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I can't imagine how embarrassed I would feel!

 

Killian's comments made me realize I have some unexamined feelings about these issues that have no place in my relationships with independent businessmen. Clearly, a published hourly rate is the cost of being taken seriously, so I'll never offer less for the first hour. But for my normal two or more hours, and for all those guys who say "ask me", from now on I'll lead with what I think is a fair offer. Not a lowball offer, but an offer I'd advise a friend to accept under similar circumstances.

 

The rest I'll take up in therapy.

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I just find the idea of negotiation, initiated by either party, to be a total buzz-kill to the experience I'm trying to create. There is a guy who's advertised here for some time but he's 1) not formally reviewed here, though there is a mediocre review elsewhere, and, 2) $300+/hr.

That's the top end of rates here and I'd gladly pay for my customary 2 hours if I had a high degree of confidence it wasn't going to be a waste and disappointment.

 

I'm not going to contact him and say "Hey... you're young, unreviewed and too expensive. Knock $100 off and well give it a try." I'm simply not going to contact him at all; if anything changes I'll call him in a heartbeat.

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Is it in bad taste to negotiate prices?

 

The whole idea of good and bad taste is a construct that changes from culture to culture. In Egypt if you try to buy something and pay the posted price, people will feel dejected and annoyed. The art of haggling is an important and necessary part of doing business. The same applies to many different cultures.

 

Haggling or not haggling are not tasteful or distasteful per se. It is entirely up to you to decide what kind of experience you want to have in your commercial interaction. It is also important to consider whether the person with whom you are doing business will be receptive to it.

 

When it comes to purchasing a very personal, intimate service, as in the companionship of a professional escort, you have to consider whether opening up with haggling might set the tone for the rest of the transaction. You have to decide whether you would be happy if this dynamic enters the relationship.

 

This is entirely a matter of personal taste and clients and escorts alike will disagree about what is acceptable, so the only possible answer is: What is acceptable is entirely different with every individual interaction you have. In other words, it depends. Some like it, some don't. If you like haggling, try to find escorts who enjoy the sport and vice versa.

 

I do not negotiate my rates. Ever. I offer a different rate for longer sessions, but my rates reflect the absolute minimum I am willing to accept in order to invest my time and energy to entertain my client. I often receive discount requests for the most incredible reasons. ("What is your rate for a man who just got diagnosed with cancer?") and I always politely say that I don't negotiate my rates. If I know of escorts with lower rates that I can recommend, I mention them. If I don't, I simply thank them for their enquiry. Some people hang up without answering, some actually end up paying full price and tipping generously. Which makes me think that it is not that they are cheap, it's just that haggling is too ingrained in their brains.

 

Do that which which you feel comfortable, and just for safety, keep checking to make sure that your choices are making your life better. There are no written rules about it.

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I don't try to negotiate rates. I've asked guys whether they offer a multi-hour rate, but I would not call that negotiation. The closest I've come to "negotiating" is when I asked a guy about a multi-hour rate and he replied "what do you think is fair?" His 1-hour rate was $250, so I suggested $400. He countered with $450 and we went with that.

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I don't think I haggle. I usually hire for more than one hour. I ask his fee and the escort has stated his price. A couple of times I have told the escort that the price was above of my budget. The escort has come back with a counter offer.

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Anyone else cracking up about all the posts from guys who boldly state they don't negotiate or haggle and then go on to describe their experiences negotiating or haggling rates?

 

I don't eat snails but let me tell you about my experience with escargot! (ok, not really... I won't eat it)

Well.. haggling certainly beats bartering. Ill give you 2 chickens and a pig for 2 hours of your time! :p

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13th anniversary of my first hire this week. I have always approached hiring as a multiple hour situation. As most of the gentlemen who I have for longer periods, my overnights are not necessarily typical. I find the whole business of working out prices the hardest part to deal with.

If a person has posted prices I would never be rude and ask if they would accept less. If I don't like the price I don't contact period, even if they say rates negotiable.

I ask what is the rate for 2 or 3 hours or overnight (usually traveling to me, my paying all expenses for travel already stated) depending upon what I am looking for at that moment.

The gentleman (men) responds with an amount and I either accept or I will politely decline and I don't waste his time further.

To the point of well its different if the gentleman offers a lower amount. I beg to differ there, no I take it back I totally disagree. Out of 7 times I have accepted an offer to do it for less only once did I have a positive experience, cudos to David, SF always a professional. I appreciated it and had many positive experiences with him afterwards. The other 6 were not only awful but were the 6 worst experiences of my life. For example, one gentleman kept reminding for all three hours at $750 what a fabulous deal I was getting, lets see that was 20 min fuck and 20 min of making out, stupid me even took him out for meal. Another, ended up threatening to blackmail me later was the reason I needed to change identities and many other things. Another was a puss mouth the whole time disappointed about the rate he offered. All three are or were reviewed on here. So many times I would say to myself just politely say no thank you and move on, but no I had to let the little head do the listening. Finally the last one which was an expensive mistake I wrote the review and I do not ever negotiate prices even if the gentleman offers, no way no how.

 

So I fall in line with Juan and Steven on this subject, if you can't afford it no problem just move on and wait until you can. Some people get thrill out negotiation and then like to come here and say how they had fabulous sex at 1/2 the price. Well good for you!!

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I find the whole business of working out prices the hardest part to deal with.

 

What’s hard about it, if as you state, “The gentleman (men) responds with an amount and I either accept or I will politely decline and I don't waste his time further”? Sounds pretty cut and dried to me.

