Why so many complaints re:escorts & bad experiences when there are so many great esco

[biguy]

Why do we constantly see reports of bad encounters? I'm not talking about bad clients: some are just impossible to vet. i'm talking about clients' complaints.

 

Do they think with their Little Heads because the pix are hot? Tho not the best system, we do have reviews. They may not always be the most encompassing, detailing little more than sucking the dick was great and the fucking everlasting, but there are plenty of escorts who have reviews that are consistently positive over time and which do say things about personality and demeanor.

 

Some of the escorts' ads presage just what is going to happen and if you are not into pig shit, don't hire.

 

There are many instances on the forum when clients are asking about certain escorts and responses are about "taking the plunge." If you are going to be that person, don't complain when the encounter is not what it should be and that you are out hundreds (for sure) or even thousands of dollars and plane tickets because right off you decided to take a weekend, untested and sight unseen.

 

People say they are reluctant to write a bad review and be ostracized by fans of the escort. Bullshit! And while we are at it, if you are going to bellyache about how bad an encounter was, if it truly was unprofessional or anything other than bad chemistry, then say the escort's name so the winnowing out period can begin.

 

I have never had a bad encounter when I have used my Big Head to find an escort. I have had some which were not the best, but I can say that that was simply due to that little, intangible thing called chemistry and was not the fault of the escort nor would I give him a bad review.

 

So, guys, let's stop bellyaching and and actually get rid of those bad apples. This would probably help Xander in Atlanta a lot. He just might be able to organize some great escorts there.

 

Sorry for the rant...

[jimboivyo]

Why do we constantly see reports of bad encounters? I'm not talking about bad clients: some are just impossible to vet. i'm talking about clients' complaints.

 

Do they think with their Little Heads because the pix are hot? Tho not the best system, we do have reviews. They may not always be the most encompassing, detailing little more than sucking the dick was great and the fucking everlasting, but there are plenty of escorts who have reviews that are consistently positive over time and which do say things about personality and demeanor.

 

Some of the escorts' ads presage just what is going to happen and if you are not into pig shit, don't hire.

 

There are many instances on the forum when clients are asking about certain escorts and responses are about "taking the plunge." If you are going to be that person, don't complain when the encounter is not what it should be and that you are out hundreds (for sure) or even thousands of dollars and plane tickets because right off you decided to take a weekend, untested and sight unseen.

 

People say they are reluctant to write a bad review and be ostracized by fans of the escort. Bullshit! And while we are at it, if you are going to bellyache about how bad an encounter was, if it truly was unprofessional or anything other than bad chemistry, then say the escort's name so the winnowing out period can begin.

 

I have never had a bad encounter when I have used my Big Head to find an escort. I have had some which were not the best, but I can say that that was simply due to that little, intangible thing called chemistry and was not the fault of the escort nor would I give him a bad review.

 

So, guys, let's stop bellyaching and and actually get rid of those bad apples. This would probably help Xander in Atlanta a lot. He just might be able to organize some great escorts there.

 

Sorry for the rant...

 

 

agree and thanks for this Norma Rae moment for the day

[+ poolboy48220]

No matter how well reviewed, and how well discussed ahead of time, it doesn't always work. The Legendary Dave has nothing but stellar reviews; I read them, I talked to other forum members who raved about him, and Dave & I talked at length before I met him. We didn't click at all, it was a bad experience for both of us, to the extent where he said he'd rather not repeat it. I had some unrealistic expectations that it'd be impossible to have a less-than-amazing session with him. A review from someone else who didn't enjoy it that much might have made me think twice.

[corndog]

I agree... to a point.

 

Posts which just complain generally, with no specifics, are useless.

 

However, posts which warn of problems with specific escorts, or share a situation or scenario that we can learn to watch out for are the essential purpose of this site. If I can learn to avoid a bad situation by reading about someone else's misfortune, I'm extremely grateful.

[down_to_business]

yawn

[biguy]

Lol

[biguy]

Poolboy - did the fact that you didn't click mean that he did something unprofessional and warranted a bad review, name and all, or that you and he were not meant to be? An honest review of that may have helped. But this is not what I meant by weeding out the bad guys or thinking a bit (or not thinking) before you hire.

