Bad Reviews of Popular Escorts

[IntoHotGuys]

I asked him why he didn't write a review up and talk about it and his response was, "I didn't want [escort's name] fan club to gang up on me."

 

Well. I reported a situation with an escort that involved the hotel calling the cops and was maligned as being mean. And it was not from that escort fan boys, mind you. If you have your report published to be ganged up on by the fan boys, you're very lucky. The review section of this web site IS A JOKE! The only thing valuable about this web site is the forum and only for info about new escorts. So many new escorts popping up all over the place and there is no way you can find out about them all unless you check on the forums. That's all this web site is good for. If you come here for the performance review, you're OUT OF YOUR MIND.

[bigvalboy]

I disagree, it is not that simple. I think you are talking about a simple disagreement or lack of chemistry. Some here were referring to a more egregious encounter. In which case I doubt that members here would be willing to move on quite so easily. The popular escorts still have their fan base and I doubt would allow a negative review to stand without challenge. Like it or not, this is a pretty petty place to do business.

[instudiocity]

Seems to me everyone needs to take a deep breath and remember the separation so wisely installed by Daddy. You can write a negative review of a popular escort star and then IGNORE any threads started by the naysayers and their sycophantic love for said stellar escort. Daddy's Reviews and the Message-Forum are separated by web addresses, .com and .net, and are merely linked for our convenience. Many read the reviews while only a few venture to the forum.

 

So if you've been wronged, write the damn review. If you wrote an Amazing Review of a guy who turned out to be less than Amazing the second, third or fifty-first visit, WRITE THE DAMN REVIEW.

 

And if you don't know how to IGNORE a thread, WRITE THE DAMN REVIEW and I'm sure you'll learn to ignore a thread quickly enough.

 

The integrity of the review site is in the motto of the site - which I can't seem to find right this minute - but requires honesty in our reporting... failing to report tends to be more dishonest, don't cha think?

[operalover21]

One thing that I've noticed is that even with a very popular escort, you may not have a great time. In fact, it may go disastrously bad.

 

Do you feel pressure NOT to do a review? I was speaking to someone privately about a very, very popular escort and he told me, "It was just plain awful. The escort was late, rude and then..." and he told me about a very, very serious incident that occurred.

 

I asked him why he didn't write a review up and talk about it and his response was, "I didn't want [escort's name] fan club to gang up on me."

 

Do you feel like we may not be hearing everything that goes on simply because of peer pressure?

 

I'm guessing that most people's answer would probably be "yes." Very few people want to swim against the tide. Of course, then there are those who are just lying in wait to write a bad review of a popular guy. We all know those types, sadly.

[LookingAround]

I would really plead with people to write up their experience, even if they think its an issue of chemistry, because that could be the case for someone else, too. This counters the "fan club" mentality. Although I've found some good escorts via comments here, I have been really disappointed in a few of the board pets/favorites....and I was so surprised because people sang their praises loud and clear. I couldn't imagine what happened. Had I heard a dissenting voice or two, it would have balanced my decision to hire them, perhaps.

[Epigonos]

This topic is one that continually reappears on this site. I realize, thought I don’t understand, that some of the posters here are “too emotionally fragile” to withstand the written onslaught they “might” have to endure if they were to write a negative review of a popular escort. If that is indeed the case then they should most definitely NOT write negative reviews, and should NOT complain about being unable to do so. I guess in the end I am just an insensitive SOB because I really don’t give a shit what 90%+ of the posters on this site think of me or of what I write and don’t understand why anybody else should care as well.

 

In my ten years of hiring escorts I have been extremely fortunate. I have NEVER felt threatened or cheated by an escort. Now I have experienced some mediocre sessions with a few well regarded escorts. In those cases I have felt and continue to feel that a negative review was not warranted. Lack of chemistry might have been the problem, the escort might have been having a bad day OR I might have been having a bad day. I do not complain to the escort and I certainly do not expect him to provide another session gratis in an attempt to “rectify” the situation. I simply move on and accept the fact that everything in this world isn’t going to meet my definition of perfect.

