Age Limit?

[MikeyGMin]

Having

[+ Charlie]

How many 17 year olds have to pay for sex? (I certainly didn't at that age.) How many 17 year olds have the money to pay an escort? (I certainly didn't.) The reason I ask these questions is because, on the surface, the whole situation looks like one that requires plenty of caution. Asking you to acknowledge that you are aware of his age, before you have seen him, seems suspicious. Even if it is not a sting, it sounds like the kind of game a teenager might play. I would listen to the warning bell in your head, but if you do decide to meet him, I would do it in a public place to try to gauge the situation before making any kind of commitment to engage in sex or receive money.

[Juan Vancouver]

Hey Junior,

 

I know every jurisdiction has different laws so all I can do is share my personal experience and knowledge. In Canada, age of consent for non exploitative sex is 16. However, if an adult male wants to have gay sex with a 16 year old young man they can do everything but anal sex. Homosexual anal non exploitative sex only becomes consensual at 18. They are still finagling that but that's where the law stands at the moment.

 

Non exploitative sex is defined as sex between peers, where no coercion, pecuniary gain or power imbalance is present. It is the court's opinion that a young adult might not have the wherewithal to understand the subtleties and intricacies of consent under such circumstances, and therefore, legally they are unable to give it. Anyone engaging sexually with someone that is 16 or 17 in those terms would be committing statutory rape.

 

When dealing with young clients I try to understand the reason for which they want to hire me and then make my own decision. I have met two men on the week of their 18th birthday. Both provided two different official pieces of ID. One was a foreign kid learning English in Canada and had an arranged marriage waiting for him back home. He had known for years he was attracted to men but had never tried it. This was his only chance to try it and figure out whether he was even gay or not before being able to make a decision about marriage. The other one was living in Canada in a very repressive culture and was being demanded to start thinking of finding a fiancee. He also needed to know whether this was right for him. Both sessions included a coaching, talking to find out how they really felt, asking basic questions they were unable to ask their parents, basic sex ed relative to homosexual sex and a very careful walking through the body and how it works. I felt in both cases that a loving, and respectful exploration would be very important for them.

 

I have turned down a few other young clients because I felt their reasons were not compelling enough and they sounded unclear and confused about the whole thing. But I have turned down clients of all ages for the same reason. I believe the combination of over emotionality, confusion, intimacy and sex can be a very damaging combination. I have not sworn the Hippocratic oath, but I also chose to do no damage.

 

Also, and this, as a cautionary tale, I have a couple times been approached by someone ostensibly being an underage kid, but to me it had all the feel of a cop trying to entrap me. I very concisely recited what I knew about the law and clearly stated that I would not under any circumstance break it. Both instances stopped immediately after that. It would be a good idea to keep an eye open for that possibility. If you are not entirely certain of the law, better safe than sorry.

 

P.S. Not with regard to Junior in particular, but escorts in general, I wonder if a prospective client spoils his chance by broaching the subject of his age in advance rather than just showing up at an escort's door at the appointed hour, well-scrubbed, prepared to pay, ID available on request.

 

This has been talked about ad nauseam here. Here's my two cents.

 

If you are meeting one of the ten escorts in the world who are reputed to give you a consistently amazing experience, as long as you are an adult, you are not expected to share anything in advance.

 

If you are meeting anyone else, if I were you, I would let my escort know as much as I can in advance. By doing so you are making sure that any escort uncomfortable with seeing you, will find an excuse not to. Surprising the escort at the door might sometimes work against you. Some might turn you down, some might go through the paces and give you a soul less experiences and some might not even notice what you thought was important to disclose.

 

Would it be ideal if all escorts were like ___(Insert name of fantasy escort here) ? Yes, it would. Most aren't. If you want to avoid an uncomfortable situation and wasting your money, I would let my escort know as much as I could about myself in advance.

[LADoug1]

Hey Junior,

 

I know every jurisdiction has different laws so all I can do is share my personal experience and knowledge. In Canada, age of consent for non exploitative sex is 16. However, if an adult male wants to have gay sex with a 16 year old young man they can do everything but anal sex. Homosexual anal non exploitative sex only becomes consensual at 18. They are still finagling that but that's where the law stands at the moment.

