Adam4Adam

[Guest verymarried]

Have any of you hired off sites like Adam4Adam? I have started doing this. I don't hire off the paid ads, but try to find attractive over-18 students who sound as though they could use some tuition help and approach them with mail like "Are you interested in older, generous guys?" I'd say one in ten will respond in some positive way. I met my first A4A this weekend in Cincinnati where I was on business. He is a 19 year old student, 5-11, 165, smooth defined body with 8" thick, cut and gorgeous. I picked him up at a house and drove him to my hotel. He was very nice - and dressed like a skater. The sex was unbelievable. There was obviously some risk in all this, probably much more than I realize. Interested in knowing if others have tried this.

[good ol boy]

Some of the mainstream guys advertise on there too so, it can be a reliable place to go to hire. I have viewed people like Deisel Washington advertising on A4A, for example. I would say that it is just as risky as hiring from rentboy or men4rentnow, it is just that A4A is newer so people are not as familiar with the "pros" section.

[Irtwo]

Verymarried, that is interesting. I can see the appeal of hiring someone who isn't a "pro". I'm curious, among the 9 out of 10 who don't respond favorably, what kind of responses to you get from them?

[maxwellissmart]

This seems incredibly dangerous to me, and for a variety of reasons that should be obvious. Despite the number of posts here about fakes and frauds, the vast majority of escorts are on the up-and-up and it would not occur to them to try to take advantage of a client. With a non-escort website (or at least the non-escort section), God only knows what kind of people you're dealing with, and what might pop into their heads when they are presented with an equation that has them making money from a stranger for getting their dick sucked.

 

If you're doing this for the excitement—stop and consider that there are literally thousands of men to choose from who will safely rock your world—myself included. If you're doing this to save a few bucks—you need to go back through this board and find a few posts that discuss clients who have had less than optimal experiences, and read them, before you get hurt.

[MiamiLooker]

Have any of you hired off sites like Adam4Adam? I have started doing this. I don't hire off the paid ads, but try to find attractive over-18 students who sound as though they could use some tuition help and approach them with mail like "Are you interested in older, generous guys?" I'd say one in ten will respond in some positive way. I met my first A4A this weekend in Cincinnati where I was on business. He is a 19 year old student, 5-11, 165, smooth defined body with 8" thick, cut and gorgeous. I picked him up at a house and drove him to my hotel. He was very nice - and dressed like a skater. The sex was unbelievable. There was obviously some risk in all this, probably much more than I realize. Interested in knowing if others have tried this.

 

I've met more than a few guys this way on a4a....never had a problem with any of them.

[MiamiLooker]

Verymarried, that is interesting. I can see the appeal of hiring someone who isn't a "pro". I'm curious, among the 9 out of 10 who don't respond favorably, what kind of responses to you get from them?

 

Just curious how you define a "pro"? Is that someone that graduated from escort school?

[mixer17]

Very interesting, But my question is cant you get in very large LEGAL trouble soliciting non-pros?

[Guest verymarried]

Thanks for asking about the responses I get off Adam when I ask them if they are interested in generous older guys. I often receive no response at all, in which case I do not bother them again. I sometimes receive a question from someone who doesn't exactly understand the idea. I have also been asked "why" I wish to be generous - (My accurate faceless picture shows a fit muscular body) and I just say that I am older and plagued to desire much younger partners. I sometimes receive an interested response but probably due to their having second thoights or perhaps the way I reply further, they decide against following through. By the way, I prefer to approach guys who say they are "not out".

[Guest verymarried]

Your question as whether I can get into legal trouble by solicting non-pros. I think this is possible, but am not sure how probable. I believe that people have encountered legal problems on Craigslist. The whole matter of possibly unintentionally dealing with underaged individuals is very frightening. So yes, I think this is one aspect which should always be a red flag. Unfortunately I do not think with my brain, but with my hard cock when traveling on business alone. I am not proud of this, but as yet see no prospect of reversing such activity.

[MiamiLooker]

Very interesting, But my question is cant you get in very large LEGAL trouble soliciting non-pros?

 

I suppose that's possible if one is really stupid in their communication.

[dutchal]

Very interesting, But my question is cant you get in very large LEGAL trouble soliciting non-pros?

 

As opposed to soliciting pros for an engagement in which you are both going to be involved in an illegal act?

 

LOL

[dutchal]

A4A is a mixed site -- they have separate listings for pros. Many of the escort pros on A4A are on other sites such as rentboy or men4rentnow, but many are not; google chrome images research shows that there is a very high percentage of the A4A escort pros using fake pics, so I stay away from them unless they're on other sites and have reviews somewhere. I have hired masseurs from the A4A pro listings -- after concluding the pics are real -- and don't consider that any different than using massagem4m, masseurfinder or manworks.

 

I have never solicited a non-pro for a "generous" encounter, but I get solicited on both A4A and manhunt by younger guys looking for generosity, and the same happens on craigslist, either in response to one of my posts or when I respond to a younger guy's post (that didn't give a clue he was looking for generosity). I have taken a couple guys up on it -- both from manhunt -- after first engaging in enough of a dialogue to satisfy myself that it was relatively safe. In both instances they guys were gorgeous and genuinely nice, the sex was awesome, and the fee was below market.