[operalover21]

I don't think it has anything to do with being "emotionally fragile." That would be the last thing I would think it would be. I think some people don't want to deal with the abuse they'd get from anonymous people on the internet (that's never bothered me I might add -- this isn't real life -- I don't know any of these people).

 

Also, I think people who use "one" identity here and another to leave a review are what we call COWARDS. If you're not willing to take the good and the bad that goes with posting a review then you should get out of Dodge.

 

Some have been lucky they haven't been cheated by an escort. It's happened to me 4 or 5 times (and I include things like they didn't look like their pictures). But I've probably had HUNDREDS of good experiences. But recently it happened, for the first time, with someone I'd seen several times before and it left me non-plussed. In my overthinking I'm probably also thinking that I'm not ready to jump in with a bad review -- after my positive one -- because I'm sort of hoping he'll make amends or offer some explanation. It hasn't happened so far but you never know. I don't want to do something to harm his reputation if something was up with him during that visit. I may come across as an asshole on these boards but when it comes to something real like that I'm not willing to harm someone's rep until enough time has passed and they've done nothing to make it right ....

[MscleLovr]

"recently it happened, for the first time, with someone I'd seen several times before and it left me non-plussed"

 

FWIW operalover, a similar thing happened to me. I'd already had 3 successful sessions of a couple of hours each with a guy when he said he'd like to stay overnight (off-the-clock) on our 4th date. He came over the following week, and did so. All was fine early on but after dinner he went to the bathroom, where I believe he ingested some drugs. Instantly, his behaviour became highly odd and he started making threats. With some difficulty, I threw him out. This incident brought home to me that this industry attracts some very unstable people and it's best to be wary.

[IntoHotGuys]

... “too emotionally fragile” ... I really don’t give a shit what 90%+ of the posters on this site think of me or of what I write and don’t understand why anybody else should care as well.

 

You're lucky you didn't piss off the "right" person. Or maybe you've learned not to. After a few "infractions" and threats of being kicked off the forum, one will soon learn to keep quiet and laugh at the JOKE that is the review section. It's has nothing to do with "emotionally fragile". It's just being practical. After all the forum is still an invaluable place to learn about new escorts. Other than that, this whole web site is a JOKE.

[Epigonos]

Having posted on this site now for over ten years I know of NO ONE who was banned from the site simply because of a negative review of a popular escort. If I am wrong will someone please enlighten me. I do, however, recall that posters have been banned because they insisted on getting into a pissing match regarding a negative review.

[JT Brooklyn]

Having posted on this site now for over ten years I know of NO ONE who was banned from the site simply because of a negative review of a popular escort. If I am wrong will someone please enlighten me. I do, however, recall that posters have been banned from the site because they insisted on getting into a pissing match regarding a negative review.

 

Neither have I ? There have been those who decided to skip the Review Process and just comment on their experience which for obvious reasons is a No-No...

 

 

BUT that does not give any Working Guy a Fair Playing Field regarding his Response and leaves the Chit Chat Sessions wide Open!

[rvwnsd]

...I realize, thought I don’t understand, that some of the posters here are “too emotionally fragile” to withstand the written onslaught they “might” have to endure if they were to write a negative review of a popular escort...

 

I think the OP's use of the term "emotionally fragile" was an unfortunate choice of words. One does not need to be emotionally fragile to be bothered by the pillorying that is often directed at a poster who expresses an other-than-widely-shared opinion. The desire to avoid rioting in the streets could be enough to dissuade someone from writing a negative review of a beloved escort, regardless whether they are bothered the rioting.

[corndog]

As much as I was dismayed by the rash of time-outs last month, I have noticed that things are a lot more civil here lately. So, let's get over the petty behavior of the past and recognize that a diversity of opinions seems to be more graciously accepted here now.

[+ ArVaGuy]

Having posted on this site now for over ten years I know of NO ONE who was banned from the site simply because of a negative review of a popular escort. If I am wrong will someone please enlighten me. I do, however, recall that posters have been banned because they insisted on getting into a pissing match regarding a negative review.

