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To sit on the sidelines and watch the EOY farce play out... and by farce, you know I mean this year's "winner" being a better escort than... I don't know... ANYONE.

 

But... I thought... it's been well over two years since he no showed me ... 3... count 'em... 3 times... and then proceeded to lie about it here and threaten me if I talked about it here... (Oh and please, please, please deny that.. still have the emails)... so, I should just let it go... because now he has the much lauded Rik who can get his once very unprofessional ass on a plane. So maybe, maybe he has grown and has become the decent and reliable escort that his minions report him to be....

 

Hell... I didn't even chime in when he had the balls to try and console Rod.... a nice gesture, I guess, but that's like Pamela Sue Anderson giving a pep talk to Meryl Streep. Seriously.

 

But when he again had the nuts to talk about his dancers that "don't show up"... about "selling a client" and not showing up.. etc, etc, etc..... well, that was that.... Vomit.

 

Oh well.. congrats to him.... he obviously makes a lot of you out there happy with his "sucking and fucking".... but I think the real kudos should go to ... umm...

 

Daddy.... the only vote that counts.

 

Okie

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Two years ago Christmas, i had a no show experience with an escort. You had previously and have subsequently extolled his virtues . Negative experiences linger it is true. But as they quickly say in a breathy soft voice in car commercials, your mileage may vary.

 

I have not hired Mr. Baldwin, but i agree with you in that "he obviously makes a lot of you out there happy..."

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Two years ago Christmas, i had a no show experience with an escort. You had previously and have subsequently extolled his virtues . Negative experiences linger it is true. But as they quickly say in a breathy soft voice in car commercials, your mileage may vary.

 

I have not hired Mr. Baldwin, but i agree with you in that "he obviously makes a lot of you out there happy..."

 

Everyone has a bad experience with a well-known escort that everyone else extolls. It happens. People make mistakes. I'm not sure that that means that someone should be bad-mouting that escort/person for all eternity. There should be a statute of limitations on bitching.

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To sit on the sidelines and watch the EOY farce play out... and by farce, you know I mean this year's "winner" being a better escort than... I don't know... ANYONE.

 

But... I thought... it's been well over two years since he no showed me ... 3... count 'em... 3 times... and then proceeded to lie about it here and threaten me if I talked about it here... (Oh and please, please, please deny that.. still have the emails)... so, I should just let it go... because now he has the much lauded Rik who can get his once very unprofessional ass on a plane. So maybe, maybe he has grown and has become the decent and reliable escort that his minions report him to be....

 

Hell... I didn't even chime in when he had the balls to try and console Rod.... a nice gesture, I guess, but that's like Pamela Sue Anderson giving a pep talk to Meryl Streep. Seriously.

 

But when he again had the nuts to talk about his dancers that "don't show up"... about "selling a client" and not showing up.. etc, etc, etc..... well, that was that.... Vomit.

 

Oh well.. congrats to him.... he obviously makes a lot of you out there happy with his "sucking and fucking".... but I think the real kudos should go to ... umm...

 

Daddy.... the only vote that counts.

 

Okie

 

Everyone has a bad experience with a well-known escort that everyone else extolls. It happens. People make mistakes. I'm not sure that that means that someone should be bad-mouting that escort/person for all eternity. There should be a statute of limitations on bitching.

 

Personally, I think I could get past a no-show. I think I would have a much harder time letting go the being threatened not to talk about it part. For what its worth, I believe the OP. I also believe that the EOY makes a lot of people happy. Most of all I believe kudos should go to Daddy. It's difficult to continuously herd cats and put up with our temper tantrums.

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To sit on the sidelines and watch the EOY farce play out... and by farce, you know I mean this year's "winner" being a better escort than... I don't know... ANYONE.

 

But... I thought... it's been well over two years since he no showed me ... 3... count 'em... 3 times... and then proceeded to lie about it here and threaten me if I talked about it here... (Oh and please, please, please deny that.. still have the emails)... so, I should just let it go... because now he has the much lauded Rik who can get his once very unprofessional ass on a plane. So maybe, maybe he has grown and has become the decent and reliable escort that his minions report him to be....

 

Hell... I didn't even chime in when he had the balls to try and console Rod.... a nice gesture, I guess, but that's like Pamela Sue Anderson giving a pep talk to Meryl Streep. Seriously.

 

But when he again had the nuts to talk about his dancers that "don't show up"... about "selling a client" and not showing up.. etc, etc, etc..... well, that was that.... Vomit.

