DOs and DON'Ts

[seeker630]

Great post, Max!

 

Here's something for escorts to consider:

 

 

1. Please remember that this may be my first time and that I may be unfamiliar with the process of hiring and that I’m probably very nervous.

2. Please understand that I want you to be patient and understanding and that I probably won’t know of or consider the red flags or other finer points of the process that you expect from more seasoned clients. I may not be willing to give you desired personal information because I need to be discreet and after all, I don’t know you either. Discretion is just as important to me as it is to you. I may not be aware of the things that are required for your protection and discretion. I’ve probably never looked at the process from your point of view.

3. Please be aware that it is not always easy for me to verbalize my specific wants and expectations. After all you are a stranger to me and I may not want you to pre-judge me as being a flake if I say the wrong thing. I don’t know how “open” you mind is. All I might know is that I saw your ad, you appealed to me and I want to spend some time with you.

4. I may have differing needs, I may just want a one hour physical experience, or I may want a dinner companion or any of the myriad of services that you may offer. Please respect me in my ignorance and know that I want to be treated as your customer even if I don’t fit into your mould of the “perfect client.” I am responding to your ad, I probably don’t know that a website such as Daddy’s Reviews exists so forgive me if I haven’t researched you and know nothing of your strengths or weaknesses.

5. I may have a pre-conceived notion of what hiring an escort is and may think you only sell sex. Your attitude in dealing with me will educate me that you are much more than sex, or confirm to me that I was right.

6. If you are so busy that you don’t have the extra time to deal with an ignorant client like me, be kind and tell me the truth. Don’t assume that by not responding to me or answering my questions will give me the message that you aren’t interested in seeing me. If I make an unreasonable request don’t ignore me, just respectfully decline and tell me why.. it will educate me.

7. Understand that you are in the customer service industry and while it’s easier to deal with clients who have read your list of do’s and don’ts, dealing effectively with potential clients who are all individuals with varying degrees of experience is a real test of your skills. Anyone can provide physical service, it takes a true professional to provide an “experience”.

 

I like that last sentence!

[Guest countryboywny]

I like that last sentence!

 

Thanks Seeker!

I thought of one more thing,

 

8. If you perceive an "attitude" from me at first blush, it might be because I grew up in the "customer is always right" era. I may have no clue that you expect me to make this transaction easy for you, because I'm expecting you to make it easy for me.

[bigvalboy]

Thanks Seeker!

I thought of one more thing,

 

8. If you perceive an "attitude" from me at first blush, it might be because I grew up in the "customer is always right" era. I may have no clue that you expect me to make this transaction easy for you, because I'm expecting you to make it easy for me.

 

Yes that last sentence really says alot Countryboywny...This really got the ol mind going this morning...I gotta run off for a bit, but when I return I have several comments about do' and don'ts for escorts...there is common ground, but none of this is one sided...

[jjkrkwood]

Country, you have eloquently provided this site with the "other" side of the coin, all of which should also be "food for thought" for the escorts when they provide "their laundry lists"..

 

With ALL point on both sides well taken, I would say the key to a successful encounter is "communication" and "openess". Noone is here to read minds or make assumptions.

 

We were given voices, we should use them... Happy Sex to All......

[maxwellissmart]

How about this issue: The escort checks in under their real name, but the hotel won't let you up unless you know their room number and their real name.

 

Solution: check into seedy hotels.

[jjkrkwood]

Solution: check into seedy hotels.

 

But then you incur the additonal expense of Bed-bug repellent, and you cant take off your shoes....

[maxwellissmart]

Great post, Max!

 

Here's something for escorts to consider:

 

 

1. Please remember that this may be my first time and that I may be unfamiliar with the process of hiring and that I’m probably very nervous.

2. Please understand that I want you to be patient and understanding and that I probably won’t know of or consider the red flags or other finer points of the process that you expect from more seasoned clients. I may not be willing to give you desired personal information because I need to be discreet and after all, I don’t know you either. Discretion is just as important to me as it is to you. I may not be aware of the things that are required for your protection and discretion. I’ve probably never looked at the process from your point of view.

3. Please be aware that it is not always easy for me to verbalize my specific wants and expectations. After all you are a stranger to me and I may not want you to pre-judge me as being a flake if I say the wrong thing. I don’t know how “open” you mind is. All I might know is that I saw your ad, you appealed to me and I want to spend some time with you.

4. I may have differing needs, I may just want a one hour physical experience, or I may want a dinner companion or any of the myriad of services that you may offer. Please respect me in my ignorance and know that I want to be treated as your customer even if I don’t fit into your mould of the “perfect client.” I am responding to your ad, I probably don’t know that a website such as Daddy’s Reviews exists so forgive me if I haven’t researched you and know nothing of your strengths or weaknesses.