 

Having also been on this site for ten plus years I will corroborate Epigonos and Brooklyn Guy in regard to this particular issue. No one has ever been banned or timed-out for writing a negative review. Posters, as BG notes, have been sent to the woodshed for becoming extreme in reactions to negative reviews, or positive ones for that matter.

 

I am also in the camp of "Write the damn review" and will add "Or quit bellyaching damnit."

 

Submit the review under a different handle, which is how I handle mine and surely many of the posters with greater experience around here have done for years. On two occasions I've submitted reviews that became subject for comment and have just let the issues slide. Once in a particularly lively thread I stepped in and took full credit for the review. The commentary died down soon there after.

 

In March of 1999 I hired a guy in Atlanta (sorry Xander) named Nick. This guy had some really hot pictures and looked like a bodybuilder in his ads that appeared in Advocate Classifieds. (Yes kids, there was a time escorts advertised in old print media.) In his pictures he looked hot but was not so much when we met up. This was an in-call at his place. We were supposed to do a scene involving a blindfold and all seemed good early on. Then once things got going this escort went totally psycho. He slammed me up against a wall, banged my head into it, started cursing and calling me all sorts of names and making very violent threats. Before long I was on the floor in pain and tears as this guy is demanding the contents of my wallet and then some. Oh, he kicked me and stepped on my hand too. He took me to the tune of $500 and would have gotten more if I'd not been able to convince him he had gotten all my money. I have never been that frightened since and that includes being robbed at gunpoint in DC five blocks from the White House.

 

I made a lot of newbie mistakes in that hire and recognize them very easily to this day. It was not long after that incident that Hooboy created this site and sometime in late 2000 or early 2001 I found it. Clearly this site has been a godsend to me and many others over the years. Only through the shared experiences of the posters here can the clients AND escorts obtain the knowledge and learn to hire the best quality and choose the better clients.

 

There are many reasons to choose to submit or not to submit a review. I have had situations where my life has just been too busy and before long several months have passed. No use submitting a review for long passed encounter after a few weeks. I've submitted negative reviews which fortunately have been far out weighed by the positive ones. Hired the well known and popular guys and had good and not so good experiences with them. In one case submitted a very glowing review for a well known escort and then had a bad encounter with him on our next meeting. Gave him another shot and guess what? It was fantastic. It's luck of the draw sometimes.

 

It is just down right silly IMHO to be fearful of the escort fan clubs on this message board. As well as the obsessive-compulsive escort lynch mobs and their sock puppets for that matter. If you are going to be fearful of the comments of this gaggle of aging queens with a lot of time on their hands, you are taking them way too seriously. (That's a joke guys but you know who you are .)

 

So to reiterate, write the damn review or quit bellyaching damnit. OK?

[+ ArVaGuy]

I think the OP's use of the term "emotionally fragile" was an unfortunate choice of words. One does not need to be emotionally fragile to be bothered by the pillorying that is often directed at a poster who expresses an other-than-widely-shared opinion. The desire to avoid rioting in the streets could be enough to dissuade someone from writing a negative review of a beloved escort, regardless whether they are bothered the rioting.

 

Good point. But I'm going to have to agree with the idiom: "If you can't stand the heat, get out of the kitchen." So what if a review or comment does not agree with widely shared opinion? Let's not take ourselves or this subject matter too seriously here. We are after all just discussing the exchange of money for sex for all intents and purposes. A simple business transaction.

 

If people are too emotionally fragile, yes - there's that unfortunate choice of words, to get upset of over what others on this or any other message board say then get some help. How do these people handle criticism in the real world then? Don't tell me they've never faced criticism at work or among family or friends. People are coddled so much these days out of fear of what someone might say its gotten ridiculous.

 

Worried about criticism for a negative review, fine. Don't submit one none of us would be the wiser. But then don't complain about the negativity and fear of fan clubs and other posters by announcing "I'd submit a negative review of [insert popular escort name here] but I'm afraid of the negative reaction. That's taking an easy way out of the whole situation. There's two sides of every story and the policy here is to give the escort an opportunity to respond to the officially posted review. Reviews are not allowed on the message board and for good reason as we have seen over the years. And still there will be those who will attempt to post a review rather than submit one through proper channels.

