Should I tell my regular client .....

[Guynextdoor32]

Ok, so I got a referral from a regular client! Always a plus! The guy reached out, set something up, all is great! My regular client sent me a note saying, he should be a great new client and we should hit it off!

 

Yesterday.....had a great time, super nice guy! Until .... I forgot my wallet. No problem, no drama, bring it back by later today, not a big deal.

 

Later that day....got an email, would you be upset if I brought it by in the morning! No problem.....

 

This morning I sent an email saying don't forget about me.....nothing...Now what? Should I tell my regular client that this "great" guy didn't hold up his end of the deal or just write it off! It's not a big deal, just a 2 hour appt., and this is a travel city for me...so...

 

Any thoughts?

[jjkrkwood]

Ok, so I got a referral from a regular client! Always a plus! The guy reached out, set something up, all is great! My regular client sent me a note saying, he should be a great new client and we should hit it off!

 

Yesterday.....had a great time, super nice guy! Until .... I forgot my wallet. No problem, no drama, bring it back by later today, not a big deal.

 

Later that day....got an email, would you be upset if I brought it by in the morning! No problem.....

 

This morning I sent an email saying don't forget about me.....nothing...Now what? Should I tell my regular client that this "great" guy didn't hold up his end of the deal or just write it off! It's not a big deal, just a 2 hour appt., and this is a travel city for me...so...

 

Any thoughts?

 

Your regular client should make good for it.

[bigvalboy]

Ok, so I got a referral from a regular client! Always a plus! The guy reached out, set something up, all is great! My regular client sent me a note saying, he should be a great new client and we should hit it off!

 

Yesterday.....had a great time, super nice guy! Until .... I forgot my wallet. No problem, no drama, bring it back by later today, not a big deal.

 

Later that day....got an email, would you be upset if I brought it by in the morning! No problem.....

 

This morning I sent an email saying don't forget about me.....nothing...Now what? Should I tell my regular client that this "great" guy didn't hold up his end of the deal or just write it off! It's not a big deal, just a 2 hour appt., and this is a travel city for me...so...

 

Any thoughts?

 

Hey GND, my initial thought is that I have been in a similar situation. I have recommended friends to escorts and the hire has gone poorly, everyone got paid, but not much else was satisfactory. Now while I felt badly, there wasn't much that could be done. I personally did not feel responsible for the bad hire, and your client might not either. You might just have to write this one off, but if it were me, I would definitely tell your regular what happened. I would be nice about it as you don't want to send any negative attitude his way, and you also don't want to burn that bridge but he should know what happened. He might talk to his friend and the money might come.

 

If that doesn't work, I would send a nice email requesting the money and tell him that he really is not being honorable here, (though he is already aware of that)...People know when they are wrong! Following the email I would just move on, it is really the cost that everyone has of doing business. Everyone eventually gets 'burned'...When all is said and done, I think that you should take the 'high road' and don't let something like this spin into something that is ugly.

 

There are some very experienced escorts on the Forum, who might have some other advice that worked for them. Sorry this happened to you..Good luck.

[+ Travis69]

Do you have the client's phone number? If so, I would call. It might show him you are really serious about getting your money.

[rguer]

Your regular client should make good for it.

 

I don't think so. It wasn't his doing. Even telling the regular client what happened might be a breach of privacy (the fact that the new client did something wrong is not an excuse for the escort also doing something wrong).

[Guynextdoor32]

Ok, this was the first time this man has hired someone ( so he says)

 

I just don't want the vibe with my regular to be off or have him feel bad. It's really not his problem! I'm sure they will have a chat about the meeting....I just wonder if they will talk about the fee part.....

 

On the other hand, I'll reach out one more time just to say...your not being very honorable! An see what happens.

 

I don't want to be a stalker over it.....

[jjkrkwood]

Ok, this was the first time this man has hired someone ( so he says)

 

I just don't want the vibe with my regular to be off or have him feel bad. It's really not his problem! I'm sure they will have a chat about the meeting....I just wonder if they will talk about the fee part.....

 

On the other hand, I'll reach out one more time just to say...your not being very honorable! An see what happens.

 

I don't want to be a stalker over it.....

 

Only you can decide how valuable your clients are to you, and how much you can afford to lose. Chances are, your cleint was asked for a reccommendation and offered you up, but probably also knows his friend is a flake. Thats why I never give reccommendations. I dont want to be responsible for someone elses shit,,,,,

[bigvalboy]

Ok, this was the first time this man has hired someone ( so he says)

 

I just don't want the vibe with my regular to be off or have him feel bad. It's really not his problem! I'm sure they will have a chat about the meeting....I just wonder if they will talk about the fee part.....

 

On the other hand, I'll reach out one more time just to say...your not being very honorable! An see what happens.

 

I don't want to be a stalker over it.....