 

Oh well.. congrats to him.... he obviously makes a lot of you out there happy with his "sucking and fucking".... but I think the real kudos should go to ... umm...

 

Daddy.... the only vote that counts.

 

Okie

 

Indubidably! Daddy the only Vote that really counts! We all have our own "Working Guy" of the Year after all is said and done.

 

I never thought that Daddys "Free Marketing" was anymore than 10% of a Guys Income anyways!

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Everyone has a bad experience with a well-known escort that everyone else extolls. It happens. People make mistakes. I'm not sure that that means that someone should be bad-mouting that escort/person for all eternity. There should be a statute of limitations on bitching.

 

I think the experience was worth reporting. It's additional data to be considered by anyone considering a hire.

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I really, really tried....really....To sit on the sidelines

 

We see how well that went.

 

he obviously makes a lot of you out there happy

 

Year after year, we hear the same old dissonant chorus about the silly Escort of the Year award. Many think it's folly, while many cling to the fantasy of a prestigious contest produced by an elite club of gentlemen voters. One can only assume the owner likes it, especially since a vocal minion is on record recommending it end.

 

Daddy.... the only vote that counts.

 

The buck always starts and stops at the top. One doesn't need to "place" a vote to provide a vote of endorsement for the entire fantasy game.

 

Personally, I could care less. If I want a serious contest, I'll watch repeats of RuPaul's Drag Race. ;-) But nobody whines quite like Okie, and I find his whines an entertaining read.

 

The bottom line for me: when your wallet is burned by someone you trust, it's possible to forgive but impossible to forget. Note to escorts: If you fuck with a client's investment in you, you better make amends. Otherwise, the bad PR may just follow you everywhere, like permanent shit on your shoes.

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A bit puzzled, if Noah Driver had been named EOY, would we be so quiet regarding his past? I think not, but who knows he may very well end up in the running for next years EOY. Noah's problems are also two years old. So should there be a statute of limitations on threatening a client? To me that is a big no-no and to me a permanent black mark. Do no-shows count? A no show also costs a client money as what Noah Driver did. Do escorts mature and grow out of bad habits? Absolutely. Again the complaint is not from some newbie, does that have any weight or not? If a gentleman gives STD or worse would that count against him? Just trying to get a feel for what your limits may be.

 

So I have no answers just questions. Maybe it is best to just close the Deli section if discussion of gentlemen is not be considered any more.

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There's no excuse for an escort not to show up for an appointment, of if something came up, call the day after to apologize and rescheduled.

 

I know we live in a society full of entitlements, but it's common sense to show up on time or if something came up: fall asleep, got another call, didn't feel in the mood, accident, bad family news, at least say it the day after.

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To sit on the sidelines and watch the EOY farce play out... and by farce, you know I mean this year's "winner" being a better escort than... I don't know... ANYONE.

 

But... I thought... it's been well over two years since he no showed me ... 3... count 'em... 3 times... and then proceeded to lie about it here and threaten me if I talked about it here... (Oh and please, please, please deny that.. still have the emails)... so, I should just let it go... because now he has the much lauded Rik who can get his once very unprofessional ass on a plane. So maybe, maybe he has grown and has become the decent and reliable escort that his minions report him to be....

 

Hell... I didn't even chime in when he had the balls to try and console Rod.... a nice gesture, I guess, but that's like Pamela Sue Anderson giving a pep talk to Meryl Streep. Seriously.

 

But when he again had the nuts to talk about his dancers that "don't show up"... about "selling a client" and not showing up.. etc, etc, etc..... well, that was that.... Vomit.

 

Oh well.. congrats to him.... he obviously makes a lot of you out there happy with his "sucking and fucking".... but I think the real kudos should go to ... umm...

 

Daddy.... the only vote that counts.

 

Okie

 

May I suggest a little less whining and better syntax?

 

Nostradamus is more clear...

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I met Tristan for the first time this past year and truly enjoyed our time together. That said, I would be major pissed, too, if Tristan had stood me up on three separate occasions and if I had lost hundreds (or thousands) of dollars on un-used airfares and wasted time, and if he had blatantly threatened me... The nerve! Thanks for your post, Okie. You have every right to bitch, imho.

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The point is that a no show where airline tickets and hotels are involved is much, much worse than a local no-show.

 

If an escort no-shows and ends up costing the client tons of money on lost air fare and possibly hotel bills, the client's time (which of course, is not important when evaluating the effect of a no-show - NOT!!!), etc. that is, to me, worse than crappy performance during the call.

