On Shooting Your Credibility In The Foot...

[bigvalboy]

I am another one of those who really dislikes the "I know something that you don't know but I am not going to tell you" line. In general, when I hear something like that all I want to do is stay far away from anyone and everyone involved.

 

I don't disagree with you, however that is not, nor should that be the focus. Good people are being defamed here, and reputations are being thrown out let yesterdays garbage. It is easy for most of us to post here, because at the end of the day we can log off and go to bed without ever caring what really happens here. Then tomorrow we can log on again, and start attacking each other over some silly topic that has zero affect on any of our lives.

[RockHard]

Oh please.

 

I also think that if anyone ever asks why don't you submit negative review(s), that this thread can serve as the poster child for that answer.

 

I disagree. If you had a rotten experience, especially with a well-known, highly regarded escort, you can be a help to all involved by sharing it. Escorts are human: They can be prone to bad days and difficult customers. As long as an escort is willing to make amends with his disgruntled customer, that escort will have the opportunity to win marketplace RESPECT. That opportunity is priceless for any small business.

 

There is a way for every reviewer to prove they are writing the truth. The devil is in the details and the truthful reviewer knows what those details are. He can use them if he wants to. If there is goodwill in the negative review, there is a way to keep one's reputation intact. The magic of truth often lies in the words, and, unfortunately, too many men don't know how to express themselves well in writing, and too many negative reviews come with a "destroy" agenda.

 

IMO, JamesNYC's handing of himself on this board, using the words he used, is extremely suspect. I would not hesitate to give Marc Dylan the benefit of any doubt.

 

I think I would simply avoid any escort that OprahLuver21 likes because that girl scares me

 

Sorry, but that's just sissy-talk. Soap-operaLover's language is no different than that other ubiquitous troll on this board. I'm scared FOR them, because each has a nasty streak that really makes them appear UGLY. One thing is for sure, they really know how to push people away from them. And I'm happy to walk in the opposite direction.

 

IMO, neither troll has much credibility.

[jimboivyo]

I don't disagree with you, however that is not, nor should that be the focus. Good people are being defamed here, and reputations are being thrown out let yesterdays garbage. It is easy for most of us to post here, because at the end of the day we can log off and go to bed without ever caring what really happens here. Then tomorrow we can log on again, and start attacking each other over some silly topic that has zero affect on any of our lives.

 

this has been going on for a long time. good escorts getting attacked by folks who have no first hand experience with them

 

this is nothing new but it should be something that's stopped

[bigvalboy]

this has been going on for a long time. good escorts getting attacked by folks who have no first hand experience with them

 

this is nothing new but it should be something that's stopped

 

You are absolutely correct, and I am as guilty as anyone, however I don't see any solution that would adequately resolve the problem. Perhaps it is just the nature of on-line chat. I don't operate my life anymore in that mental frame work. Which is why I ask myself day after day, "What the Hell am I doing here?"

[jjkrkwood]

The one MUST HAVE accessorie for being a member here is a HIGH pair of rubber boots to wade thru all the muck and bullshit being shovelled here. Do any of you really even Believe the crap that you write, or is it being written for "effect" and to fill space and make you seem participatory ??? Sorry, not buying any of it, and this thread as well should have been over pages ago. For me personally, you are all nothing more than strangers, none of you have credibility as I dont know you, and all THIS is just an entertaining diversion at times. And the other times, its simply just exhausting.

[RockHard]

good escorts getting attacked by folks who have no first hand experience with them this is nothing new but it should be something that's stopped

 

In the anonymous world, you can't stop it. Providing absolute proof of the encounter (to an objective authority) is the only way to "prove" anything, and it seems to me, most reliable proofing methods would require revealing an I.D., so there goes anonymity.

 

Most successful review sites, like Yelp, Amazon, and TripAdvisor don't require any proof whatsoever. Shilling at these sites is a major complaint among business owners. To counter that, these sites permit and encourage business rebuttals.

 

I know for a fact, the hotels on TripAdvisor, who are actively monitoring and responding to reviewers, garner the most respect. If a negative reviewer is not willing to contact the hotel to make amends, that reviewer is automatically dismissed as not credible.

 

Daddy is smart to allow escort rebuttals. But what can one say about the escorts who don't want to help his review site in any way?