 

Non exploitative sex is defined as sex between peers, where no coercion, pecuniary gain or power imbalance is present. It is the court's opinion that a young adult might not have the wherewithal to understand the subtleties and intricacies of consent under such circumstances, and therefore, legally they are unable to give it. Anyone engaging sexually with someone that is 16 or 17 in those terms would be committing statutory rape.

 

When dealing with young clients I try to understand the reason for which they want to hire me and then make my own decision. I have met two men on the week of their 18th birthday. Both provided two different official pieces of ID. One was a foreign kid learning English in Canada and had an arranged marriage waiting for him back home. He had known for years he was attracted to men but had never tried it. This was his only chance to try it and figure out whether he was even gay or not before being able to make a decision about marriage. The other one was living in Canada in a very repressive culture and was being demanded to start thinking of finding a fiancee. He also needed to know whether this was right for him. Both sessions included a coaching, talking to find out how they really felt, asking basic questions they were unable to ask their parents, basic sex ed relative to homosexual sex and a very careful walking through the body and how it works. I felt in both cases that a loving, and respectful exploration would be very important for them.

 

I have turned down a few other young clients because I felt their reasons were not compelling enough and they sounded unclear and confused about the whole thing. But I have turned down clients of all ages for the same reason. I believe the combination of over emotionality, confusion, intimacy and sex can be a very damaging combination. I have not sworn the Hippocratic oath, but I also chose to do no damage.

 

Also, and this, as a cautionary tale, I have a couple times been approached by someone ostensibly being an underage kid, but to me it had all the feel of a cop trying to entrap me. I very concisely recited what I knew about the law and clearly stated that I would not under any circumstance break it. Both instances stopped immediately after that. It would be a good idea to keep an eye open for that possibility. If you are not entirely certain of the law, better safe than sorry.

 

 

 

This has been talked about ad nauseam here. Here's my two cents.

 

If you are meeting one of the ten escorts in the world who are reputed to give you a consistently amazing experience, as long as you are an adult, you are not expected to share anything in advance.

 

If you are meeting anyone else, if I were you, I would let my escort know as much as I can in advance. By doing so you are making sure that any escort uncomfortable with seeing you, will find an excuse not to. Surprising the escort at the door might sometimes work against you. Some might turn you down, some might go through the paces and give you a soul less experiences and some might not even notice what you thought was important to disclose.

 

Would it be ideal if all escorts were like ___(Insert name of fantasy escort here) ? Yes, it would. Most aren't. If you want to avoid an uncomfortable situation and wasting your money, I would let my escort know as much as I could about myself in advance.

I always look forward to your posts. They are informative and compelling. Thanks.

[TruthBTold]

I agree, luv Juan and very jealous of Vancouver.

Hey Junior,

I know every jurisdiction has different laws so all I can do is share my personal experience and knowledge. In Canada, age of consent for non exploitative sex is 16. However, if an adult male wants to have gay sex with a 16 year old young man they can do everything but anal sex. Homosexual anal non exploitative sex only becomes consensual at 18. They are still finagling that but that's where the law stands at the moment.

I don't think that once a jurisdiction in a state establishes an age for non-exploitative sex it could then decide which particular act that it defines as sexual in nature can or can't be done. (e.g. "butt-fucking".) Also I doubt that it could allow straight couples to have anal sex till they are blue in the face but make homosexual couples in a non-exploitative relationship to wait until the younger reaches 18 in all instances. I am not saying that particular states don't currently have these crazy laws, just that they probably would not be upheld.

[rvwnsd]

Seriously? I'm musing about being a horny 17-year-old with money and nerve (and the wherewithal to locate and contact an escort) ...

 

Putting on my risk management hat I wonder if this is a 17 year old or an adult (law enforcement, perhaps) who is posing as a 17 year old. If I was Junior, I would decline and suggest he contact me when he turned 18.

[sincitymix]

Hmm a friends ex boyfriend ran into this situation and it did not turn out good for him. I think I posted about it before. He was dating a girl who was about 2 years younger then him.. she was 16 He was 18. The legal age of consent in Nevada is 16. He turned 19, her parents found out about the relationship and the sex. called police, had him arrested. Despite the fact that Nevada law says she can have sex without parental consent at age of 16, the judge had a screaming fit at "C" called him a sex offender and pedophile, and basically threw the book at him. He is now labeled a sex offender for having sex with a minor. I think he was/is appealing, but my friend "S" moved away and I don't know what happened after that.

So id say be very careful if one partner is under 18. despite what the law says.