 

And remember that Okie's encounters are usually intricate encounters with multiple escorts so a no-show can completely screw up the dynamic.

 

I've seen Andrew Justice and I can see why he is 1st Runner Up. As far as I'm concerned, he's EOY because I would never hire Tristan Baldwin - don't like the tattoos, rarely hire top only guys and I don't consider him anything special to look at (even ignoring the tattoos).

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The point is that a no show where airline tickets and hotels are involved is much, much worse than a local no-show.

 

If an escort no-shows and ends up costing the client tons of money on lost air fare and possibly hotel bills, the client's time (which of course, is not important when evaluating the effect of a no-show - NOT!!!), etc. that is, to me, worse than crappy performance during the call.

 

And remember that Okie's encounters are usually intricate encounters with multiple escorts so a no-show can completely screw up the dynamic.

 

I've seen Andrew Justice and I can see why he is 1st Runner Up. As far as I'm concerned, he's EOY because I would never hire Tristan Baldwin - don't like the tattoos, rarely hire top only guys and I don't consider him anything special to look at (even ignoring the tattoos).

 

Was I wrong in thinking Tristan was versatile in some of his movies or perhaps a long time ago his ad read versatile?

 

Gman

 

PS I totally agree about Andrew Justice.

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The point is that a no show where airline tickets and hotels are involved is much, much worse than a local no-show.

 

If an escort no-shows and ends up costing the client tons of money on lost air fare and possibly hotel bills, the client's time (which of course, is not important when evaluating the effect of a no-show - NOT!!!), etc. that is, to me, worse than crappy performance during the call.

 

And remember that Okie's encounters are usually intricate encounters with multiple escorts so a no-show can completely screw up the dynamic.

 

I've seen Andrew Justice and I can see why he is 1st Runner Up. As far as I'm concerned, he's EOY because I would never hire Tristan Baldwin - don't like the tattoos, rarely hire top only guys and I don't consider him anything special to look at (even ignoring the tattoos).

 

didnt think of it that way and you're right. does sort of screw things up pretty darned well doesn't it?

 

I wouldn't hire tb either. not my particular taste in look, know of of several other guys who were noshowed by him and his history in bare back vids shows lack of character

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Was I wrong in thinking Tristan was versatile in some of his movies or perhaps a long time ago his ad read versatile?

 

Gman

 

PS I totally agree about Andrew Justice.

Gar..He definitely was Very Versatile in a few of his Older Videos! "Closing down the Tunnel" has been the choice of a few Working Guys! Especially the Successful who can afford to narrow down the Client Pool! ;)

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Is it December 7th? Dawn? Tora Tora Tora? You're welcome to try and Pearl Harbor me some more, because rest assured- this cat has claws, too.

 

The reviews I have, and the clients I've seen many, MANY times are by virtue of their character. They don't lie to me. They don't deceive me. They aren't control freaks.

 

My ad had posted as 'top only', for many years, not have I bottomed on film since 2007 productions(not releases, as some things come far later). You first began with an intended 'private taping' of myself and AJ, with me to top. You then sprang it on me that it had to be a flip(versatile), days before I'm intended to go out there. So that trip falls apart, and it's ME , not you , who had the courtesy to call your travel agent, and cancel the ticket to preserve you it's value. For those of you who travel frequently, you know that ticket value doesn't change; when rebooked, an additional 150 is put on a card, THEN the previous value is accessible.

 

Time 2, you repeat the same deal. You tell me it's ok to top, but now instead of 2 guys, you flip it on me that there's gonna be 4. The same expectation of health and safety isn't present...I'd honestly rather have sex with clients from a safety standpoint, then other escorts- Who are farrrrrrr more prone to making mistakes, for the most part. (*note* this doesn't apply to the high end guys that Okie hires, who are all responsible, major names ). But by your logic.... If its xxxx as an arrangement for me to be with one person... Now you throw THREE partners at me...I mean...where do I draw the line? When you have 10 people there I'm expected to play with? Changing the equation wasnt right.

 

Third and final time, we had it brokered down to where I top, and only one of the several guys. I offer to find my OWN flight for 330 from BDL to okc, and even offer to rent a car to pick the other guys up and bring them to you. You insist you want it to be YOUR ticket, all the guys coming at once, and your ticket had me going home the very next day. I offered to pay for my own, and the car, bevause I'd be seeing other clients days after this play ended. Fair, no ? Anyone here knows I'm a team player.