5. I may have a pre-conceived notion of what hiring an escort is and may think you only sell sex. Your attitude in dealing with me will educate me that you are much more than sex, or confirm to me that I was right.

6. If you are so busy that you don’t have the extra time to deal with an ignorant client like me, be kind and tell me the truth. Don’t assume that by not responding to me or answering my questions will give me the message that you aren’t interested in seeing me. If I make an unreasonable request don’t ignore me, just respectfully decline and tell me why.. it will educate me.

7. Understand that you are in the customer service industry and while it’s easier to deal with clients who have read your list of do’s and don’ts, dealing effectively with potential clients who are all individuals with varying degrees of experience is a real test of your skills. Anyone can provide physical service, it takes a true professional to provide an “experience”.

 

C—I agree completely. What spurned the post at all was the frustrating fact that I couldn't even get my foot in the door with the client who called from the hotel and didn't give me enough info to call him back. And then he called again, of course.

 

1 - I enjoy the hell out of first-time clients, and opening up a new world for them. First time clients are more willing to allow me to take control than not, which plays to my preferences anyway.

 

2 - The red flags I get generally tend to be around a theme of deception, meaning that someone is trying to hide who they are and that they've contacted me before. I'm not sure what else I'm supposed to think, other than that they aren't serious, or are trying to trick me somehow. Yes, it's possible that the kid who has contacted me under 17 aliases and counting is serious, but really? What am I supposed to think when someone does that?

 

3 - That's exactly why I think clients should take the time to verbalize something when they aren't under the gun, so to speak. Have something prepared that is concise and clear. This IS a service industry, and when you can't verbalize what you want it's hard to please you. Keep in mind that there are clients who don't verbalize well but are clearly trying, and clients who say things like: "want 2 suk u how much?" I do differentiate between the two, and the former gets a lot of leeway.

 

4 - I have no concept of the "perfect client," since I've had great experiences in a short time and a long, extended appointment. One day my perfect client might be the fit guy I suck off in the office chair, and the next it might be the heavyset guy who takes me to dinner and makes me snort beer out my nose.

 

5 - Naturally there are clients who want just this. That's cool—I get it. I offer a lot more if you're willing to take me up on it, but if not—that's fine too. This is one of the reasons why I don't do cookie cutter appointments or agree to do something I'm not into, just to collect the money. I'd really prefer to establish an enjoyable connection rather than just get you off, which tends to make me feel kinda used.

 

6 - In my experiences, ignorance is usually paired with a willingness to learn and adapt to the situation, and to find a mutually beneficial solution. When a complete stranger contacts me, shows me disrespect and contempt for both me and the services I offer (for example, I once had a client text me and when I asked him to tell me more about himself and what he was looking for, he responded with: "what the fuck do you care? I'm just another trick to you anyway."), then you're absolutely right—I don't have much patience. Who would? I always have time to answer a question that is phrased correctly or within "the rules of allowability," and even if it's not, I'll try to lead you to an answer more times than not.

 

7 - I've been in the CS industry for most of my working life. And yes, it is true that the most successful escorts are generally the ones who are the most flexible and try to "escort" their clients to having an shared intimate experience. The point with the OP is that there are mistakes that people make that are more common than you would think, and are often made without thinking. Some are based on technique, some are missteps based on a client trying to be overzealous with their privacy, and others are simply a reflection of who the client is. My OP was meant for clients to hold up and compare themselves to it and ask: "do I do any of these things?" There are many posts on this board about experiences that have gone awry and indeed, sometimes it's one little thing that can be pinpointed that caused a cascade of failure. I can generally point to an exact moment in a less-than-positive experience with a client, and I think most clients can do the same. Keep in mind that this post isn't meant for me to show how superior I am as an escort—in fact, it's to reflect that I have problems with clients and would like some help in solving them. Since I doubt that under my current persona I'm ever going to see most of the clients on the board—think of this as a nudge from the Greek chorus or the fly on the wall to always examine your experiences with a critical eye to see if they can be better. Like I said in a prior post, when I have a negative experience—the first thing I do is ask: "what the hell happened and why?" I don't meet with people typically when I know something is likely to go wrong, I try to meet only clients with whom I feel there's a strong chance that we'll have a great time.

[maxwellissmart]

But then you incur the additonal expense of Bed-bug repellent, and you cant take off your shoes....

 

God—don't think I haven't worried about that. I made the mistake of tricking with an escort once on my own time and he gave me fucking crabs. And yes, he's well-reviewed and on this board, and I was ready to shoot him because I was 2 days away from a trip to see a regular. I had to go home and take a bath in bleach and use about 5 packages of RID and pray.

