Would you hire him—Mike Austin

[wayout]

The only problem I have with him is that he is posting anonymously with the "full faith and credit" of an escort without the "credentials" or accountability to back it up. It would be like someone giving legal advice without being able to verify that person's membership in the Bar. Yes I know the internet is full of message boards that people claim to be Dr.s that give medical advice etc etc that may or may not really be medical doctors at all and accept that is just part of the power and flaws of the internet. On this website, the escort is the doctor, it is his opinion and advice that so many of us value over others and as such there should be requirements to earn that designation and individual accountability for the opinions expressed.

 

If Max (and only he can make that call) felt it was necessary to have his "credentials" confirmed in a somewhat official way, perhaps he could have Daddy do that by allowing him to verify him as an escort. I believe most have confidence in the integrity of Daddy and that could work. Just an idea/suggestion.

 

Like it or not, our Joey posts one controversial topic after another, but he owns his words and actions. Max posts drivel about how client after client pisses him off for emailing him too much, asking too much, asking too little, posts his 10 Commandments of Escorting as if it were the Word of God, yet has no accountability, no personal responsbility, for anything he writes. Is Max an escort, probably. There are enough escorts on here that vouch for him. But should Max's opinions be taken as any more important than any other individual (including myself) that posts anonymously on this website- absolutely NOT-- at least until he can muster the personal courage to step out of the shadows and back up his professional opinions with his professional reputation.

 

In some ways I disagree, especially with regard to how important his opinions may be while cloaked in anonymity. In some ways, he is not pressured to be politically correct and can really say what perhaps many other escorts think or say in private but won't say it here as they are worried more about how they might be perceived (and ultimately how it could impact their business to some extent). While nothing stops an escort from saying what he really thinks, I suspect many do hold back some and in those cases where they may have expressed their full feelings there can be quite a backlash. The example of Joey and how things went for him here is an example. He seems to have gone quiet because of how things played out.

[seeker630]

I don't think there is any problem that he or anyone else posts anonymously. I think Max should be able to post about anything and as often as he wants to. The only problem I have with him is that he is posting anonymously with the "full faith and credit" of an escort without the "credentials" or accountability to back it up. It would be like someone giving legal advice without being able to verify that person's membership in the Bar. Yes I know the internet is full of message boards that people claim to be Dr.s that give medical advice etc etc that may or may not really be medical doctors at all and accept that is just part of the power and flaws of the internet. On this website, the escort is the doctor, it is his opinion and advice that so many of us value over others and as such there should be requirements to earn that designation and individual accountability for the opinions expressed.

Like it or not, our Joey posts one controversial topic after another, but he owns his words and actions. Max posts drivel about how client after client pisses him off for emailing him too much, asking too much, asking too little, posts his 10 Commandments of Escorting as if it were the Word of God, yet has no accountability, no personal responsbility, for anything he writes. Is Max an escort, probably. There are enough escorts on here that vouch for him. But should Max's opinions be taken as any more important than any other individual (including myself) that posts anonymously on this website- absolutely NOT-- at least until he can muster the personal courage to step out of the shadows and back up his professional opinions with his professional reputation.

 

I would guess that 99% of the posters here are unknown to each other outside this board. There are many posters here who present themselves as clients or make statements about thier professions but we have no proof that they hire or actually are in the profession they claim. So, we all make our own decisions about how much weight to give each other largely on faith (and how often they agree with us, probably.)

[seeker630]

If Max (and only he can make that call) felt it was necessary to have his "credentials" confirmed in a somewhat official way, perhaps he could have Daddy do that by allowing him to verify him as an escort. I believe most have confidence in the integrity of Daddy and that could work. Just an idea/suggestion.

 

 

 

In some ways I disagree, especially with regard to how important his opinions may be while cloaked in anonymity. In some ways, he is not pressured to be politically correct and can really say what perhaps many other escorts think or say in private but won't say it here as they are worried more about how they might be perceived (and ultimately how it could impact their business to some extent). While nothing stops an escort from saying what he really thinks, I suspect many do hold back some and in those cases where they may have expressed their full feelings there can be quite a backlash. The example of Joey and how things went for him here is an example. He seems to have gone quiet because of how things played out.