 

I totally agree that it really isn't your regular clients problem and as I said, you don't want to burn that bridge, but first time hiring or a million times hiring, the problem is he KNOWS he owes the money. So best to tread lightly here. We talk on the forum all the time about clients getting burned with old pics, misrepresentation, escorts not doing what was promised et cetera, but escorts get burned all the time also...very sad.

[cany10011]

I think you should tell your regular. The regular recommended you and is his friend. You can make light of it and joke about having a good time but it would have been better if you were paid. This would open up to the conversation that his friend never paid you and he would probably feel compelled to get involved. I don't think it would jeopardize anything if your regular got involved, he is partially already involved by recommending you.

 

 

 

 

 

 

I totally agree that it really isn't your regular clients problem and as I said, you don't want to burn that bridge, but first time hiring or a million times hiring, the problem is he KNOWS he owes the money. So best to tread lightly here. We talk on the forum all the time about clients getting burned with old pics, misrepresentation, escorts not doing what was promised et cetera, but escorts get burned all the time also...very sad.

[seeker630]

Ok, so I got a referral from a regular client! Always a plus! The guy reached out, set something up, all is great! My regular client sent me a note saying, he should be a great new client and we should hit it off!

 

Yesterday.....had a great time, super nice guy! Until .... I forgot my wallet. No problem, no drama, bring it back by later today, not a big deal.

 

Later that day....got an email, would you be upset if I brought it by in the morning! No problem.....

 

This morning I sent an email saying don't forget about me.....nothing...Now what? Should I tell my regular client that this "great" guy didn't hold up his end of the deal or just write it off! It's not a big deal, just a 2 hour appt., and this is a travel city for me...so...

 

Any thoughts?

 

I think you have to consider how your regular client might react - you don't want to damage that relationship. On the other hand, if I referred a friend & he behaved badly, I would want to know, so I wouldn't refer him again.

 

I think you should tell your regular client ONLY if he asks how the the session went, and then do it in such a way that he doesn't feel like you're blaming him.

[unsub2O17]

I'd like to turn this around. I've had an escort that I adore recommend a friend of his to me. That escort turned out to be OK, but not great. Do you think that I communicated that (or, for that matter, anything about any escort to another escort) to the escort who recommended him? Hell no! First of all, I'm a big boy. I make my own decisions on hiring. And, second, it's between the second escort and me. Should he decide to talk about me to his "friend" (my original escort), I can't help that, and I hope that I never hear about that. This wasn't a money issue, but I think that the principle is the same. Think about it. Don't tell tales "out of school". If you talk about someone else or they talk to you about someone else, how do you (or they) really know that they're not talking about you (or them) too behind your (or their) back? That was a really awkward phrase, but I hope that you see my concern in both directions.

[+ sf westcoaster]

Reach out one more time to the new client. If he does not respond (i.e does not pay), then write it off as an experience and write off that client. I would not tell my long term client unles he speciically asks how the session went. Remember you are in business and what happens between you and a client should remain between the two of you.

[nate_sf]

I don't think so. It wasn't his doing. Even telling the regular client what happened might be a breach of privacy (the fact that the new client did something wrong is not an excuse for the escort also doing something wrong).

 

I agree with this. In the most ethical sense, an professional escort should never relate any of the details of a hire to anybody outside of the appointment. This includes how it went, whether there were any issues... and for that matter, even whether there was a meeting at all.

 

If your client asks how it went, simply say as a matter of practice you don't discuss the details of appointments. If he's really curious he could ask his friend but that's not your business. But I would not let this spoil your relationship with your client. He thought highly enough to recommend you, but may not know his friend is a flake. On the other hand, if he refers other flakey guys to you, you might want to think twice before accepting one of his referrals. But I have a feeling that is not the case here. Just shine it on.

 

A number of years ago a friend was wanting to do a project on his house and asked me if I knew of a good architect. I knew a guy who I'd gone to college with, who was working on his own, and who I thought would be a good match for the project. Turns out it was a disaster... my architect "friend" made a complete ass out of himself. Who knows, there may have been more to the story, but I'm glad my friend did not hold the episode against me.

[+ Travis69]

It would be interesting to know how well the two clients know each other. A 10 year close relationship or just met 2 weeks ago chatting online? If it's a new relationship and the regular client doesn't know the new client that well but has been a good friend to the escort for many years it would be beneficial to the regular client to know what type of person the new client is for future dealings with him. Many variables in this story which would dictate how I would handle the whole situation if I were the escort. Personally if I recommended someone to another in any situation and the situation went really bad I would want to be informed.

[seeker630]

I'd like to turn this around. I've had an escort that I adore recommend a friend of his to me. That escort turned out to be OK, but not great. Do you think that I communicated that (or, for that matter, anything about any escort to another escort) to the escort who recommended him? Hell no! First of all, I'm a big boy. I make my own decisions on hiring. And, second, it's between the second escort and me. Should he decide to talk about me to his "friend" (my original escort), I can't help that, and I hope that I never hear about that. This wasn't a money issue, but I think that the principle is the same. Think about it. Don't tell tales "out of school". If you talk about someone else or they talk to you about someone else, how do you (or they) really know that they're not talking about you (or them) too behind your (or their) back? That was a really awkward phrase, but I hope that you see my concern in both directions.

