Should I raise my price?

[Griffin Donavon]

I'd like to take the time to get some feedback of what I have been thinking about for sometime. We're I am from I need to charge $180 were I am. When I go to Boston I charge the same thing to compete with the heavy supply of escorts. I am thinking about going to NYC, however my travel fees with that price I wouldn't make a lot. What are your opinions in raising my price in different areas? Of course clients I have had already I wouldn't change. I am worried about going to NYC and people hagging me about the price I charged others in smaller areas.. Opinions on how I should handle this?

 

Griffin

[hornytwells]

I think its totally ok to have your price in line with the competitive rate in the city you are in. if you are too much below guys start to question your credibility> On the other hand, if you are just a little lower, it might attract some new clients, but i would expect to pay guys the going rate in NYC, and only expect to see more if they are a "porn star? and are in the bracket that they can pick and choose their clients.

[JT Brooklyn]

Hello Goodlooking. Unfortunately NYC is a very Exspensive place to do Business. So unless you have a very low overhead which means a place to stay in Manhattan and you can do INCALLS it is not going to be a Money Maker for you.

 

Quite a few of the "Working Guys" donot consider NYC a good Money Maker unless they have Regular's when visiting to guarantee a Profit!

[+ Chris Eisenhower]

People generally aren't going to spend time haggling with you over price. They'll say: "okay, thanks" and just never contact you to book something. The key thing to remember isn't to raise your price to compete with the market, it's to charge what people are going to think you are worth. In NYC that's going to be difficult, and unless you have a great reputation or a bunch of reviews or offer something off-the-charts crazy good that people can't resist, you might as well go up there with the attitude of enjoying the city and breaking even, and keep the money-making at home.

[Xander]

My price is the same everywhere except NYC. I'm charging 240/hr in NYC.

[bigvalboy]

I think its totally ok to have your price in line with the competitive rate in the city you are in. if you are too much below guys start to question your credibility> On the other hand, if you are just a little lower, it might attract some new clients, but i would expect to pay guys the going rate in NYC, and only expect to see more if they are a "porn star? and are in the bracket that they can pick and choose their clients.

 

 

 

As a buyer I agree with HT on this one. If an escort is only charging 180 for escort services, I do question the credibility of the ad. 150-180 in LA and in FTL are really massage rates....Now 180 might be a little high for a massage and I probably would not pay that, but I think you can see what my line of thinking would be. I think that escort rates in the low 200's is very doable for you, despite a lack of reputation in the area. Like HT says, if you can come in at a little below what the local boys are charging, then clients will feel that they are getting a good deal.

 

Whatever you decide, I wish you the best in your endeavors...

[BaronArtz]

Hi Griffin - there is no link to your ad in your post so it is difficult for me to assess what your 'market value' is in NYC. Are you exceptionally cute? Do parts of your anatomy look unique? Are you willing to engage in activities that others don't? All these are important variables. Remember, NYC is a very competitive market with literally hundreds of escorts and masseurs offering their services. You will an angle need to attract the attention somehow. That angle could be price.

 

In the end, though, it is simple math. You can get fucked 4 times @ $180 or 3 times @ $240 and end up with the same amount of money in your pocket.

[bostonnycguy]

If you're going to raise your price in NYC you better get over your fright of giving head without a condom my friend. At NYC prices you'll be losing business with that stance - as I know you lost business in Boston because of your inability to suck cock without a rubber.

[humboldt]

Burrrrrr... it just got a lil' chilly in here.

[Griffin Donavon]

That will never happen, it's reasonable to not. My friend contracted HIV from doing that he had a cut in his mouth. I can afford lost business for my health ;-)

[Frequentflier]

I'm no expert on condoms but I imagine there are some connoisseurs on this board (joke). Question: is there a type that is maybe best suited to use with oral? Thinner, doesn't impede feeling/sensitivity, flavored like skin, etc (ok, enough of that - you hopefully get my question because I'm going to stop sounding like I'm fixated on this activity)? Maybe the right kind could make both the giver and receiver happy - and add an element of safety? Heck around here, theres probably bunches of guys who will line up to test real time and report back to us (no videos required....or refused) !