[+ Axiom2001]

Your question as whether I can get into legal trouble by solicting non-pros. I think this is possible, but am not sure how probable. I believe that people have encountered legal problems on Craigslist. The whole matter of possibly unintentionally dealing with underaged individuals is very frightening. So yes, I think this is one aspect which should always be a red flag. Unfortunately I do not think with my brain, but with my hard cock when traveling on business alone. I am not proud of this, but as yet see no prospect of reversing such activity.

 

Your "little head" can DEFINITELY get your "big head" into much trouble from a variety of ways. I'd suggest that you begin to use the latter much more than the former; that way you

can protect yourself unless you like a modicum of danger associated with your desires and actions.

[Guest verymarried]

Good advice Axiom. I am not sure I'd be on this site at all if I could suppress sexual desires for young hot men. I admire people who are faithful to their spouses and who resist temptation which could lead them and their families to trouble but I have never learned how to do this even through expensive shrinks. So I turn to expensive escorts, instead.

[JulianLondon]

Verymarried I've done exactly what you've described but it used to be Gaydar but seems to have been superseded by Grindr at least in the UK now. The appeal is finding someone that ticks every box. And that happens more often than I'd have expected, quite a few rejections but the good guys are keepers. I understand where you're coming from.

[ThickDickConnoisseur]

The little bit of experience I've had with non-pros has not been good. There's also so little recourse that you have if things go badly. I once responded to a guy who was advertising in the free section of Craigslist. We didn't set up a date, but I said I might be able to get together with him on a certain date. When that date came, I emailed him to let him know that I had made other plans. He responded with some very rude emails that made him sound rough and dangerous. I didn't know his name and didn't have a picture of his face, so there was little or no way I could warn others about him.

 

A good pro is concerned about his reputation. He not only wants new clients, he wants repeat business. A random, anonymous guy off of Craigslist or Adam4Adam can insult you, provide terrible service, and maybe even hurt you - and you'll have little or no way to do anything about it. If you're going to do it, at least meet with him in a hotel room or at his place. Don't let him come into your private home. It's not wise.

[TerryP]

I've done this (although here in Canada Manhunt is more popular than A4A) with success. As a matter of fact I think there are huge advantages:

- The transaction is much less business-like and more casual. The guys are open to ideas and suggestions instead of presenting you with a list of rules and a price-list

- When you are someone's only client, they appreciate and value you. Clearly some of you have very different experiences with "pros" than I have had, but in most cases I felt like just another one of a huge list of guys. Not like that with a non-pro.

- And as previously mentioned you can cherry-pick exactly the type of guy you like.

 

I don't think the risks are any different than any other Manhunt/A4A (non-paid) hookup. I've also approached a bartender at a club this way and had a great time. In that case the risks were even less as I knew where he worked and some mutual friends.

[operalover21]

There are just as many losers that you can hire on CL than you can hire on Rentboy or Men4Rentnow. I've had problems with all 3. What I have noticed about the guys I've approached on Adam is that they ask a lot of questions (a good thing, actually), it takes longer to set-up/convince them of an appt, and they are a little shy when you first meet. But you can have some great experiences as I have. Also, to be quite honest, you will find FAR hotter guys on Adam than you will ever find as professional escorts. Yes, 9 out of 10 don't respond but you only have to hit 1 or 2 to make it worthwhile. I did have my account suspended once -- for a few hours -- when I approached a guy on Adam. He reported me. But it wasn't a big deal.

[fedssocr1]

I got together a few years ago with a guy I met on the old AOL chatrooms. So, similar idea I suppose. Gorgeous, sweet American born Chinese kid. He would give me a sort of massage and then we would get down to some other fun from there. Only happened a couple of times unfortunately.

 

I don't see how this is any more or less dangerous than hiring any other escort. I suppose you could run into somebody who is so put off by it that he causes you some trouble.

[East2West]

A4A is a mixed site -- they have separate listings for pros. Many of the escort pros on A4A are on other sites such as rentboy or men4rentnow, but many are not; google chrome images research shows that there is a very high percentage of the A4A escort pros using fake pics, so I stay away from them unless they're on other sites and have reviews somewhere. I have hired masseurs from the A4A pro listings -- after concluding the pics are real -- and don't consider that any different than using massagem4m, masseurfinder or manworks.

 

I have never solicited a non-pro for a "generous" encounter, but I get solicited on both A4A and manhunt by younger guys looking for generosity, and the same happens on craigslist, either in response to one of my posts or when I respond to a younger guy's post (that didn't give a clue he was looking for generosity). I have taken a couple guys up on it -- both from manhunt -- after first engaging in enough of a dialogue to satisfy myself that it was relatively safe. In both instances they guys were gorgeous and genuinely nice, the sex was awesome, and the fee was below market.

 

This is pretty much my experience on A4A...the younger guys are not shy about contacting someone older, unlocking their pics and working the word "gen" into the first couple of exchanges. I'm in my 40's and whenever I see a message from someone in their early to mid 20's I can pretty much guess the direction the conversation will go. I do a quick image check on google and if the results don't look suspect, I'll chat to see what's up. Most of the time, they are in a location I'm a little wary of so I say thanks and tell them I'll keep it in mind.

[dcman]

Sent you a pm.

Thanks-Mike

[jjkrkwood]

Very interesting, But my question is cant you get in very large LEGAL trouble soliciting non-pros?

 

And soliciting "Pro's" is OK ????