[instudiocity]

It's very easy to turn an escort down or leave half way through from the escort's home or hotel. Not always prudent to do from your own home or hotel room. I think that has to be factored into how you handle a bad situation.

I've never had a problem in my own home, my hotel room, his hotel room his home, the street or in a bar or restaurant. I have quite simply said, "Look this isn't the scene I was looking for, can I give you $50 for your trouble?" and that usually ends it immediately. Better to be Miss Congeniality than to try to take a john for his whole wad and not get paid. (Pun intended).

[down_to_business]

I have been guilty in the past of paying the full rate to lying &$^!#^*!@* escorts that show up blantantly and obviously misrepresenting themselves (and I don't mean simply being 1 year older than they stated in their ad). Hopefully clients will learn to grow a pair, get a backbone, and kick the blantant liars to the curb. It took me a while, but I got there-- yay me!

[RexAll]

But How Credible Is Max Himself?

 

Mr. Smart has been on the Forum only a little over a year. He posts frequently and has already made himself a Viscount. He spreads his opinions far and wide. Well done sir. However he operates under a bit more anonymity than most of us. We basically know nothing about him. He says he is an escort. But he has never- as far as I know revealed who he is, where he lives, if he has an ad running. So under the invisibility cloak of this Forum, he is free to take any potshots at anything that strikes his fancy. Long timers will remember when in the past an escort used a false second Screen Name to send slings and arrows anonymously without hurting his own reputation. It looks to me like someone else has decided to try the same trick.

 

Rex

[wayout]

I don't see how he operates under a bit more anonymity than most of us, certainly not more than myself. I don't personally see anything that substantiates any conjecture that he has multiple personalities on this board.

 

Mr. Smart has been on the Forum only a little over a year. He posts frequently and has already made himself a Viscount. He spreads his opinions far and wide. Well done sir. However he operates under a bit more anonymity than most of us. We basically know nothing about him. He says he is an escort. But he has never- as far as I know revealed who he is, where he lives, if he has an ad running. So under the invisibility cloak of this Forum, he is free to take any potshots at anything that strikes his fancy. Long timers will remember when in the past an escort used a false second Screen Name to send slings and arrows anonymously without hurting his own reputation. It looks to me like someone else has decided to try the same trick.

 

Rex

[seeker630]

I don't see how he operates under a bit more anonymity than most of us, certainly not more than myself. I don't personally see anything that substantiates any conjecture that he has multiple personalities on this board.

 

Agree.

[wayout]

Alot depends on the personality of the client AND circumstances of the meeting that often is a judgement call on how to deal with the situation. I don't pretend to second guess someones decision without the benefit of being there or having details.

 

 

I have been guilty in the past of paying the full rate to lying &$^!#^*!@* escorts that show up blantantly and obviously misrepresenting themselves (and I don't mean simply being 1 year older than they stated in their ad). Hopefully clients will learn to grow a pair, get a backbone, and kick the blantant liars to the curb. It took me a while, but I got there-- yay me!

[wayout]

You made a judgement call that fortunately worked ou for yout. It could have easily gone badly so i would not have thought it was a poor decision if someone were to proceed with an appointment (although perhaps abbreviated), pay the amount and then leaves for fear of harm if calling off the whole thing as you did.

 

A few decades ago, the first time I refused payment to an escort, we were at his apartment. I stood up got dressed and told him that this whole deal was a scam and the I was leaving, and that I wasn't paying him. I was sitting on the bed putting my shoes on and he came out the bathroom with a baseball bat and said I wasn't leaving till he got his money. I just looked at him and said, "Really, a baseball bat. So, what now? Are you going to hit me with that?" I looked over at his tiny little kitchen and said, "You see that kitchen, well if you hit with that, you will be spending the rest of your life in a space smaller than that, now get the "F" out of my way before I really get mad." he stepped aside and let me out....all the way to the car I kept saying to myself, stupid stupid stupid, That was the dumbest thing you have ever done. You could have got yourself killed....lol lol but that was the first time I said no to an escort, and it felt pretty damn good.

[RexAll]

I don't see how he operates under a bit more anonymity than most of us, certainly not more than myself. I don't personally see anything that substantiates any conjecture that he has multiple personalities on this board.