[jimboivyo]

That will never happen, it's reasonable to not. My friend contracted HIV from doing that he had a cut in his mouth. I can afford lost business for my health ;-)

 

i call bullshit. there are only a few known cases of that kind of transmission. it can happen but its unlikely

 

go read the cdc website. all there in b&w

[bostonnycguy]

This "head with a condom" thing is a confused "straight" guys' way to make sure he doesn't actually have to admit he's "sucking cock' - Me thinks that Dillon should stay in the provinces and not venture to Big Bad Manhattan on his own....no matter the price.

[bostonnycguy]

"It is very unlikely you have HIV. Your odds of getting HIV through performing oral sex on an HIV-positive male one time are about 1 in 10,000. Your odds of getting it by receiving oral sex are much lower than that." CDC

[bostonnycguy]

"My friend contracted HIV from doing that he had a cut in his mouth." What a great quote - I'd love to see some proof of that - again, easy way for someone to say they contracted HIV rather than admitting they had unprotected anal sex.

[Griffin Donavon]

This "head with a condom" thing is a confused "straight" guys' way to make sure he doesn't actually have to admit he's "sucking cock' - Me thinks that Dillon should stay in the provinces and not venture to Big Bad Manhattan on his own....no matter the price.

 

LOL, This isn't true at all. One of my friends in Washington, D.C. Gave me a book. Within this book has 300 pages filled with information for escorts. Just because I suck dick in my private time with a condom doesn't mean I'm straight, it means I have done my research and don't feel comfortable with doing it. There are escorts who don't even kiss. The majority of your posts are you trying to bash me because I want to be safe 0.o

[Newly]

Please quit pestering Griffen. He's not lying to anyone but has simply set boundaries that he feels comfortable with. He's not a fucking slave who deserves to be berated because some of us don't agree with those boundaries. It's ok to say why we disagree, but after that its his call. No one is forcing anyone to hire him. I actually think he's showing a lot of courage and guts and although I personally don't like the idea of condoms for oral, I really like the way this young man is handling this, it shows a lot of strength.

[BaronArtz]

Griffin-sweetie, I think it's just fine to have boundaries. But inevitably the time will come when you need to spread those precious ass cheeks of yours apart and have your lil' hole ... messed with. Are you OK with that?

[Becket]

BaronArtz assumes an escort must be a bottom in order to work in the business. I know plenty of hot guys I'd love to spend time with that never have their "lil hole messed with." Griffen asked a question and he gets dumped on. If this is how escorts are regularly treated here, this will indeed soon be a site just for clients. Escorts will have rightly moved on to friendlier skies.

[Guest davebk]

As the average customer type guy, I can tell you that I would not flinch knowing a guy was charging me more in NYC than he was in another city/town. It would make sense and I wouldn't judge you or be upset. It is a business, and you've got bills to pay.

db

[Xander]

"It is very unlikely you have HIV. Your odds of getting HIV through performing oral sex on an HIV-positive male one time are about 1 in 10,000. Your odds of getting it by receiving oral sex are much lower than that." CDC

 

And mind you --- this data comes from SURVEY data. The boy sucking cock who got HIV may have been doing a little more than sucking cock

 

Its very easy to receive other STDs from receiving head.

[down_to_business]

In general it will be easier on yourself to simply charge one rate. Different rates can be confusing to potential clients. If you have a business need to charge more for New York, then do it. If you just want to charge more because you see others charging more, then don't. In the end you have to be able to charge what you can afford to live with.

 

As to anyone telling you that you need to suck cock without a condom, I say bullshit. You need to set your own limits and live with the consequences. Don't ever let anyone talk you into giving up your own principles or offer you an extra $20 to get you to go past the limits you set. It is irrevelent if anyone else thinks its high risk or low risk- its your life and your decision.