 

Last and final point. These videos were intended to be private. For the record, in front of every member of this forum, do you wanna state as to whether clips wound up on redtube ? Not ones involving me, since we never shot- but I found the videos before I came out, and it solidified all the other deceptions from you , with an outright LIE.

 

I'll call a spade a spade-you wanna dog me on forums, be my guest- but a fair warning to everrrrrrry adult guy out there who might be coerced into shooting for a check- CAVEAT EMPTOR when it comes to you, buyer beware.

 

FYI- wasnt about $, that's how you know I'm heated about this. Bevause your monetary offer is actually higher than most guys scene rates, and the exposure is far more limited. For me, it's about PRINCIPLE, I'm a stubborn polock- I will NOT get lied to. Will turn down money before that.

 

 

My apologies to anyone who has wasted time from their lives, on this senseless drivel. You feel I don't deserve the award , take it back. It won't affect the service I've rendered and will CONTINUE to render to deserving clients that I count as my FRIENDS.

 

Had intended to attend the DC luncheon this 13th, as i connected thru there on the 12th on the way back from tampa..and hang with Poolboy and other decent guys, and meet Ace. However, I'll change my plans accordingly, if you all listen to the nonsense from a charlatan.

 

TB

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Sometimes when sex becomes so scripted and expectations creep (and change) beyond your comfort zone, it's best to backout as you did. For me, as a client, it becomes less pleasureable and not worth it.

 

 

 

Is it December 7th? Dawn? Tora Tora Tora? You're welcome to try and Pearl Harbor me some more, because rest assured- this cat has claws, too.

 

The reviews I have, and the clients I've seen many, MANY times are by virtue of their character. They don't lie to me. They don't deceive me. They aren't control freaks.

 

My ad had posted as 'top only', for many years, not have I bottomed on film since 2007 productions(not releases, as some things come far later). You first began with an intended 'private taping' of myself and AJ, with me to top. You then sprang it on me that it had to be a flip(versatile), days before I'm intended to go out there. So that trip falls apart, and it's ME , not you , who had the courtesy to call your travel agent, and cancel the ticket to preserve you it's value. For those of you who travel frequently, you know that ticket value doesn't change; when rebooked, an additional 150 is put on a card, THEN the previous value is accessible.

 

Time 2, you repeat the same deal. You tell me it's ok to top, but now instead of 2 guys, you flip it on me that there's gonna be 4. The same expectation of health and safety isn't present...I'd honestly rather have sex with clients from a safety standpoint, then other escorts- Who are farrrrrrr more prone to making mistakes, for the most part. (*note* this doesn't apply to the high end guys that Okie hires, who are all responsible, major names ). But by your logic.... If its xxxx as an arrangement for me to be with one person... Now you throw THREE partners at me...I mean...where do I draw the line? When you have 10 people there I'm expected to play with? Changing the equation wasnt right.

 

Third and final time, we had it brokered down to where I top, and only one of the several guys. I offer to find my OWN flight for 330 from BDL to okc, and even offer to rent a car to pick the other guys up and bring them to you. You insist you want it to be YOUR ticket, all the guys coming at once, and your ticket had me going home the very next day. I offered to pay for my own, and the car, bevause I'd be seeing other clients days after this play ended. Fair, no ? Anyone here knows I'm a team player.

 

Last and final point. These videos were intended to be private. For the record, in front of every member of this forum, do you wanna state as to whether clips wound up on redtube ? Not ones involving me, since we never shot- but I found the videos before I came out, and it solidified all the other deceptions from you , with an outright LIE.

 

I'll call a spade a spade-you wanna dog me on forums, be my guest- but a fair warning to everrrrrrry adult guy out there who might be coerced into shooting for a check- CAVEAT EMPTOR when it comes to you, buyer beware.

 

FYI- wasnt about $, that's how you know I'm heated about this. Bevause your monetary offer is actually higher than most guys scene rates, and the exposure is far more limited. For me, it's about PRINCIPLE, I'm a stubborn polock- I will NOT get lied to. Will turn down money before that.

 

 

My apologies to anyone who has wasted time from their lives, on this senseless drivel. You feel I don't deserve the award , take it back. It won't affect the service I've rendered and will CONTINUE to render to deserving clients that I count as my FRIENDS.

 

Had intended to attend the DC luncheon this 13th, as i connected thru there on the 12th on the way back from tampa..and hang with Poolboy and other decent guys, and meet Ace. However, I'll change my plans accordingly, if you all listen to the nonsense from a charlatan.

 

TB

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