"Ask me" rates . . .

[+ Chris Eisenhower]

From the escort perspective I find it odd when clients DON’T ask questions, and like Steven almost everyone who contacts me asks me about my rates and other services even though this information is already posted. I don’t find this to be annoying at all—rather I find it to show that the client wants to be informed before making a hiring decision and is confirming what he’s read to be accurate.

 

I am not nearly so naive as to believe a client looks at my ad, and only my ad when coming to DC and making the decision to hire. When someone contacts me, this type of inquiry does just fine: “Hi, I’m _____ and will be in DC on ____. I am a __, __, __, and am looking for (insert type of experience here). Please let me know what your availability would be for (date/time) and if you can (host/come to my hotel), as well as your rate for (length of time).” This says nothing whatsoever about shortlists, data points, etc. and gets you the information you need, correct?

 

Now, If I were hiring (and I've had to check out other escorts for clients before)... my concerns would be as follows:

 

Do you have bad/any reviews at all? (bad = no unless there’s a good rebuttal)

Are you even available during the time I’m here? (no = no)

How well do you communicate and what do you reveal during our discussion? (poorly/1-word, etc = no)

What is your body type/what do you look like? (bad pics or not my taste = no)

What services do you offer/not offer? (certain things off the table = no)

 

And then finally... What is your rate?

 

It’s not that I wouldn’t be concerned about rate—but even if someone puts ASK ME, I know it’s not that hard to find out. I take into consideration that most guys are probably going to be within $50 of each other in a given market. And by checking reviews, you’re going to get an idea of what this person charges based on prior appointments. To me it’s FAR more frustrating to get all the data about an escort and then find out as the last factor that they won’t even be in town when I am, or that they conduct themselves like a child when talking to me. These are all steps EVERY CLIENT should be taking with EVERY POTENTIAL HIRE.

 

One more thing (which I've said in the past) about "ASK ME..."

 

M4RN offers the ability to choose this option, and for a while made everyone post "ASK ME" instead of an actual rate. In my case, I used it because I offered more than one service (massage and escorting) at more than one rate. I finally posted my escort rate and then described both services and prices in my initial introduction when contacted. I don't see either approach as being better or worse since I've sent out the same information in both scenarios.

[down_to_business]

Interesting to see all the different perspectives on this and to some extent how different they are. I especially found ChrisE's perspective on the following enlightening:

 

"Now, If I were hiring (and I've had to check out other escorts for clients before)... my concerns would be as follows:

 

1) Do you have bad/any reviews at all? (bad = no unless there’s a good rebuttal)

2) Are you even available during the time I’m here? (no = no)

3) How well do you communicate and what do you reveal during our discussion? (poorly/1-word, etc = no)

4) What is your body type/what do you look like? (bad pics or not my taste = no)

5) What services do you offer/not offer? (certain things off the table = no)

 

6) And then finally... What is your rate?"

 

I personally rank the criteria differently, and almost completely differently. 6,4, 2, 5, (3 &1 tie).

 

It seems some of us don't mind ask me rates at all and some of us are so turned off by them that we move on to the next escort-- but we don't even approach looking for an escort the same way.

[+ Chris Eisenhower]

Interesting to see all the different perspectives on this and to some extent how different they are. I especially found ChrisE's perspective on the following enlightening:

 

"Now, If I were hiring (and I've had to check out other escorts for clients before)... my concerns would be as follows:

 

1) Do you have bad/any reviews at all? (bad = no unless there’s a good rebuttal)

2) Are you even available during the time I’m here? (no = no)

3) How well do you communicate and what do you reveal during our discussion? (poorly/1-word, etc = no)

4) What is your body type/what do you look like? (bad pics or not my taste = no)

5) What services do you offer/not offer? (certain things off the table = no)

 

6) And then finally... What is your rate?"

 

I personally rank the criteria differently, and almost completely differently. 6,4, 2, 5, (3 &1 tie).

 

It seems some of us don't mind ask me rates at all and some of us are so turned off by them that we move on to the next escort-- but we don't even approach looking for an escort the same way.

 

I guess my point is: Why does it matter how cheap you are or what you look like or what services you offer— if you suck at doing it and have disappointed others. Why would I hire you? And if you're not available anyway, then the rest of the discussion is meaningless.