 

As soon as I see one of these threads the first thing that comes to mind is to wonder about the escort response be to such a review. Perhaps there's more to this story than the poster want's shared and its fear of the escort reply, not so much the fan club, that drives these situations.

[jawjateck]

After all the forum is still an invaluable place to learn about new escorts. Other than that, this whole web site is a JOKE.

 

While the review site and forum have their limitations, both are useful tools for guys that hire. I use both of them equally to make hiring decisions, but I also discount most of the info contained herein. Over-reliance on forum comments is folly, because I have no reason to believe that many of the posters discussing escorts actually hire escorts. I only weigh the reviews and forum comments of posters I know, I've met, I've followed them long enough to know they actually hire AND have good taste in men. A forum thread about a newbie may spark my interest, but I only take heed to the commentary on the provider if it is offered by a reputable client. I regard all other comments as noise.

[Decatur Guy]

I can't imagine spending a lot of money to hire an escort, having a bad experience and then being afraid to post it because other people on here would get mad at me. So what if they do? That hurts me how? Isn't that the whole purposed of this site -- report on the good experiences and the bad ones so we can make the most informed decision possible?

 

I haven't written a negative review because I haven't had a negative experience. I have had several so-so / OK / lukewarm encounters and chose not to write anything. But it wasn't out of fear of reaction to people on here. It was because I didn't want to hurt the business of someone who really didn't do anything particularly wrong. I do wonder if I should re-examine that. Maybe an OK experience is a valuable thing to also share.

[operalover21]

I can't imagine spending a lot of money to hire an escort, having a bad experience and then being afraid to post it because other people on here would get mad at me. So what if they do? That hurts me how? Isn't that the whole purposed of this site -- report on the good experiences and the bad ones so we can make the most informed decision possible?

 

I haven't written a negative review because I haven't had a negative experience. I have had several so-so / OK / lukewarm encounters and chose not to write anything. But it wasn't out of fear of reaction to people on here. It was because I didn't want to hurt the business of someone who really didn't do anything particularly wrong. I do wonder if I should re-examine that. Maybe an OK experience is a valuable thing to also share.

 

Maybe try a little more imagination?

[operalover21]

 

 

 

So to reiterate, write the damn review or quit bellyaching damnit. OK?

 

Is anything in life ever that black or white?

[seeker630]

I can't imagine spending a lot of money to hire an escort, having a bad experience and then being afraid to post it because other people on here would get mad at me. So what if they do? That hurts me how? Isn't that the whole purposed of this site -- report on the good experiences and the bad ones so we can make the most informed decision possible?

 

I haven't written a negative review because I haven't had a negative experience. I have had several so-so / OK / lukewarm encounters and chose not to write anything. But it wasn't out of fear of reaction to people on here. It was because I didn't want to hurt the business of someone who really didn't do anything particularly wrong. I do wonder if I should re-examine that. Maybe an OK experience is a valuable thing to also share.

 

Your comments about reviewing 'so-so' encounters resonated with me, because i have been thinking about someone else who said they didn't review when they had less-than stellar sessions with widely-acclaimed escorts because it might just be a matter of an 'off' day or lack of chemistry. I can think of 2 sessions I had with well-reviewed escorts that didn't live up to expectations; in neither case did i write a review.

 

In hindsight, I think I should have. I think you can write a balanced review that lays out the positives as well as the things that disappointed you. If you think chemistry was lacking, perhaps you can give some insight as to what personalities or types might be problematic for the escort. (I always pay attention to the client's self-description and also his preferences & expectations as expressed in the narrative - if they're similar to my own, I have greater confidence in the predictive value of the review.)

 

Another point about an escort who may have just been having an 'off day' - if no one reviews, we may not realize that someone has burnt out & been having 'off days' pretty consistently for a while!

