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And erotic massages well you get what you pay for, but when someone advertises erotic, I am very explicit as to what I expect will or will not happen. An erotic massage is NOT AN ESCORT SERVICE. You want full on sex, then pay for it damn-it.

 

There's no way for us as clients to know what any particular provider means by "erotic massage", at least not on the first visit. One person's "erotic massage" might be another's full escort service. In particular, looking at the ads I see many guys who provide naked massages at massage rates. The unwillingness of many providers to describe what they will do doesn't help. Nor does the unwillingness or inability of many clients to say what they want.

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There's no way for us as clients to know what any particular provider means by "erotic massage", at least not on the first visit. One person's "erotic massage" might be another's full escort service. In particular, looking at the ads I see many guys who provide naked massages at massage rates. The unwillingness of many providers to describe what they will do doesn't help. Nor does the unwillingness or inability of many clients to say what they want.

 

OK, so everyone is just playing a big ole game ??? Sounds like an incredibly Big waste of time to me ?

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There's no way for us as clients to know what any particular provider means by "erotic massage", at least not on the first visit.

 

Not necessarily true rguer..This has been discussed before, but I have NEVER had a misunderstanding in all the years I have been doing this. By my definition, an erotic massage is done in the nude, it is very erotic in that there is ALWAYS a 'happy ending'..I however, NEVER assume that. When I call for an appointment, I am very specific as to what I want to occur. I ask three simple questions 1) Will this be done in the nude? 2) is there mutual touch? 3) is there a 'happy ending'? a NO to any of those questions, and I simply thank them and move on to someone else. There can be no disappointment if you communicate specifically what you expect.

 

 

 

One person's "erotic massage" might be another's full escort service. The unwillingness of many providers to describe what they will do doesn't help.

 

That is why it is imperative that you communicate clearly and concisely with the masseur. If he answers anything that is vague or unclear and will not be specific, then I just move on, why on earth would you take the chance on someone that is unwilling to be clear with you? I don't leave anything to chance. All of these problems occur only when two people are not on the same page. I NEVER assume an erotic massage will trascend into an escort service, if you do, or think in those terms, you are setting yourself up for disappointment. You want sex? then go pay for an escort...this of course is only my opinion, everyone out there chooses to operate differently. Do what you feel is best for you.

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the easy solution is don't hire masseur's hoping for sex if one wants sex stick with escorts.
True, BUT many have found sex included with the massage at a lower price and continue to seek those situations out. I think a lot of the sex that might occur with a massage (therapeutic, sensual or erotic) depends on who is on the table and how turned on the masseur is. That can even change with the same person on the table depending on the day.
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True, BUT many have found sex included with the massage at a lower price and continue to seek those situations out. I think a lot of the sex that might occur with a massage (therapeutic, sensual or erotic) depends on who is on the table and how turned on the masseur is. That can even change with the same person on the table depending on the day.

 

LOL yes that is the problem, and a good point Travis...when guys have gotten sex during a massage before and then continue hoping that it will occur again. It has happened to me several times, but the difference is that I don't go into any massage thinking that will happen. I NEVER expect that a massage will transcend into sex. If it does, great, but if not, then I don't leave disappointed, because I never assumed sex would happen in the first place.

 

If guys are too cheap to pay for an escort and keep trying to find sex during a massage, then I would say that is a personal problem...LOL LOL

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LOL yes that is the problem, and a good point Travis...when guys have gotten sex during a massage before and then continue hoping that it will occur again. It has happened to me several times, but the difference is that I don't go into any massage thinking that will happen. I NEVER expect that a massage will transcend into sex. If it does, great, but if not, then I don't leave disappointed, because I never assumed sex would happen in the first place.

 

If guys are too cheap to pay for an escort and keep trying to find sex during a massage, then I would say that is a personal problem...LOL LOL

 

BVB - You are smart and rational. Most men aren't.

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True, BUT many have found sex included with the massage at a lower price and continue to seek those situations out. I think a lot of the sex that might occur with a massage (therapeutic, sensual or erotic) depends on who is on the table and how turned on the masseur is. That can even change with the same person on the table depending on the day.

 

and THAT has been my conundrum from day 1 here. WHY spend $300 hr when if doing a lillte homework you can get your rocks off for $125 ???? It seems that most members here that post about massage eithere "wanted" or "got" sex during their session. Wasnt that the intention from the start ????

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It seems that most members here that post about massage eithere "wanted" or "got" sex during their session. Wasnt that the intention from the start ????

 

 

 

I know you have always believed that those of us that get massages are really looking for cheap sex...BUT Simply put...NO!!! I want sex, I will hire an escort, I want a massage, I will hire a masseur. If I get sex during a massage session, because for some reason the masseur and I click..GREAT!!! if not then I still walk away a happy guy, because I NEVER expect or assume that sex is part of the massage....some might, but not me.

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There's no way for us as clients to know what any particular provider means by "erotic massage", at least not on the first visit. One person's "erotic massage" might be another's full escort service. In particular, looking at the ads I see many guys who provide naked massages at massage rates. The unwillingness of many providers to describe what they will do doesn't help. Nor does the unwillingness or inability of many clients to say what they want.

 

Fair enough, but the key complaint here is don't ask me if I perform a lot of escortish-type activities and then call for smelling salts when I give you an escorting rate.

 

"But sir, you have misunderstood my intention. I'm looking for a therapeutic massage! You know, the kind where you strip."

"Ohhh! Right."

 

If truth were known, the only real difference between "escorting con Max" and "erotic massage" is that I don't come with the latter. Although I break that rule on occasion. With erotic massage you gets the rubdown* (*lotion extra). You gets the rimjob. You gets the blowjob-handjob attachment. Hell, I'll even throw in a kiss or two. Had Mister Creepy Cheapskate not been cutting corners (going so far as to ask me how much a 20 minute massage would be), then he could have had all this and perhaps even more.

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and THAT has been my conundrum from day 1 here. WHY spend $300 hr when if doing a lillte homework you can get your rocks off for $125 ???? It seems that most members here that post about massage eithere "wanted" or "got" sex during their session. Wasnt that the intention from the start ????

 

That is the case at times, but most clients I see want a BFE with interaction and intimacy. A massage for them is clinical and detached.

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With erotic massage you gets the rubdown* You gets the rimjob. You gets the blowjob-handjob attachment. Hell, I'll even throw in a kiss or two.

 

Hell...Just give me a time and date, and I will be there.....FYI Max..that is very generous of you, but no one should ever expect that much from an 'Erotic' massage. That is borderline escort services, actually that is escort services...you tryin to spoil da boys? Ya lit deez bitches taste dat shit, and it be game over fo U cowboy...

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Hell...Just give me a time and date, and I will be there.....FYI Max..that is very generous of you, but no one should ever expect that much from an 'Erotic' massage. That is borderline escort services, actually that is escort services...you tryin to spoil da boys? Ya lit deez bitches taste dat shit, and it be game over fo U cowboy...

 

It's a marketing tool—a loss leader, if you will. The majority of massage clients I've seen are repeats, and many come back wanting to go a little deeper, as it were. I can also combine multiple appointments this way, without worrying about being tired or spent, and still be able to give someone the experience that they paid for and expect. You spend money to make money—and I don't see this as any different than buying toys or gear, spending money on a website or listings, or the gas to drive to see clients for outcalls. And I enjoy the hell out of massage—it's very relaxing.

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