 

I agree. This forum is very much a double-edged sword for escorts. They can use it as a marketing tool or a place to vent - each choice comes with a price, IMO.

[bigvalboy]

I think if you read carefully what DTB is saying, that his point is well taken. It is a fine line to be sure, but each of us must make a decision as to how much credence we put in someone else. I for one have never taken Max's words at face value simply because he purports to be an escort. In my estimation, that would be foolish.

 

I read what he has to say, and sometimes I agree with him and sometimes not, but it is based on solely what he is saying not based on he credentials. Some may, but I do not. DTB is also correct, the fact that he cloaks himself in anonymity is a little bothersome, especially since many of topics or threads that he starts, come with a sense that he knows more of the truth, because he is after all an escort. That may or may not be his intent, but he certainly comes across with a sense of authority, and on more than one occasion it has bothered me. If one decides that his word carries more weight, because who he says he is, then I would think that is their choice. It becomes a matter of personal interpretation.

 

Several escorts here I have met. I know them, have seen their ads, know many that have reviewed them. When someone like that makes a statement or comments on a topic, I tend to listen more intently, because their words carry weight.

[BostonPhil]

The problem is if Max told you all who he is, he would not be able free to post as openly as he does. I make every attempt to be as open and genuine as I can but I have to make sure I don't step in a huge pile shit and offend half the board. I read every post I write two to three times if it is on a subject I think might be the least bit controversial. I am envious of his freedom to be as frank as he is and if I were a client I would value his input a whole lot more than mine. I'm not telling you anything you don't already know, of course the escorts here with links to their ads are going to hold back a little. We would be out of our minds to not. There are times I have wanted to post to a thread "You all need to grow up, I feel like the oldest kid in the room."

 

Several threads in the past few weeks show how had his identity been known to the board, his business may have been hurt. He values his anonymity here just as much as the rest of you, respect it.

 

As for not trusting what he says cause you can't be sure he is an escort, I don't know that all of you are actually hiring guys. A few of you I do KNOW are but the rest I wouldn't know from John but I still respect and value your opinions when you give them on a variety topics. I said it before and I have no way to be more clear, Max is an escort. Maybe when we tour together later you'll believe me.

[Boner]

Maybe when we tour together later you'll believe me.

 

You guys should open for Cher's new, final, absolutely the last, you haven't seen the last of me, farewell, never can say good-bye tour, coming up soon!

[bigvalboy]

I said it before and I have no way to be more clear, Max is an escort. Maybe when we tour together later you'll believe me

 

Just curious BP...if what you say is in fact true, and we ALL will eventually know who Max really is, then what was the purpose of trying to be so anonymous in the first place. Certainly everything that he has posted in anonymity to protect his status as an escort in the past, would not those very words that he posted in anonymity in the past damage his career going forward once everyone knows who his is?

 

And there is no need for you to answer this directly to me....this is more of a general question that I am proposing to the board as a whole....I am sincerely curious as to the thoughts of others.

[maxwellissmart]

You guys should open for Cher's new, final, absolutely the last, you haven't seen the last of me, farewell, never can say good-bye tour, coming up soon!

 

It gives new meaning to the term opening act.

[seeker630]

I think if you read carefully what DTB is saying, that his point is well taken. It is a fine line to be sure, but each of us must make a decision as to how much credence we put in someone else. I for one have never taken Max's words at face value simply because he purports to be an escort. In my estimation, that would be foolish.

 

I read what he has to say, and sometimes I agree with him and sometimes not, but it is based on solely what he is saying not based on he credentials. Some may, but I do not. DTB is also correct, the fact that he cloaks himself in anonymity is a little bothersome, especially since many of topics or threads that he starts, come with a sense that he knows more of the truth, because he is after all an escort. That may or may not be his intent, but he certainly comes across with a sense of authority, and on more than one occasion it has bothered me. If one decides that his word carries more weight, because who he says he is, then I would think that is their choice. It becomes a matter of personal interpretation.