[Epigonos]

Have you ever had a mediocre meal at a restaurant you have eaten at for years and loved? – It happens. Have you ever had a mediocre meal at a restaurant a friend recommended and loves? – It happens. What do we do? – We move on and try again.

[hornytwells]

I was assuming poolboy meant that no matter how well reviewed someone is and how much you discuss in advance how it should go, there is no guarantee until you meet in the flesh that you are going to click> That is what I imagine is meant by taking a plunge> If someone takes a plunge based on no information whatsoever then I think its crazily risky, but even if researched etc there is nothing surefire until you meet a guy face to face

[biguy]

That's the difference between chemistry and being unprofessional. If poolboy thought he was unprofessional then a review saying so is in order. If it was simply chemistry and/or expectations then it's like Epigonos' restaurant.

 

Like corndog said, "If I can learn to avoid a bad situation by reading about someone else's misfortune, I'm extremely grateful." There really are a lot of bad situations which can be avoided.

[+ azdr0710]

hmmmm, maybe a lot of us come from old money....

 

when a member of old money goes to a restaurant, for example, and has some kind of bad experience, the traditional response is to say nothing and never return again...why draw attention to yourself when you have nothing to prove?....

 

some of us have heard of the old saying, "never complain, never explain".....explanations for the original source of this quote vary widely, from Katherine Hepburn to Henry Ford to Pollyanna-feel-good-self-help gurus....but I've heard the true source goes back to the old money robber barons of the late 19th century who didn't want to draw attention to their nefarious ways (and, thus, have to explain themselves later on)....

 

not saying we are robber barons, of course, but I bet a lot of the non-reviewing-non-complainers here on the board realized "chemistry" was the fault during the meet with that superstar celebrity escort and have simply moved on, feeling a review might only apply to themselves....

 

c'mon guys: it's not that complicated!....communicate well before the meet (including being honest about expectations), be respectful and relaxed, don't take it too seriously, have fun, listen, the whole bit....but if the escort or the client are on opposite ends of the Periodical Table, well, that's Chemistry 101....

[Diverdan]

Excellent point, Azdr... in this business, chemistry is everything.... or almost everything. At least as I look back over the years, those situations that were not what I would have liked were about 85% due to lack of chemistry, 5% due to me and the other 10% to the other person, IMHO.

[buckguy]

For most of us, this is not an inepensive luxury like getting a complicated drink at Starbucks or an overpriced cupcake from a place like Magnolia or Georgetown Cupckae (which has block long lines even in the worst weather), so of course, there are complaints. A bad experience also sometimes involves a real assault on many guys' sense of themselves--esp. as none of us will get younger and some have physical features they wish they could lose. This isn't buying a can of tomatos at the supermarkey, this is an expensive occasion hich makes people feel vulnerable. This is a fantasy purchase--guys are hoping for something that they won't get from a random hook-up or an anxious date, although the specifics may vary (some want a bit of intimacy, others want atheltic sex orf one sort or another or an elaborate scene to satisfy some personal kink). If the fantasy doesn't happen, it's a big disappointment--sometimes the expectations may be too great, other times, it may be a lackluster performance.

 

When someone syas this isn't working and does it in a business like way (having met Dave, I'm assuming that's how it happened), it's better than some other experiences. The stars I've not connected with were Tony Cummings (late stage of his career totally mechanical--his fault, I think; I should have rolled my eyes and left--others had similar experiences with him) and Heath Jordan (couldn't figure out what it was, but the vibe from him was surprisingly vunerable and not a very intimidating guy).

 

It can helpful to have a negative review or one based on chemistry esp. if there is enough info to inform someone else. I once hired someone with all stellar reviews except one, where the guy was not connecting. I had an experience like the latter one--it was near the end of the guy's career and he was enough of a "mensch" to want to reset the clock literally. It was clear from our discussion that it was time for him to change a lot of things in his life including his occupation.

[+ poolboy48220]

Poolboy - did the fact that you didn't click mean that he did something unprofessional and warranted a bad review, name and all, or that you and he were not meant to be? An honest review of that may have helped. But this is not what I meant by weeding out the bad guys or thinking a bit (or not thinking) before you hire.

