Escorts what are your "dead zone" cities?

[jcmiami1]

A question for escorts - what cities/states/countries have you found to be basically no/very low demand aka "dead zone" for hires?

[+ azdr0710]

not an escort here, but I've heard from a couple that my hometown of Phoenix (6th largest city in the country) is a "non-starter" for most visiting guys (who don't already have regulars here)

[Buddy15]

Not an escort here but I have to assume that cities like Cleveland and Detroit are dead zones. What I don't understand is why more escorts wouldn't go to these cities since there's such slim pickings from the local working guys. I would think the local clients would love it if more escorts traveled there.

[Bryanforservice]

Traveling to other cities or markets is a tough call, absent a good base of regulars or a sponsor. Airfare and hotel (plus car/taxi, eating out, gym fees) add up quickly and make the cost/benefit analysis hard to justify. Dead zone markets are even less likely to make the cut for a road show. Better if you are in one of those dead zones to find a way to import the talent you desire and encourage the escort to develop further clients in your market to help him offset future travel costs for return visits.

[+ poolboy48220]

Not an escort here but I have to assume that cities like Cleveland and Detroit are dead zones. What I don't understand is why more escorts wouldn't go to these cities since there's such slim pickings from the local working guys. I would think the local clients would love it if more escorts traveled there.

Yes we Detroiters would.

[Rudynate]

Not an escort. I have suspected that San Francisco isn't great for visiting escorts, because so few come here to work. I spent time with Michael Vincenzo on his last trip to San Francisco. He said that, for him, San Francisco is great, but that other escorts he talks to don't find it worthwhile.

[+ poolboy48220]

Cleveland. Every time I try to go to Cleveland and put up an ad the phone blows up but trying to nail down appts is like pulling teeth, so I always cancel the trip.

aren't you headed there this week?

[faggot]

Cleveland client here. I agree that it's slim pickins around here (I think there are only 3 guys on bp with 5+ different pics/ads each) which makes me think that visiting escorts would be quite popular, so I'm sorry that killianjames has had to deal with so many flakes. The small pool, along with the criminals like http://www.boyscort.com/cleveland-escorts/602-349-5615/?pid=19494743, tends to make me travel just to play. I've had reasonable success in Pittsburgh, Detroit, and Chicago... and NYC is always a crap shoot.

[Decatur Guy]

I've heard from escorts in person and on this forum that Atlanta runs very hot and cold for escorts. They either seem to stay very busy or leave very disappointed with few or no appointments and lots of encounters with flakes. I know a couple of escorts who vowed never to come back here after visits.

[jcmiami1]

I'm a client too and Miami is definitely a crap shoot for we have many "here today gone tomorrow" escorts pass thru here including porn performers plus Lots of scammers, fakes, flakes and criminal types ( including clients) - we're a big tourist city and attract all types and you gotta weed them out and that's where multiple good reviews come in. For the real professional escorts they are mixed with this crowd and it's definitely going be difficult for them I assume

[Nebost]

I've heard from escorts in person and on this forum that Atlanta runs very hot and cold for escorts. They either seem to stay very busy or leave very disappointed with few or no appointments and lots of encounters with flakes. I know a couple of escorts who vowed never to come back here after visits.

 

I'm a client too and Miami is definitely a crap shoot for we have many "here today gone tomorrow" escorts pass thru here including porn performers plus Lots of scammers, fakes, flakes and criminal types ( including clients) - we're a big tourist city and attract all types and you gotta weed them out and that's where multiple good reviews come in. For the real professional escorts they are mixed with this crowd and it's definitely going be difficult for them I assume

 

I wonder if most cities run both hot and cold. Not everyone is looking at Rentboy every week, nor can hire every week. I would think if an escort can get an overnight or two booked from a regular, he is more than covered from a break-even standpoint. Otherwise, bookings maybe really good, or really bad.

[devonhunter]

To be frank, I feel that the advantage has moved toward home town escorts. For several years the flights and hotels were low. During that time, travelers had the advantage vis à vis "slim pickings;" however, now that the overhead has sky rocketed in the last year, it seems the advantage is in the home court. Escorts who don't have to cover travel expenses can afford to sit put and make the slow draw, whereas those of us who travel can no longer tolerate the risk. In this atmosphere, it is definitely way, way, way better to travel mostly to those places where you have an established, reliable base. It used to be worth the risk to just flippantly try a new city, but those days seem to have passed.

[+ DickyF]

I know there are a couple of regulars but Palm Springs has pretty slim pickings in my experience. I go there once or twice a year.

And boy is Devon right about airfare! I've gone to Ft Lauderdale from DC every Dec for many years now and paid less than $240 on USAir. Now that they have joined AA it's now $390! And I can't find anything better. I had similar experience with Palm Springs. Plus the airlines are treating their employees like crap. My brother works for another huge airline and that airline and others are replacing their long time employees with contractors with minimal benefits and pay. And who owns the contracting company? The airlines! What a scam.

Sorry for the digression.

[Rudynate]

I know there are a couple of regulars but Palm Springs has pretty slim pickings in my experience. I go there once or twice a year.

And boy is Devon right about airfare! I've gone to Ft Lauderdale from DC every Dec for many years now and paid less than $240 on USAir. Now that they have joined AA it's now $390! And I can't find anything better. I had similar experience with Palm Springs. Plus the airlines are treating their employees like crap. My brother works for another huge airline and that airline and others are replacing their long time employees with contractors with minimal benefits and pay. And who owns the contracting company? The airlines! What a scam.

Sorry for the digression.