[BostonPhil]

6 - In my experiences, ignorance is usually paired with a willingness to learn and adapt to the situation, and to find a mutually beneficial solution. When a complete stranger contacts me, shows me disrespect and contempt for both me and the services I offer (for example, I once had a client text me and when I asked him to tell me more about himself and what he was looking for, he responded with: "what the fuck do you care? I'm just another trick to you anyway."), then you're absolutely right—I don't have much patience. Who would? I always have time to answer a question that is phrased correctly or within "the rules of allowability," and even if it's not, I'll try to lead you to an answer more times than not.

 

This is most often the cause of me not responding to a client. Sometimes a question has been stated in such a way that a response either way could put us in a sticky situation, and not the good kind. The safest solution becomes us acting as though we never got the message.

[maxwellissmart]

This is most often the cause of me not responding to a client. Sometimes a question has been stated in such a way that a response either way could put us in a sticky situation, and not the good kind. The safest solution becomes us acting as though we never got the message.

 

By the way—BostonPhil was the one who gave me crabs. Filthy ho. And when I contacted him about it he acted like he never got the message.

[bigvalboy]

God—don't think I haven't worried about that. I made the mistake of tricking with an escort once on my own time and he gave me fucking crabs. And yes, he's well-reviewed and on this board, and I was ready to shoot him because I was 2 days away from a trip to see a regular. I had to go home and take a bath in bleach and use about 5 packages of RID and pray.

 

Cities with the highest Bed Bug infestation, reported by Terminix: according to incidents reported and customer complaints were......wait for it!!!

 

#5 Detroit

#4 Chicago..oops, I'll bring spray

#3 NYC

#2 Cincinati..What? great city. What happened Cinci?

#1 City of brotherly love..Philadelphia

[BostonPhil]

By the way—BostonPhil was the one who gave me crabs. Filthy ho. And when I contacted him about it he acted like he never got the message.

 

 

OMG Gross!

[josephga]

lol

[BostonPhil]

lol

 

he wishes I gave him crabs

[Guest countryboywny]

C—I agree completely. What spurned the post at all was the frustrating fact that I couldn't even get my foot in the door with the client who called from the hotel and didn't give me enough info to call him back. And then he called again, of course.

 

1 - I enjoy the hell out of first-time clients, and opening up a new world for them. First time clients are more willing to allow me to take control than not, which plays to my preferences anyway.

 

2 - The red flags I get generally tend to be around a theme of deception, meaning that someone is trying to hide who they are and that they've contacted me before. I'm not sure what else I'm supposed to think, other than that they aren't serious, or are trying to trick me somehow. Yes, it's possible that the kid who has contacted me under 17 aliases and counting is serious, but really? What am I supposed to think when someone does that?

 

3 - That's exactly why I think clients should take the time to verbalize something when they aren't under the gun, so to speak. Have something prepared that is concise and clear. This IS a service industry, and when you can't verbalize what you want it's hard to please you. Keep in mind that there are clients who don't verbalize well but are clearly trying, and clients who say things like: "want 2 suk u how much?" I do differentiate between the two, and the former gets a lot of leeway.

 

4 - I have no concept of the "perfect client," since I've had great experiences in a short time and a long, extended appointment. One day my perfect client might be the fit guy I suck off in the office chair, and the next it might be the heavyset guy who takes me to dinner and makes me snort beer out my nose.

 

5 - Naturally there are clients who want just this. That's cool—I get it. I offer a lot more if you're willing to take me up on it, but if not—that's fine too. This is one of the reasons why I don't do cookie cutter appointments or agree to do something I'm not into, just to collect the money. I'd really prefer to establish an enjoyable connection rather than just get you off, which tends to make me feel kinda used.

 

6 - In my experiences, ignorance is usually paired with a willingness to learn and adapt to the situation, and to find a mutually beneficial solution. When a complete stranger contacts me, shows me disrespect and contempt for both me and the services I offer (for example, I once had a client text me and when I asked him to tell me more about himself and what he was looking for, he responded with: "what the fuck do you care? I'm just another trick to you anyway."), then you're absolutely right—I don't have much patience. Who would? I always have time to answer a question that is phrased correctly or within "the rules of allowability," and even if it's not, I'll try to lead you to an answer more times than not.