 

As to your friend who contracted HIV from sucking cock, well if he did that sucks but he could have easily engaged in some other activity that more than likely was the real cause. Again that doesn't mean you should engage in anything that you don't feel comfortable doing.

 

Finally- please give us a link to your ads in your signature or profile. I am always on the lookout for someone new to meet that I find attractive, has principles, and charges reasonable rates.

 

All the best to you!

[jimboivyo]

LOL, This isn't true at all. One of my friends in Washington, D.C. Gave me a book. Within this book has 300 pages filled with information for escorts. Just because I suck dick in my private time with a condom doesn't mean I'm straight, it means I have done my research and don't feel comfortable with doing it. There are escorts who don't even kiss. The majority of your posts are you trying to bash me because I want to be safe 0.o

 

we bash wrong info, not you. learn the difference

 

300 pages. you talking about Aaron lawrences book? it's a bit dated. no one has written anytihng remotely like it since.

[William]

LOL, This isn't true at all. One of my friends in Washington, D.C. Gave me a book. Within this book has 300 pages filled with information for escorts. Just because I suck dick in my private time with a condom doesn't mean I'm straight, it means I have done my research and don't feel comfortable with doing it. There are escorts who don't even kiss. The majority of your posts are you trying to bash me because I want to be safe 0.o

 

Griffin, for what it is worth, here are some words from someone who has hired widely and has enjoyed the company of a variety of working guys.

 

The medical literature does indicate that HIV can be transmitted through oral sex, especially if the recipient has cuts in his mouth. Often cuts are not discernible. I suspect that bleeding gums can also be entry ways for infection. The risk of infection is much lower than for unprotected anal sex, but there is a risk. I do not believe Griffin should be criticized for erring on the side of caution here.

 

Nor should he be criticized for charging a higher price in a more upscale market like NYC; clients there have a lot more disposable income, and Griffin's attractiveness, youth, hot body, and cleanliness would be pluses for him in that upscale market. On the other hand, NYC also has hundreds of escorts competing for that upscale clientele. And an escort who will only perform oral with a condom will be at a competitive disadvantage in that market. Griffin, you might consider a lower charge than $300 if you do not get a lot of business.

 

On yet another hand (says the three-handed client), Griffin should be applauded for being honest and up-front about this limitation; it is material information for potential clients. I'd rather engage an honest and hott guy who requires a condom for oral than a dishonest and equally hott guy who does not. I might add, further, that many people who use condoms for oral sex have techniques that make it fun for the oral top. I enjoy kissing most of all (which is safer but does have some risks) and am happy to work with a hott buff guy like Griffin to do a lot of hott kissing, some sweaty roleplaying and wrestling, with condomed oral and perhaps anal. That said, I am an unusual client, but there are a lot of us out there.

[BaronArtz]

I enjoy kissing most of all (which is safer but does have some risks) and am happy to work with a hott buff guy like Griffin to do a lot of hott kissing, some sweaty roleplaying and wrestling, with condomed oral and perhaps anal. That said, I am an unusual client, but there are a lot of us out there.

 

I would generally speaking agree with what William said above. My only question is: do we know that Griffin is a 'hott buff guy' who is into 'sweaty roleplay and wrestling' and <GASP> 'perhaps anal'? Unless if I missed something, I haven't seen any ad with a portfolio of pictures yet ... nor have I seen a description of services. Does this 'Griffin' even exist?

 

And to those of you who feel like they must be the self-appointed 'Miss Manners' of this forum - in discussions here escorts WILL be judged on their appearance and sexual performance. If they don't have it already, it might be a good idea for them to develop a thick skin to deal with possible not-so-flattering comments. If they can't handle a sceptical comment, it's obvious they're in the wrong business. In which case they should develop a personality and learn to bake cookies.