 

Several escorts here I have met. I know them, have seen their ads, know many that have reviewed them. When someone like that makes a statement or comments on a topic, I tend to listen more intently, because their words carry weight.

 

DTB said "The only problem I have with him is that he is posting anonymously with the "full faith and credit" of an escort without the "credentials" or accountability to back it up....On this website, the escort is the doctor, it is his opinion and advice that so many of us value over others and as such there should be requirements to earn that designation and individual accountability for the opinions expressed.

 

So, Max should not post as an escort until he is somehow 'vetted'?

 

DTB says himself that Max''s opinions should not matter more than anyone else's here but thinks that they do to some members, so Max needs to provide his 'credentials':

But should Max's opinions be taken as any more important than any other individual (including myself) that posts anonymously on this website- absolutely NOT-- at least until he can muster the personal courage to step out of the shadows and back up his professional opinions with his professional reputation.

 

I think that would be a double standard here.

[BostonPhil]

Just curious BP...if what you say is in fact true, and we ALL will eventually know who Max really is, then what was the purpose of trying to be so anonymous in the first place. Certainly everything that he has posted in anonymity to protect his status as an escort in the past, would not those very words that he posted in anonymity in the past damage his career going forward once everyone knows who his is?

 

And there is no need for you to answer this directly to me....this is more of a general question that I am proposing to the board as a whole....I am sincerely curious as to the thoughts of others.

 

Oh, but I will!

 

The problem would only be something I would be worried about for the immediate future. A 411 request comes in for him later and some one says "He was an ass in this thread..." and I am not sure how much weight that would hold. Like the other thread going on now about MF "Friends", I don't think we are all friends but I think we all have friendly relationships, and in any sort of adult relationship there is always room for one to forgive and grow.

 

Will his business be negatively effected by things he has said here, as time passes I would say no. And to be perfectly honest, the number of clients that I see who have no idea about the forum has to be right around 95%. A lot of guys already don't want to get caught looking at RB or M4RN let alone get caught talking about their hires or admitting about it at all.

[BostonPhil]

You guys should open for Cher's new, final, absolutely the last, you haven't seen the last of me, farewell, never can say good-bye tour, coming up soon!

 

This will probably lose me some clients....

 

I hate Cher.

 

On second thought, perhaps it will make me more popular

[bigvalboy]

DTB said "The only problem I have with him is that he is posting anonymously with the "full faith and credit" of an escort without the "credentials" or accountability to back it up....On this website, the escort is the doctor, it is his opinion and advice that so many of us value over others and as such there should be requirements to earn that designation and individual accountability for the opinions expressed.

 

So, Max should not post as an escort until he is somehow 'vetted'?

 

DTB says himself that Max''s opinions should not matter more than anyone else's here but thinks that they do to some members, so Max needs to provide his 'credentials':

But should Max's opinions be taken as any more important than any other individual (including myself) that posts anonymously on this website- absolutely NOT-- at least until he can muster the personal courage to step out of the shadows and back up his professional opinions with his professional reputation.

 

I think that would be a double standard here.

 

 

No one is saying that there is an easy answer here...In my post I do say that there is a fine line, but after listening and reading what has been posted thus far, I think in all fairness, DTB and others do raise some interesting points, certainly worth discussing. No one is attacking Max, certainly not me. If that is the perception, then it is incorrect.

 

I just find the topic quite fascinating, especially since many of us who post here, including myself, want to be taken at face value and want our opinions to matter. I think that is human nature, we all want to matter on some level or another.

[seeker630]

This will probably lose me some clients....

 

I hate Cher.

 

On second thought, perhaps it will make me more popular

 

As with most topics here, it will probably do both.

 

But the overall effect is likely to be negligible.

[Phil_musc]

Believe me, Phil, how you feel about Cher is not a deal breaker or deal maker for me. I suspect I'm not alone in this.