 

The cost of travel in general has gone through the roof. I used to be able to get 3.5 - 4.0 star hotel rooms on Priceline for less than $100.00/night. Those same rooms now cost $200.00 or more, on Priceline. Breakfast for two in a restaurant is $30.00+, lunch can easily cost $40.00 - $50.00. A few months ago, I went to LA from SF and my ticket cost $200.00+

[wklucas]

The cost of travel in general has gone through the roof. I used to be able to get 3.5 - 4.0 star hotel rooms on Priceline for less than $100.00/night. Those same rooms now cost $200.00 or more, on Priceline. Breakfast for two in a restaurant is $30.00+, lunch can easily cost $40.00 - $50.00. A few months ago, I went to LA from SF and my ticket cost $200.00+

 

I've used Priceline "Name Your Own Price" feature many times with good success.....a few weeks ago, for the 1st time I grabbed one of their "Express Deals" because I was pretty confident of which property the deal was for....turned out wholly different....I paid for but never used that non-cancellable $1100 obligation.....it was way too far out of the way along with a place that would have been too depressing to check into & stay at....All of the good deals over the years should make it a wash with this 1 bad transaction but the waste of 1100 bucks still stings a bit.....this all being said, the Priceline "NYOP" deals seem a bit riskier lately too as far as which hotel will get booked.....I'm looking elsewhere away from Priceline for bookings now......for biz travel bookings, where price is no object / consideration - I still have my office secretary / assistant on speed dial.

[Rudynate]

I've used Priceline "Name Your Own Price" feature many times with good success.....a few weeks ago, for the 1st time I grabbed one of their "Express Deals" because I was pretty confident of which property the deal was for....turned out wholly different....I paid for but never used that non-cancellable $1100 obligation.....it was way too far out of the way along with a place that would have been too depressing to check into & stay at....All of the good deals over the years should make it a wash with this 1 bad transaction but the waste of 1100 bucks still stings a bit.....this all being said, the Priceline "NYOP" deals seem a bit riskier lately too as far as which hotel will get booked.....I'm looking elsewhere away from Priceline for bookings now......for biz travel bookings, where price is no object / consideration - I still have my office secretary / assistant on speed dial.

 

Do you know about the "Bidding for Travel" website? In my experience, their listings of hotels that are likely to come up when bidding on Priceline are very accurate and up-to-date. Using their information, I have been able to target bidding strategies with almost surgical precision.

 

Recently, I have been getting the best rates on Bidding.com. They are nothing like the rates that were possible on Priceline a few years ago, but they are competitive with Priceline now. And you don't have to pay in advance. There is a window within which you have to pay for one night if you cancel, but if you're outside of that window, you don't lose anything if you cancel.

[dannyboynyc]

I'm a NYC resident, spending lots of time in Cleveland and will soon move (back) to Cleveland. I do wish there were more escorts who visit Cleveland.

 

From my personal experience, escorts in NYC, Washington DC and Chicago can get to Cleveland cheaply by using Amtrak. It's a long, but comfortable ride. That doesn't address the hotel cost, but, it helps for travel costs.

[Zman]

One thing that keeps me from using the bidding feature on priceline is that so many hotels won't include parking and internet in the rate. So the good deal you get suddenly is $20-50 more per day because of fees. I like the "Express Deals" since you can filter out hotels that charge for parking and/or internet.

[Rudynate]

One thing that keeps me from using the bidding feature on priceline is that so many hotels won't include parking and internet in the rate. So the good deal you get suddenly is $20-50 more per day because of fees. I like the "Express Deals" since you can filter out hotels that charge for parking and/or internet.

 

That's good to know. It's irritating being hit with parking fees, resort fees and all that other stuff, especially when the discount isn't that significant anymore.

[Buddy15]

Do you know about the "Bidding for Travel" website? In my experience, their listings of hotels that are likely to come up when bidding on Priceline are very accurate and up-to-date. Using their information, I have been able to target bidding strategies with almost surgical precision.

 

Recently, I have been getting the best rates on Bidding.com. They are nothing like the rates that were possible on Priceline a few years ago, but they are competitive with Priceline now. And you don't have to pay in advance. There is a window within which you have to pay for one night if you cancel, but if you're outside of that window, you don't lose anything if you cancel.

I used to use bidding for travel but now rely more on better bidding.com. It seems to be more up to date and the moderator is much friendlier

[Buddy15]

Do you know about the "Bidding for Travel" website? In my experience, their listings of hotels that are likely to come up when bidding on Priceline are very accurate and up-to-date. Using their information, I have been able to target bidding strategies with almost surgical precision.

 

Recently, I have been getting the best rates on Bidding.com. They are nothing like the rates that were possible on Priceline a few years ago, but they are competitive with Priceline now. And you don't have to pay in advance. There is a window within which you have to pay for one night if you cancel, but if you're outside of that window, you don't lose anything if you cancel.

I tried to go on bidding.com and it wasn't a travel site. Is that the correct name for the site?

[Rudynate]

I tried to go on bidding.com and it wasn't a travel site. Is that the correct name for the site?

 

 

www.biddingfortravel.com

[Rudynate]

I used to use bidding for travel but now rely more on better bidding.com. It seems to be more up to date and the moderator is much friendlier

 

 

I'm glad to know about this. With the absurd upward pressure in travel pricing, any new tool is welcome.

[jcmiami1]

I know in Miami hotel rates are thru the roof almost - if not more

- than Manhattan!

[Rudynate]

I know in Miami hotel rates are thru the roof almost - if not more

- than Manhattan!

 

 

Rates are always high in the Bay Area, but the last couple of years, they don't even make sense.