one was my alter ego messing with us!

Well! LOL! I know what would attract my attention! Also, I had looked at your add a few days ago and prior to this thread. Simply based on the nipple piercing I got vibes that you would be into some sort of kink.

 

Regarding Amazon... One can find virtually anything... Even BDSM stuff or items that can be used for BDSM! It's just that the quality might not be up to standards.

 

Regarding the alter ego, "Marketing 101" says: just don't oversell it and you will be able to balance both types of services quite nicely! It certainly beats advertising two personas as some have done. Case in point: Conrad (who would hire a Conrad for BDSM?!?!?) was Master Avery's alter ego! Having seen Master Avery in action I can't even believe that he would be capable of doing a BFE, but when I first met him he gave me his contact info and his stage name was indeed Conrad at the time and Conrad advertised a BFE. Eventually that moniker was dropped and the rest as they say is history. Same for a guy named Sonny who became Brendan Black.

 

Unlike those guys who ultimately became specialists, something tells me you will be able to provide the total spectrum of services... and quite nicely to boot!

[Bargara Leatherboy]

Its a double edged sword, be too direct with fetish interests, and frighten off the vanilla clients, not being open enough and not getting the interest from kink interested clients.

 

I love flavors that are more intense than vanilla - just check out out your add- and its great - but do expect a little of back and forward with emails or texts before a session, as the communication about interests and limits are discussed. For me this is vital before committing to a session.

[+ nycman]

Ok, the nipple piercing was a dead give away that you like more than just one of the 32 flavors...

 

You did it yourself?...with a kit off of Amazon?...ok....so you're not the sharpest tool in the shed.

 

Seriously though, I'm not sure the kinky crowd here is the best to advise you. We're used to reading

between the lines and finding the "freaks like us" out there. I think we need to hear from the

Vanilla crowd...what scares them off?

 

Also the kink crowd can be very fickle and specific. A picture in leather...might turn off the rubber

play boys. A king sized butt plug?....might turn off the puppy dudes. People are weird (Thank

God!) so I'd avoid getting too specific unless you're tastes and limits are also very specific.

 

My vote, as a devoted kinkster...is the pierced nipple pic is a good start but one more pic a little

edgier would also help. Something simple...a pic of a paddle, a pic of you with a blindfold on,

or maybe a pic of your cock tied up. But NOT a pic that looks like the entire contents of the Sears

and Roebucks fall hardware catalog collection has been dumped out on your bed.

 

Sounds elementary but I'd also advise strongly against posting any pic of something you're NOT into

and/or with which you don't have experience. I've seen more than one poor innocent child get in

quickly over their head with that mistake.....

[keithhardy]

Ok, the nipple piercing was a dead give away that you like more than just one of the 32 flavors...

 

You did it yourself?...with a kit off of Amazon?...ok....so you're not the sharpest tool in the shed.

 

Seriously though, I'm not sure the kinky crowd here is the best to advise you. We're used to reading

between the lines and finding the "freaks like us" out there. I think we need to hear from the

Vanilla crowd...what scares them off?

 

Also the kink crowd can be very fickle and specific. A picture in leather...might turn off the rubber

play boys. A king sized butt plug?....might turn off the puppy dudes. People are weird (Thank

God!) so I'd avoid getting too specific unless you're tastes and limits are also very specific.

 

My vote, as a devoted kinkster...is the pierced nipple pic is a good start but one more pic a little

edgier would also help. Something simple...a pic of a paddle, a pic of you with a blindfold on,

or maybe a pic of your cock tied up. But NOT a pic that looks like the entire contents of the Sears

and Roebucks fall hardware catalog collection has been dumped out on your bed.

 

Sounds elementary but I'd also advise strongly against posting any pic of something you're NOT into

and/or with which you don't have experience. I've seen more than one poor innocent child get in

quickly over their head with that mistake.....

 

 

Thanks for the reply, and yes I did it myself, I also have a Bachelors in a medical related field.....I did a better job than any piercer would do! Very little pain and no bleeding! So I shouldn't post the pics of the needles connected to estim play???? I am working a picture that is pleasant yet gets the point across!

[LADoug1]

Changed my ad! Thanks for all the great feedback and suggestions men! XOXO

I like your new ad!!

[keithhardy]

I like your new ad!!

Thank you sir!