 

I'm sorry. I was a bit more vague than I meant to be. I have no idea if Max has more than one identity on here or not. I just meant that he is supposedly an escort. Escorts are usually on here to make a name for themselves so that people will want to consider hiring him. Max has never revealed who he is. It's possible some of us have hired him- but wouldn't if we knew he was the author of many of these posts- or on the other hand- someone may love his judgmental expertise on all that he surveys and want to hire him more.

 

 

Rex

[Guest countryboywny]

I don't see how he operates under a bit more anonymity than most of us, certainly not more than myself.

 

A very good point, Wayout! Which takes me to the original point of this thread which is "credibility". There is NO credibility to be earned or given on this board. The anonymity of the posters assures this. You may agree or disagree with a poster, but you can't say his point is "credible" since you can't fact check him. I think this is a good thing for the free flow of ideas, but everything on this board should be taken lightly.

[maxwellissmart]

Mr. Smart has been on the Forum only a little over a year. He posts frequently and has already made himself a Viscount. He spreads his opinions far and wide. Well done sir. However he operates under a bit more anonymity than most of us. We basically know nothing about him. He says he is an escort. But he has never- as far as I know revealed who he is, where he lives, if he has an ad running. So under the invisibility cloak of this Forum, he is free to take any potshots at anything that strikes his fancy. Long timers will remember when in the past an escort used a false second Screen Name to send slings and arrows anonymously without hurting his own reputation. It looks to me like someone else has decided to try the same trick.

 

Rex

 

Rex, I have one name on the board—this one. I created it with the intent of being able to post without worrying about material gain or loss as an escort. I am most definitely an escort, and have seen at least three people on here who post with regularity. I've been a cover boy and (currently) have a 100% rating. I think escorting and the sex industry in general is incredibly fascinating, and for the most part it's a lot of fun. I do have an opinion, and I think it's a valuable one for both clients and other escorts. I'm not afraid to cheerlead an unpopular opinion or be devil's advocate for the less represented side. There are many unfriendly people on this board who like to stir up drama and wouldn't think twice about trying to do something nasty or damaging to my ability to make money. That already happens enough as it is, with people who have never even heard of Max or this board. Rest assured, if I stop escorting permanently, I'll have a coming out party and you can all say: "ooooohhhhhhhh! I thought it was him!"

 

Although I could be Tyro—that underhanded bitch.

[wayout]

What motivates an escort from posting here under their stage name? I speculate it is mostly for potential business, to promote their name. Otherwise they could certainly post as an alias as Max does. Nothing preventing them from doing so. If they post under their escort name they certainly must know the risks they take when posting things that may not be well received my some. Others will always play it safe. If it is a matter of escorts feeling it is important to be known to add to their credibility on certain topics they post, certainly there is a way for daddy to validate anonymous posters as escorts in some way to address that.

 

 

I think that unfortunately we are seeing first hand what happens when an escort comes to these boards under his real name and tries to be fair and open and honest about what occurs in his life. We have been throwing is name over and under the bus for the better part of three days. Very sad. For the record, I spoke with Marc and suggested that he post anonymously. He refused. I respect that, but is it any wonder why Max has chosen not to post under his real name. I don't think that the persona and atmosphere of this forum really permits that. I think that the general lack of civility on the Forum is enough reason to remain anonymous. Since I have been posting in just over one year, I know three escorts that I have hired that no longer post here, simply because of all the hate that is spewed out every day. The last escort that I discussed this with, just shook his head and said, "mean girls, just a bunch of mean girls" and he walked away.

 

We are all anonymous here, it is a level playing field for everyone. Take all this seriously or with a grain of salt, your choice, but this is hardly life for any of us.

[citylaw1]

Rex, I have one name on the board—this one. I created it with the intent of being able to post without worrying about material gain or loss as an escort. I am most definitely an escort, and have seen at least three people on here who post with regularity. I've been a cover boy and (currently) have a 100% rating. I think escorting and the sex industry in general is incredibly fascinating, and for the most part it's a lot of fun. I do have an opinion, and I think it's a valuable one for both clients and other escorts. I'm not afraid to cheerlead an unpopular opinion or be devil's advocate for the less represented side. There are many unfriendly people on this board who like to stir up drama and wouldn't think twice about trying to do something nasty or damaging to my ability to make money. That already happens enough as it is, with people who have never even heard of Max or this board. Rest assured, if I stop escorting permanently, I'll have a coming out party and you can all say: "ooooohhhhhhhh! I thought it was him!"