[down_to_business]

I guess my point is: Why does it matter how cheap you are or what you look like or what services you offer— if you suck at doing it and have disappointed others. Why would I hire you? And if you're not available anyway, then the rest of the discussion is meaningless.

 

I agree with your perspective. You are right. I am right too.

 

Mine is just different. I would try to verbalize it as : why should I even take the time to consider hiring you if you are out of my comfort zone. If you are within my means, then I can explore your ad and see if you are attractive to me, available when I need you, and offer the services I am looking for. Finally if you meet all those needs, then I will read the reviews about your services from those anonymous internet people that I don't personally know, and see how professionally you responded to them (if any response at all) and decide for myself if I believe it or not.

[scottspearsxxx]

I am not a big proponet of the Ask Me rates. I have pretty much kept the same rates since the start of the recession in 2008. First hour is 150, 3 hours for 400, overnight for 600, and weekend for 1000. I think they are fair and reasonable rates for my time. I publish them whenever I post an ad. And, if you are a regular client, you get an even further reduced rate thanking you for having me back. Scott

[kevininsa]

I'm confused at how multiple-hour appointments are handled—or if the clients who "don't like to negotiate/regard asking as a waste of time" simply pay #hours x hourly rate.

 

For those of us (me included) who find it a bit annoying when someone advertises their rate as "Ask Me", I don't think the issue is that we don't EVER want to discuss rates ... or when inquiring about the rate for a multi-hour appointment - but rather, it just adds an extra level of complexity

 

Exactly! I have no problem asking their rate for 2 or 3 hours. I just don't want to waste my time asking just to find out their per hour rate is above my personal set limit. It's annoying and the couple times I've broken my rule I've been disappointed because the escort thinks he can get $100 over the local market rate because that's what he gets in XYZ.

[jimboivyo]

Exactly! I have no problem asking their rate for 2 or 3 hours. I just don't want to waste my time asking just to find out their per hour rate is above my personal set limit. It's annoying and the couple times I've broken my rule I've been disappointed because the escort thinks he can get $100 over the local market rate because that's what he gets in XYZ.

 

an quality escort can ask what he wants so long as his reviews are up to snuff

 

now charging more just because you're from 'the big city' is foolish. as I said earlier, the best thing you can do is talk to who you're interested in, ask and communicate

[bigvalboy]

dam, you guys are still bickering about this.

 

lol....

[BaronArtz]

Dam, you guys are still bickering about this.

 

Yes, it amazes me too. With limited or no chance that the PRO 'ask me' camp will convince the AGAINST 'ask me' camp, or the other way around. Because it boils down to who we really are, as a person. On one hand, you have the entrepreneurial, adventurous crowd that loves uncovering the hidden gem or the amazing deal. On the other hand there are the people who think and act guided only by their high ethical and social principles, dictating them to NEVER, EVER negotiate or ask a price. So ask yourself, are you an entrepreneur or are you puritan? Either way is fine. It is who you are. To the puritans, though, I will say this: if is fine to have your principles. Do not forget though, that you are about to commit an act that is entirely illegal in most states; an act that is viewed with deep suspicion, as a sin even, by most religious systems. Therefore, you are not only puritans, you are also hypocrites. Having said this, I hope you have fun and meet many people of your liking.

[Guest countryboywny]

Dam, you guys are still bickering about this.

 

I don't think this is bickering.. I didn't see any insults being launched..

 

It's a discussion that apparently strikes a chord with some people.

 

My usual MO is if I'm interested in an escort and I contact him, I will spell out all the information, who, what, when, where and how long.. and ask what the rate will be. Simple.

[+ SundayZip]

Now, If I were hiring (and I've had to check out other escorts for clients before)... my concerns would be as follows:

 

Do you have bad/any reviews at all? (bad = no unless there’s a good rebuttal)

Are you even available during the time I’m here? (no = no)

How well do you communicate and what do you reveal during our discussion? (poorly/1-word, etc = no)

What is your body type/what do you look like? (bad pics or not my taste = no)

What services do you offer/not offer? (certain things off the table = no)

 

And then finally... What is your rate?