[Decatur Guy]

Your comments about reviewing 'so-so' encounters resonated with me, because i have been thinking about someone else who said they didn't review when they had less-than stellar sessions with widely-acclaimed escorts because it might just be a matter of an 'off' day or lack of chemistry. I can think of 2 sessions I had with well-reviewed escorts that didn't live up to expectations; in neither case did i write a review.

 

In hindsight, I think I should have. I think you can write a balanced review that lays out the positives as well as the things that disappointed you. If you think chemistry was lacking, perhaps you can give some insight as to what personalities or types might be problematic for the escort. (I always pay attention to the client's self-description and also his preferences & expectations as expressed in the narrative - if they're similar to my own, I have greater confidence in the predictive value of the review.)

 

Another point about an escort who may have just been having an 'off day' - if no one reviews, we may not realize that someone has burnt out & been having 'off days' pretty consistently for a while!

 

You know, I'm really starting to rethink that policy. I just might start weighing in even if something is between Pretty Good and Kind of Bad.

[+ WilliamM]

Defending Reviews in The days of D.C. and Palm Springs Weekends

 

I posted my first review here in 2000 (mostly positive review of then Falcon porn star Billy Brandt, who lived close by). Not having a screen name, I used a variation of my address. That review, and subsequent reviews I posted, are no longer around. That's too bad because most of those early reviews here (not just mine) were quite even handed. If I hired an escort with six or seven reviews, the positive and negative were often included in most reviews...those comments were remarkably accurate.

 

Since joining the forum, I would never post a review under my screen name. That's because I have noticed the intense devotion that many escorts enjoy here (those escorts who attend the Palm Springs and Washington weekends are the latest examples, but there are plenty more). Some people upthread called using different names cowardly. That gave me the biggest laugh I have ever had on the Internet. Image, if you can, the reaction you would get if you posted a negative review w/ your screen name of someone like Benjamin Nicholas (Ben: I love you; you're great and could never possible do anything wrong in any moment of your life---okay I'm a liar, since I have never met Mr. Nicholas). In other words, I am not spending any of my time defending my review of a 'Working Guy.'

[bigvalboy]

I posted my first review here in 2000 (mostly positive review of then Falcon porn star Billy Brandt, who lived close by).

 

Unbelievable!! This just stopped me in my tracks today. You lucky lucky dog!! I am hoping that anyway. Please tell me that it was wonderful...If not, I don't want to know, for fear of ruining the fantasy.

[KMEM]

Is anything in life ever that black or white?

 

No, but we can try to make it so, can't we?

 

Best regards,

KMEM

[tyro]

I want to reiterate how important communication and vigilance are for both the client and the escort during an encounter. The first time I hired, the escort was ready to enter me and asked if I was OK. I was facing away from him and assumed he had put on a condom. When I said I was OK, I thought I was answering this question: Are you ready for me to get inside of you? He was asking this question: Are you ready for me to get inside you raw? We talked about that afterward. This particular escort has had a vasectomy, gets tested regularly, and is STD-free, but what if he weren't? What if that assumption had cost me my health? No amount of blame or finger-pointing would have helped me.

 

The second time I saw this escort (yes, I did go back, and yes, I did let him bareback me with my knowledge and consent) ended very, very badly for both of us. It was a role-play gone wrong. We both threw each other up against every rough emotional edge we had. Such an experience can be healing and cathartic, but it wasn't for me. I started to do something that could have seriously injured or killed both of us. At that point, he told me he had to drop me as a client. I have told a few people privately what I did; I have no idea if he has.

 

It's been over a year since that appointment. There is no point of writing a review. What am I going to say? He got mean and I got dangerous? There is, however, a point in writing this: We can never really know another's true intentions. For a year, I berated both myself and him for what happened that night.The other day, he was alerted to this thread and immediately contacted me. I was finally able to talk about it. I do believe now that he meant me no harm and was doing his best for someone who needed something more than and/or different from what he could give. It was a hard conversation to have. But it was healing.

 

Some of you know this escort. Some don't. If I have caused him pain, I apologize for that. I am better off -- and a better woman -- for having known him.

Tyro

PS Because this experience also applies to the "barebacking" thread, I have posted this message there also.