[bigvalboy]

Will his business be negatively effected by things he has said here, as time passes I would say no.

 

Then my question was exactly that, if in fact it will not effect his business going forward, then why the need to be anonymous now? By his own explanation, it allows him to speak freely. If he is not concerned about what others think, then why need for anonymity. I think that is a fair question. Perhaps only Max will have an answer for that. Perhaps he will choose not to address it all. It certianly does not matter, it is Max's life and his choice to make any decision that he deems appropriate.

 

 

 

And to be perfectly honest, the number of clients that I see who have no idea about the forum has to be right around 95%. A lot of guys already don't want to get caught looking at RB or M4RN let alone get caught talking about their hires or admitting about it at all.

 

 

On this I will agree 100%..I have talked to many escorts, and after our session I tell them that I will write a nice review on Daddys, LOL you are right, most have heard of Daddy's, but many have never come to the forum, and also have zero interest in the forum.

 

Those that have heard about it, when I tell them that I will write a nice review, they thank me, but several have said that most of their clients will not even write a review, despite the anonymous nature of the site, for fear of being outed somewhere else in their lives...

[rvwnsd]

This will probably lose me some clients....

 

I hate Cher.

 

On second thought, perhaps it will make me more popular

 

When is the next flight to Boston?

[Toulouse]

This thread is in poor taste...the thread essentially becomes a review about him. It's not fair to him at all, especially since you claim to be an "escort", and are not subject to the same scrutiny.

 

I like Max and enjoy most of his posts. However, I agree 100% with Jawjateck. If Max wishes to post a link to his own ad in this forum and ask clients to give him constructive feedback, that would be justified. But I think it's in very poor taste for an escort to randomly single out fellow escorts and ask clients whether they would hire them, and why or why not? It's like declaring "open season" on a a fellow working guy. It's even worse, for an (anonymous) escort such as Max to give any negative commentary about another escort he's never met (i.e., saying Mike looks "morose" in a photo).

[BostonPhil]

When is the next flight to Boston?

 

All the time!

[maxwellissmart]

I like Max and enjoy most of his posts. However, I agree 100% with Jawjateck. If Max wishes to post a link to his own ad in this forum and ask clients to give him constructive feedback, that would be justified. But I think it's in very poor taste for an escort to randomly single out fellow escorts and ask clients whether they would hire them, and why or why not? It's like declaring "open season" on a a fellow working guy. It's even worse, for an (anonymous) escort such as Max to give any negative commentary about another escort he's never met (i.e., saying Mike looks "morose" in a photo).

 

Well, to be fair—I'd hire Mike Austin.

 

And his BF.

[Boner]

This will probably lose me some clients....

 

I hate Cher.

 

Naw, just some Ridiculously hot and sultry after-tour--after parties.

 

I have no doubt, that there is little to nothing an escort OR non-escort could ever say on a public forum that would turn a horny client or non client sex-partner off or away, if that person is truly, sexually desired. Sexual desire seems to more often trump personal principles and ideals more times than not.

 

With the execption of being a card carrying member of an organization that begins with an N----and ends with an A.

[BostonPhil]

naw, just some ridiculously hot and sultry after-tour--after parties.

 

i have no doubt, that there is little to nothing an escort or non-escort could ever say on a public forum that would turn a horny client or non client sex-partner off or away, if that person is truly, sexually desired. Sexual desire seems to more often trump personal principles and ideals more times than not.

 

With the execption of being a card carrying member of an organization that begins with an n----and ends with an a.

 

nra?

[Boner]

no, it five letters, you have the first and last correct.

[BostonPhil]

Oh! Yeah. Yuck.

[Boner]

I'd hire and fuck Max (is he a top or vers -strickly top/bttm - smooth/hairy?) even though he has used the term cunty, cunty, cunty a number of times here in the forums to express himself. Generally, my principles guide me through life and object to such type expressions - but when it comes to my penis, he generally has the last say. As long as it's an informed and safe say.

[Boner]

Oh! Yeah. Yuck.

 

Worse than Cher?