 

 

Guys, I recommend you try my formula.

 

a = Do you have bad/any reviews at all? (each good review = 1 point)

b = Are you even available during the time I’m here? (yes = 1 point)

c = How well do you communicate and what do you reveal during our discussion? (from 1 to 10 points)

d = What is your body type/what do you look like? (from 1 to 10 points)

e = What services do you offer/not offer? (from 1 to 10 points)

 

Hire when b > 0 and (10 * (a+c+d+e) ) > (rate * .75).

[AdamSmith]

Guys, I recommend you try my formula.

Hire when b > 0 and (10 * (a+c+d+e) ) > (rate * .75).

 

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[Daverwr]

Gee...I just look in my wallet and go from there!

[+ Funguy]

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OMG! "Ask me" becomes a terrorist plot to blow up the world! LOL

[+ Funguy]

I am not a big proponet of the Ask Me rates. I have pretty much kept the same rates since the start of the recession in 2008. First hour is 150, 3 hours for 400, overnight for 600, and weekend for 1000. I think they are fair and reasonable rates for my time. I publish them whenever I post an ad. And, if you are a regular client, you get an even further reduced rate thanking you for having me back. Scott

 

So when are you coming to visit me?

[BSR]

Yes, it amazes me too. With limited or no chance that the PRO 'ask me' camp will convince the AGAINST 'ask me' camp, or the other way around. Because it boils down to who we really are, as a person. On one hand, you have the entrepreneurial, adventurous crowd that loves uncovering the hidden gem or the amazing deal. On the other hand there are the people who think and act guided only by their high ethical and social principles, dictating them to NEVER, EVER negotiate or ask a price. So ask yourself, are you an entrepreneur or are you puritan? Either way is fine. It is who you are. To the puritans, though, I will say this: if is fine to have your principles. Do not forget though, that you are about to commit an act that is entirely illegal in most states; an act that is viewed with deep suspicion, as a sin even, by most religious systems. Therefore, you are not only puritans, you are also hypocrites. Having said this, I hope you have fun and meet many people of your liking.

BaronArtz, you make a big assumption here, one that is incorrect, I believe. The reason I don't negotiate has nothing to do with puritanism, and it's baffling to me that you came to that conclusion. I treat escorts as I do all self-employed professionals, that is, I lay out what kind of service I'm looking for and then ask them what their fee would be for such a service. Of course, I never discuss money-for-sex specifics (please, give me that much credit), more something like "5-hour evening, about half at dinner or other activity, half back at the hotel room." If their price is OK with me, good to go. If it's too high, I thank them for their time and move on. I don't try to drive their stated fee down because in my experience, such "bargains" turn out to be no bargain at all because the escort feels like he's been shortchanged or gypped. I'd much rather pay $1,000 for a great experience than $750 and have to put up with resentment all night long.

[Steven_Draker]

Wasn't this topic under Ask an Escort section?

 

It still is.

 

It's up to the original poster to limit the responses to escorts only or to welcome input from both sides.

[Nvr2Thick]

Wasn't this topic under Ask an Escort section?

 

It seems as if the Ask an Escort section is often used to discuss the business of escorting. You can post similar questions in the Deli or the Lounge, but the Deli seems to concentrate on escorts themselves and escort questions seem a bit out of place in the Lounge. Fortunately the moderators don't sweat the small stuff.

[+ SundayZip]

Wasn't this topic under Ask an Escort section?

 

Killian, I understand your question but I'm not sure I really understand your question. Are you suggesting that more escorts should be posting to this thread? Or are you saying that there should be less postings from clients.

[Epigonos]

Well I guess it is time for me to chime in here. In ten plus years of hiring escorts I have 1.) never hired an escort for just one hour and 2.) never hired an escort for an overnight with whom I hadn't already spent time. Thus I have to ASK? I simply tell the escort what I'm looking for and ask if he is interested in such an arrangement and if so what his fee would be. It's that simple. If his fee is in my ballpark I proceed with setting up the get together. If his fee is beyond my budget I tell him exactly that and thank him for his time and wish him well. I NEVER haggle so if the escort responds with another price or asks what I am willing to pay I simply DO NOT respond.

[+ WhamIAm]

It still is.