 

Nothing unprofessional at all. It was a bondage session that got much more intense and much more personal than I wanted it to. I felt belittled, and kind of crappy about myself, personally and physically, for a while after that. Which may be what a lot of clients are looking for in a bdsm session, after all - just not me. For me, it's all about loss of control, not humilation.

 

It's given me some experience, knowing things to bring up specifically as likes & dislikes, for any future sessions. My point in bringing it up in this thread was that I had thought we had done that due diligence ;-) prior to the session, and that was colored by the reviews/comments that he was able to read everyone *else's* expectations so well.

[hornytwells]

Buckguy, interesting what you say about heath Jordan, he has been on my wish list for a while> I like vulnerable-do you just mean you were looking for a dominant aggressive top and he wasnt that?

[gallahadesquire]

Buckguy, interesting what you say about heath Jordan, he has been on my wish list for a while> I like vulnerable-do you just mean you were looking for a dominant aggressive top and he wasnt that?

 

Interestingly, Heath Jordan's blog spot is no longer up. Is he still escorting?

[operalover21]

Because it's human nature to want to complain, rather than compliment. And often it's far more interesting!

[buckguy]

Interestingly, Heath Jordan's blog spot is no longer up. Is he still escorting?

 

He hasn't been advertising asmuch lately, although he was in DC dueing MAL. He also seems less omnipresent in porn. Perhaps he's been making a slow exit.

 

Buckguy, interesting what you say about heath Jordan, he has been on my wish list for a while> I like vulnerable-do you just mean you were looking for a dominant aggressive top and he wasnt that?

 

Not really. Vulnerable in a way that would be nice on a date but not in a brief encounter.

[bigvalboy]

Excellent point, Azdr... in this business, chemistry is everything.... or almost everything. At least as I look back over the years, those situations that were not what I would have liked were about 85% due to lack of chemistry, 5% due to me and the other 10% to the other person, IMHO.

 

Two things: One I agree 100% with azdr. My first response from a negative experience is to just move on. If I get a bad meal at restaurant that I have frequented in the past, I never go back. Very simple. Too many good restaurants out there. Same with an escort. I won't repeat a bad encounter, even if it was just chemistry, I won't try again. I try to cover all my bases, but when someone recommends an escort, I listen very carefully to every word, and try to get a sense of what the encounter will be like. If I have any, even the slightest misgivings, I will pass. Same when I am communicating with an escort, if I don't get the sense that they are genuinely interested in meeting me or having the hire go through, I will cancel or not book. This stuff is pretty simple really, at least from my view point. As azdr say...be respectful, relax, have fun, and don't take it all so seriously.

[jawjateck]

I probably take a few more chances hiring newbies/unreviewed guys than the average commentator here. Most attempts go nowhere (e.g. no meeting takes place). Occasionally, I meet the guy and it's just blah. Oh well, no need to complain, and I don't, because I know this is a risk/reward hobby. Then, on occasion, one of these newbies just wows me. That's why I keep hiring, because after 13 years, the well-trodden path of "recommended" reviews is just not all that exciting any more. I enjoy discovering new talent.

[biguy]

So many interesting and varied responses that I did not expect to get. Tho I guess i did rant a bit, I was truly referring to those escorts/experiences that were not simply incompatibility, chemistry, misunderstandings, someone having a bad day when most others are great. I was really referring to misrepresentations, especially after they are in print OR verbally discussed, dangerous situations, chronic no shows, demands for payments when services were not as advertised. Many of those are talked about in general terms but why does everybody shy away from names.(notable exception - Bo Dean). These are the guys who give the profession (no, I'm a client) a black eye and we, the client can help weed them out. People are afraid of writing a BAD review? Come on, that's what reviews are really for.

 

I first started hiring in 2006 - had a few bad experiences in a row and decided it was not for me. In 2012, things changed - now

I hire for fun and fun I've had. If I want and change from my regulars, I always check the reviews, always speak to the escort and, when I have time, I check in here. Maybe it doesn't always work for everyone,I don't know. Even when I follow my rules, I have pulled back from a hire if I just got a gut feeling. I know I have probably missed some great times...I probably have missed a few not so great times...when it happens and I'm still in the mood, I call one of my favorites and have a spectacular time!