 

Although I could be Tyro—that underhanded bitch.

 

I think that by not revealing yourself, you offer more insight, in that you are able to speak freely without affecting your business.

[citylaw1]

I think that unfortunately we are seeing first hand what happens when an escort comes to these boards under his real name and tries to be fair and open and honest about what occurs in his life. We have been throwing is name over and under the bus for the better part of three days. Very sad. For the record, I spoke with Marc and suggested that he post anonymously. He refused. I respect that, but is it any wonder why Max has chosen not to post under his real name. I don't think that the persona and atmosphere of this forum really permits that. I think that the general lack of civility on the Forum is enough reason to remain anonymous. Since I have been posting in just over one year, I know three escorts that I have hired that no longer post here, simply because of all the hate that is spewed out every day. The last escort that I discussed this with, just shook his head and said, "mean girls, just a bunch of mean girls" and he walked away.

 

We are all anonymous here, it is a level playing field for everyone. Take all this seriously or with a grain of salt, your choice, but this is hardly life for any of us.

 

I was shocked at how freely more than one well reviewed escort posters revealed intimate details of fellow posters to me. Not everyone is as anonymous as you might think. This was awhile ago, but still. Max is smart to remain anonymous.

[citylaw1]

What motivates an escort from posting here? I speculate it is mostly for potential business, to promote their name. Otherwise they could certainly post as an alias as Max does. Nothing preventing them from doing so. If they post under their escort name they certainly must know the risks they take when posting things that may not be well received my some. Others will always play it safe. If it is a matter of escorts feeling it is important to be known to add to their credibility on certain topics they post, certainly there is a way for daddy to validate anonymous posters as escorts in some way to address that.

 

I enjoy escort banter, and it wouldn't deter (except for the obvious) me from hiring an escort that was argumentative here. I would have liked to meet Scott Adler for this very reason. The thought of shoving my dick in his mouth to quiet him turned me on.

[RexAll]

Well I Guess I Was Being Selfish

 

I would like to know who Max is because if his posts are his real feelings or are evidence of the callous way he treats people different from him or who he decides he is better than, I'd prefer not to hire him. I'll stick with guys like Kristian Elix, Rod Hagen, or Ace who are known to be nice people as well as great escorts.

 

 

 

Rex

[citylaw1]

I would like to know who Max is because if his posts are his real feelings or are evidence of the callous way he treats people different from him or who he decides he is better than, I'd prefer not to hire him. I'll stick with guys like Kristian Elix, Rod Hagen, or Ace who are known to be nice people as well as great escorts.

 

 

 

 

 

Rex

 

I don't see his comments as callous.

[Walker1]

Is Marc Dylan the escort who is alleged to have no teeth or is that another escort-I think his name starts with an M too??

[jimboivyo]

I would like to know who Max is because if his posts are his real feelings or are evidence of the callous way he treats people different from him or who he decides he is better than, I'd prefer not to hire him. I'll stick with guys like Kristian Elix, Rod Hagen, or Ace who are known to be nice people as well as great escorts.

 

 

 

Rex

 

I don't see his posts as calous. he's a smart ass, but it's funny stuff

 

your post above is filled with misinformation and its not just your opinions on max. I would advise any guy hiring to look very closely into who they see and to not just follow the crowd. good reviews aside, even 'great' folks can be hiding something

[Xander]

I have enjoyed Max's posts, and to those of you who DON'T like the fact that he is anonymous on the internet I give you this advice: Log off, and never return. Welcome to the internet, the last true (mostly) free place in the land. So long as max has no material gain there is absolutely no reason whatsoever that he should have his identity revealed. And screw all of you that say otherwise.

 

Shit, Daddy could be Max. Does it really even matter? If what he says offends you, then either look at what he is saying, or look at yourself, a bit closer.

 

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I personally haven't left this forum yet because you all are incredibly vicious and need to be put in place