 

It's up to the original poster to limit the responses to escorts only or to welcome input from both sides.[/color]

 

As the OP, I like these threads to be open to all. While it's titled "Ask an Escort" I think the conversations in these threads benefit from hearing as many opinions as folks are willing to share.

 

And, thanks for the interesting responses!

[LookingAround]

I must have missed the empirical evidence. What are the statistics again?

[+ quoththeraven]

I have a different question for Killian. How are statistics relevant? This is an issue of personal style and preference. I don't see how statistics help here.

[Guest countryboywny]

Well I guess it is time for me to chime in here. In ten plus years of hiring escorts I have 1.) never hired an escort for just one hour and 2.) never hired an escort for an overnight with whom I hadn't already spent time. Thus I have to ASK? I simply tell the escort what I'm looking for and ask if he is interested in such an arrangement and if so what his fee would be. It's that simple. If his fee is in my ballpark I proceed with setting up the get together. If his fee is beyond my budget I tell him exactly that and thank him for his time and wish him well. I NEVER haggle so if the escort responds with another price or asks what I am willing to pay I simply DO NOT respond.

 

+1

[Steven_Draker]

Ten Everyday Reasons Why Statistics Are Important

 

Statistics are sets of mathematical equations that are used to analyze what is happening in the world around us. You've heard that today we live in the Information Age where we understand a great deal about the world around us. Much of this information was determined mathematically by using statistics. When used correctly, statistics tell us any trends in what happened in the past and can be useful in predicting what may happen in the future.

 

Let's look at some examples of how statistics shape your life when you don't even know it.

 

1. Weather Forecasts

Do you watch the weather forecast sometime during the day? How do you use that information? Have you ever heard the forecaster talk about weather models? These computer models are built using statistics that compare prior weather conditions with current weather to predict future weather.

 

2. Emergency Preparedness

What happens if the forecast indicates that a hurricane is imminent or that tornadoes are likely to occur? Emergency management agencies move into high gear to be ready to rescue people. Emergency teams rely on statistics to tell them when danger may occur.

 

3. Predicting Disease

Lots of times on the news reports, statistics about a disease are reported. If the reporter simply reports the number of people who either have the disease or who have died from it, it's an interesting fact but it might not mean much to your life. But when statistics become involved, you have a better idea of how that disease may affect you.

 

For example, studies have shown that 85 to 95 percent of lung cancers are smoking related. The statistic should tell you that almost all lung cancers are related to smoking and that if you want to have a good chance of avoiding lung cancer, you shouldn't smoke.

 

4. Medical Studies

Scientists must show a statistically valid rate of effectiveness before any drug can be prescribed. Statistics are behind every medical study you hear about.

 

5. Genetics

Many people are afflicted with diseases that come from their genetic make-up and these diseases can potentially be passed on to their children. Statistics are critical in determining the chances of a new baby being affected by the disease.

 

6. Political Campaigns

Whenever there's an election, the news organizations consult their models when they try to predict who the winner is. Candidates consult voter polls to determine where and how they campaign. Statistics play a part in who your elected government officials will be

 

7. Insurance

You know that in order to drive your car you are required by law to have car insurance. If you have a mortgage on your house, you must have it insured as well. The rate that an insurance company charges you is based upon statistics from all drivers or homeowners in your area.

 

8. Consumer Goods

Wal-Mart, a worldwide leading retailer, keeps track of everything they sell and use statistics to calculate what to ship to each store and when. From analyzing their vast store of information, for example, Wal-Mart decided that people buy strawberry Pop Tarts when a hurricane is predicted in Florida! So they ship this product to Florida stores based upon the weather forecast.

 

9. Quality Testing

Companies make thousands of products every day and each company must make sure that a good quality item is sold. But a company can't test each and every item that they ship to you, the consumer. So the company uses statistics to test just a few, called a sample, of what they make. If the sample passes quality tests, then the company assumes that all the items made in the group, called a batch, are good.

 

10. Stock Market

Another topic that you hear a lot about in the news is the stock market. Stock analysts also use statistical computer models to forecast what is happening in the economy.

 

source: http://www.mathworksheetscenter.com/mathtips/statsareimportant.html