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So, I broke the cardinal rule yesterday and met someone who had "ask me" and I didn't ask. He's new (perhaps a month) and I had contacted him a couple of weeks ago but he didn't do incalls. He just popped up on RB Monday showing "ask me" for incalls so I arranged to meet him on a whim for an hour rather than my usual 2.

 

Turns out the location was a nearby hotel (low end - probably $50 to $75 - he indicated I was his only client for the day and lived a few miles away). We met, things went very well (young, new and not especially savvy but very enthusiastic and pretty hot) and THEN I asked how much - $300 - at the high end of Atlanta and not an amount I would pay for someone unreviewed.

 

I smiled and paid him without comment.

 

In retrospect I absolutely should have asked first; I was a dumbass for not confirming this. Do I feel ripped off? Not especially, given his expense and how well things went. But, I won't be calling him again for $300; I suggested he consider the incall option for anyone he's met, circumstances allowing, and shoot me a text if he's able to arrange it.

 

Lesson learned - there's enough potential surprises with faked photos, etc., and don't walk in the door without knowing an amount.

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Why do so many posters give a shit about what another poster pays??? Obviously, negotiating a fee works for some posters and not for others. If it doesn’t work for you, why does that make it wrong for others? Does it have any bearing at all on their positive experiences?

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Why do so many posters give a shit about what another poster pays??? Obviously, negotiating a fee works for some posters and not for others. If it doesn’t work for you, why does that make it wrong for others? Does it have any bearing at all on their positive experiences?

 

 

They don't really. They just like to be heard. That's what social media are for. Just like you felt compelled to make your view known. You didn't need to do that, did you? It wouldn't have changed anything for you if you hadn't, but you did.

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I don't think I haggle. I usually hire for more than one hour. I ask his fee and the escort has stated his price. A couple of times I have told the escort that the price was above of my budget. The escort has come back with a counter offer.

 

You did absolutely nothing wrong, however, you might be mistaken if you think this wasn’t a negotiated fee since you didn’t accept the initial fee stated by the escort. Assuming all went well, it sounds like a win-win situation for both you and the escort. Isn’t that how it should be?

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"Haggling" is a poor way to look at it. You're not buying a velvet painting in Tijuana. But, what's wrong with trying to get the best rate possible?

 

I suppose there's nothing wrong with trying to get the best rate possible. But, for me, "negotiating" for a service such as this makes the experience more about dollars than about personal service. It's just how I feel about it.

 

Why do so many posters give a shit about what another poster pays??? Obviously, negotiating a fee works for some posters and not for others. If it doesn’t work for you, why does that make it wrong for others? Does it have any bearing at all on their positive experiences?

 

It doesn't make it wrong for others if that's how they approach it. You are right, everyone approaches it differently and if it works for them, fine.

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If you want a honest escort opinion that isn't sugar coated..

 

Ignored, I won't even talk to them. Not looking for clientele who are going to haggle me. Especially if its for a hour. Just puts a bad taste in my mouth.

 

There is etiquette, respect and quality that I think all gentlemen look for on both ends. Haggling a service of time is not one of them.

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If you want a honest escort opinion that isn't sugar coated..

 

Ignored, I won't even talk to them. Not looking for clientele who are going to haggle me. Especially if its for a hour. Just puts a bad taste in my mouth.

 

There is etiquette, respect and quality that I think all gentlemen look for on both ends. Haggling a service of time is not one of them.

 

nice response. exactly what I would expect from a good escort.

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For me, it's not necessarily about the actual haggling, but more about the discussion of money in general. I personally have a much more connected and enjoyable experience with a client when money is not discussed or kept to a bare minimal. When I'm on my way to meet a client, I'm in a good mood and have a genuine excitement about meeting them. Prolonging a discussion about rates distracts from everything else. I would also feel less enthusiastic going into a situation with a client when after being haggled. I'd say about 2/3 of the time a client gives me more than my rate. I'm also not a "clock watcher" so often times I spend more than one hour with a client (my way of tipping I guess) as I thoroughly enjoy conversing before and/or after.

 

I would never tell a client, "instead of a full hour can we limit it to 40 minutes at the same rate?" If, as a client, you would be fine with an escort haggling his time, then I think it's perfectly fine for you to haggle on rate. I would personally feel self-conscious and uncomfortable attempting to haggle a client. I also feel that as an escort, haggling my time would be incredibly inappropriate. But that’s my take on it. Just because I feel it’s inappropriate for me doesn’t mean I think it should never happen and that no one should do it.

 

The only time I accepted a lower rate was after a client arrived to my apartment before we started. I thought it was in poor taste. I probably wouldn’t have invited him over if he had tried haggling before coming over. One has to take into account the basic principle of supply and demand. If the demand is low and the supply (an escort's time) is high; some haggling might do them some good. If the demand is higher than their supply, they can afford to ignore lower offers and accept clients that are best suited for them. Overall, I don’t have a moral opinion on haggling; it’s just something I prefer not to engage in for quality assurance reasons.

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But, for me, "negotiating" for a service such as this makes the experience more about dollars than about personal service. It's just how I feel about it.

 

 

Do you really believe that good looking young escorts meet with older men without being motivated by money?

 

Nothing will convince me otherwise.

 

Sorry, it's just how I feel about it.

 

My opinion stated above does not mean that I personally haggle over fees (I don't).

 

I am saying that I fully understand why a client might haggle over fees asked by an escort that are fees higher than the usual rate for the area.

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