 

7 - I've been in the CS industry for most of my working life. And yes, it is true that the most successful escorts are generally the ones who are the most flexible and try to "escort" their clients to having an shared intimate experience. The point with the OP is that there are mistakes that people make that are more common than you would think, and are often made without thinking. Some are based on technique, some are missteps based on a client trying to be overzealous with their privacy, and others are simply a reflection of who the client is. My OP was meant for clients to hold up and compare themselves to it and ask: "do I do any of these things?" There are many posts on this board about experiences that have gone awry and indeed, sometimes it's one little thing that can be pinpointed that caused a cascade of failure. I can generally point to an exact moment in a less-than-positive experience with a client, and I think most clients can do the same. Keep in mind that this post isn't meant for me to show how superior I am as an escort—in fact, it's to reflect that I have problems with clients and would like some help in solving them. Since I doubt that under my current persona I'm ever going to see most of the clients on the board—think of this as a nudge from the Greek chorus or the fly on the wall to always examine your experiences with a critical eye to see if they can be better. Like I said in a prior post, when I have a negative experience—the first thing I do is ask: "what the hell happened and why?" I don't meet with people typically when I know something is likely to go wrong, I try to meet only clients with whom I feel there's a strong chance that we'll have a great time.

 

First, Max, you don't have to defend your OP or the reason you wrote it. It's valuable information and my reply post was in no way meant to respond to it negatively. My post was meant to show the "other side of the coin" so to speak. I firmly believe this type of back and forth activity is a learning experience for both sides and while a lot of what I said is obvious to many, some may have never considered it. Thanks for your thoughtful post, and on your assertion that you'd probably never see any clients from this board because of your "persona", I'd love to meet you, but because I can't find out who you really are, how would I find you?

[Guest countryboywny]

This is most often the cause of me not responding to a client. Sometimes a question has been stated in such a way that a response either way could put us in a sticky situation, and not the good kind. The safest solution becomes us acting as though we never got the message.

 

What about nicely saying "I don't respond to this type of question." Acting like you never got the message will make your potential client feel he is being ignored, or worse, cause him to repeatedly ask the same question.

[raulgmanzo]

How about this issue: The escort checks in under their real name, but the hotel won't let you up unless you know their room number and their real name.

 

Usually I don't have a problem telling a client my real name, I just don't want my real name online.

But another simple solution is almost the same as for clients wanting to preserve their anonymity.

I check in with my real name and ID, and then tell the hotel that I will be joined later by Mr. Manzo who may be receiving calls or visitors.

 

Solution: check into seedy hotels.

But some of the cheapest hotels have either no visitor rules, or will make a visitor actually leave an ID at the front desk. Whereas many of the upscale hotels allow the visiting escort or client to just walk right on up. Of course it helps to look like one belongs, and to give a nice big smile as you pass the front desk and greet the undercover security which the better hotels have in lieu of awkward sign-in procedures. Though some hotels will require signing in or calling up after a certain hour such as midnight.

[jjkrkwood]

By the way—BostonPhil was the one who gave me crabs. Filthy ho. And when I contacted him about it he acted like he never got the message.

 

I cant believe THAT. BP is so thin, the crabs dont have any meat to live on. slander I say....SLANDER !

 

Why dont you just come clean and say it was your obsession, JOEY ?

[jjkrkwood]

he wishes I gave him crabs

 

Are crabs even in season ??? Maybe a SOFT-shelled crab ?

[cany10011]

True customer is always right, but intimacy cannot be forced and sometimes a little wooing and being polite will go a long way.

[maxwellissmart]

What about nicely saying "I don't respond to this type of question." Acting like you never got the message will make your potential client feel he is being ignored, or worse, cause him to repeatedly ask the same question.

 

I have yet to book an appointment with a client after using the phrase: "I don't respond to this type of question."

[Guest countryboywny]

I have yet to book an appointment with a client after using the phrase: "I don't respond to this type of question."

 

I'm sure that's true, but I was offering a suggestion as to how to end the discussion without the client feeling ignored, and the escort not being bombarded with email asking the question over and over.

[Guest countryboywny]

True customer is always right, but intimacy cannot be forced and sometimes a little wooing and being polite will go a long way.

 

Amen!

[maxwellissmart]

I'm sure that's true, but I was offering a suggestion as to how to end the discussion without the client feeling ignored, and the escort not being bombarded with email asking the question over and over.

 

It usually ends the discussion, all right.

[maxwellissmart]

First, Max, you don't have to defend your OP or the reason you wrote it. It's valuable information and my reply post was in no way meant to respond to it negatively. My post was meant to show the "other side of the coin" so to speak. I firmly believe this type of back and forth activity is a learning experience for both sides and while a lot of what I said is obvious to many, some may have never considered it. Thanks for your thoughtful post, and on your assertion that you'd probably never see any clients from this board because of your "persona", I'd love to meet you, but because I can't find out who you really are, how would I find you?

 

Just call me and leave me your hotel and room number! Wait—what?