 

Does that mean you don't write reviews or share information here about your encounters?

 

I admit, I'm struggling here. I can see the argument/position that encounters are private - but this entire site is based on sharing information.

 

People here clamor when a client gets scammed or an escort fails to deliver. Why should there be a double standard?

 

In this case, we're NOT talking about a public airing of the event.

[seeker630]

I agree with this. In the most ethical sense, an professional escort should never relate any of the details of a hire to anybody outside of the appointment. This includes how it went, whether there were any issues... and for that matter, even whether there was a meeting at all.

 

If your client asks how it went, simply say as a matter of practice you don't discuss the details of appointments. If he's really curious he could ask his friend but that's not your business. But I would not let this spoil your relationship with your client. He thought highly enough to recommend you, but may not know his friend is a flake. On the other hand, if he refers other flakey guys to you, you might want to think twice before accepting one of his referrals. But I have a feeling that is not the case here. Just shine it on.

 

A number of years ago a friend was wanting to do a project on his house and asked me if I knew of a good architect. I knew a guy who I'd gone to college with, who was working on his own, and who I thought would be a good match for the project. Turns out it was a disaster... my architect "friend" made a complete ass out of himself. Who knows, there may have been more to the story, but I'm glad my friend did not hold the episode against me.

 

So, you would never warn a colleague of a scammer?

[unsub2O17]

Does that mean you don't write reviews or share information here about your encounters?

 

I admit, I'm struggling here. I can see the argument/position that encounters are private - but this entire site is based on sharing information.

 

People here clamor when a client gets scammed or an escort fails to deliver. Why should there be a double standard?

 

In this case, we're NOT talking about a public airing of the event.

 

 

Yes, Seeker. I can see how writing reviews on Daddys could be seen as an exception to "never discuss one escort with another escort," and, for the record, I've written many reviews here on Daddys.

[LurkerSpeaks]

this whole thread reminds me of the sauna scene in Brazil. We (the customers) talk with our friends about the boys, who did what, who likes what, etc..) What we (the customers) don't always realize is that the boys talk about us as well. On a weeklong trip to the Rio saunas, by the second or third day, the boys all know what YOU like to do, what YOUR hotspots are, etc.. My guess is that the original client has already asked the referral client how the session went..Either the referral client "fessed up" to his friend or else he skirted the issue altogether. I say do not bring it up unless the original client brings it up first. Then, and only then, say it was a great time EXCEPT for one detail... and then drop it, never to be mentioned again (with original client)

[justaguy]

Reach out one more time to the new client. If he does not respond (i.e does not pay), then write it off as an experience and write off that client. I would not tell my long term client unles he speciically asks how the session went. Remember you are in business and what happens between you and a client should remain between the two of you.

 

westcoaster said exactly what I was thinking. Try to get your money once more time. He owes it to you. Period. I wouldn't say anything to your regular client unless he asks. If I had been the one to recommend someone to you, I would ask how it went the next time we got together. And I'd want to know you didn't get paid.

[cany10011]

the expectation that the escort adhere to the honor code of not kissing and telling was forfeited when the client failed to pay.

 

 

 

Reach out one more time to the new client. If he does not respond (i.e does not pay), then write it off as an experience and write off that client. I would not tell my long term client unles he speciically asks how the session went. Remember you are in business and what happens between you and a client should remain between the two of you.

[+ purplekow]

I seem to hold the minority opinion that you should indeed tell the long time client. He made a recommendation and at least in part your decision to take on the client was made upon his recommendation. Your long term client may not be aware of what happened and may not want his name associated in the future with a deadbeat scammer. I would not go into too much detail, just that the session took place but the finances were never finalized and that care should be taken with future recommendations for his friend.

[Phil_musc]

At last, PK, you are the voice of reason (cany too). I know if I made the referral I would want to know how things went down and in this situation, the money aspect is a significant part of the set-up. If discretion is a part of the total package, then that was forfeited because no consideration was paid to justify the discretion. Then too, why should the referring client take offense at hearing that his referral didn't honor the bargain? I don't follow the logic in that at all.

[+ Charlie]

I think it's unlikely that your regular would knowingly set you up with a friend who he thinks would fail to pay you. His friend is also unlikely to tell him that he failed to pay you. Therefore, your regular will probably assume that all went well, and he may unwittingly set up various kinds of relationships between his friend and other persons. If I were the regular, I would certainly want to know that I was setting up people who trust me with someone they should not trust.

[Phil_musc]

Exactly.

[Guynextdoor32]

Just to update!

 

All turned out ok...it took him 2 days but he came thru!

 

Thanks for the feedback!