Escorts and face pictures

[down_to_business]

I saw this topic being discussed in a travel thread. I wanted to comment but I didn't want to hijack the travel thread and I wanted to generalize it for discussion as to me it has nothing to do with any single escort.

 

Being in LA too, I was really wanting to look you up, but went to your site and it says you never send out face pics. So not sure how else to know if you are my type or not. Your reviews on here are great, so thats a plus. So I was torn about what to do.

 

I guess its the fact that ones persons type is not anothers, and what some find handsome I may not. Or at least enough to pay for services. Not to say you arent handsome steven, im just making an observation.

 

I guess what the thread and the responses to the comments by jridge3 got me thinking about is.

Q1) Would you hire an escort without seeing his face picture?

 

A1: In the past I have but unfortunately the reality has never lived up to my expectation. I am not saying that any escort that won't show their face is unattractive, but what I am saying is that (for me) physical attractiveness is a huge requirement of my HIRING (this isn't as true for hook-ups- just for my paid encounters), When I see an incredible body by an escort with no face, I am forced to make a mental image of what I think (or hope) the escort will look like. In the past when I have done this, what shows up never comes close to my imagination and it causes me to lose interest in the session right there. The ironic part is that the guy may be physically attractive and if he would have posted his face picture to begin with, I probably would have hired him. Unfortunately my imagination sets a higher standard that reality has never been able to live up to so far. Like jridge3, I want to see the face pic before I hire, period. There should be nothing wrong with that position. Liken this to a favorite book you read and how excited you are that they are turning it into a movie. You go see the movie only to find out that your favorite character in the book, the one you visualized being played by Brad Pitt, is actually starring Carrot Top. I don't know about you, but this ruins the movie for me!

 

Q2) Why would you say go ahead an hire so and so, I have seen them and they are handsome (etc etc).

 

A2: We all find different things attractive. Just because something looks great to me, you might think it is fugly. Case in point our pick one / which one for you threads. Not all of us pick the same guy. Isn't it a little presumptuous to expect someone else to like something just because you do? Do you really get offended if (for example) someone doesn't want or like exactly what you like?

 

My point is go ahead and make recommendations, write reviews, answer questions, make comments. Just keep in mind that we all have different likes and dislikes, interests, and that its ok. The posters question/comment was legitimate. If what someone looks like is so important to his hiring process, you should think twice before telling him to go ahead and hire someone (sight unseen) just because you like him.

 

So ends today's rant!

[JT Brooklyn]

Thanks for answering your own questions. This Topic has been discussed many times over the Year's.

 

BUT Beauty is still in the eye of the beholder and apparently alot of us see differently! That's The way of the World....

[tyro]

I'm not a fan of "extrapolating" the rest of a guy's face either. Two of my hires showed themselves only from the nose down, so I ended up trying to guess the rest. Neither was what I expected. For one of them, that was fine; but the other was a disappointment.

[jjkrkwood]

Some of us have "impaired" vision, some of us have cataracts... And some of us have unique and distinct tastes. Beauty truly is in the eye of the beholder, and if you are happy with your choices, thats all that really matters....

[seeker630]

I have hired a few escorts without a face pic, although I prefer to see one in advance. However, the face isn;t as important to me as it is to you, and I don't require that someone be 'handsome' - average is fine for me.

 

But if it is important to you, and you know that there's a reasonable chance that your expectations won't be met, then there's certainly nothing wrong with declining to hire without a face pic. If you're not comfortable taking the risk, then don't.

 

I think that sometimes we don't fuil appreciate the individual tastes here and what is required for a fulfilling experience. I can remember previous posts recommending that someone hire xxx, even tho he is strictly top and the client wants a bottom, because the 'promoter' had a wonderful time without topping.

 

if you're paying, I think it behooves you to be selective and hire those guys who appear to present the greatest likelihood of a fulfilling encounter.

[maxwellissmart]

I have hired a few escorts without a face pic, although I prefer to see one in advance. However, the face isn;t as important to me as it is to you, and I don't require that someone be 'handsome' - average is fine for me.

 

But if it is important to you, and you know that there's a reasonable chance that your expectations won't be met, then there's certainly nothing wrong with declining to hire without a face pic. If you're not comfortable taking the risk, then don't.

 

I think that sometimes we don't fuil appreciate the individual tastes here and what is required for a fulfilling experience. I can remember previous posts recommending that someone hire xxx, even tho he is strictly top and the client wants a bottom, because the 'promoter' had a wonderful time without topping.

 

if you're paying, I think it behooves you to be selective and hire those guys who appear to present the greatest likelihood of a fulfilling encounter.

 

As someone who doesn't send out face pics—I understand and accept when it's a deal breaker for a potential client. I'm not going to press someone to meet with me and go out of their comfort zone if that's what they require. Likewise, a client who tries to press me to send them a face shot with either the caveat that they won't meet without one or that the pic will only be used by them is going to get shot down. I have plenty of great reviews, I present myself well in copy and in person, and I always offer to show up or meet in a public place without expectation of continuing further if you don't like what you see. I can't offer any more than that.

[seeker630]

As someone who doesn't send out face pics—I understand and accept when it's a deal breaker for a potential client. I'm not going to press someone to meet with me and go out of their comfort zone if that's what they require. Likewise, a client who tries to press me to send them a face shot with either the caveat that they won't meet without one or that the pic will only be used by them is going to get shot down. I have plenty of great reviews, I present myself well in copy and in person, and I always offer to show up or meet in a public place without expectation of continuing further if you don't like what you see. I can't offer any more than that.

 

Max, that's your prerogative and I understand your position. IMO, any hire needs to meet the requirements of both parties - escort AND client. Either is free to decline if their requirements/conditions aren't met.

[jjkrkwood]

Max, that's your prerogative and I understand your position. IMO, any hire needs to meet the requirements of both parties - escort AND client. Either is free to decline if their requirements/conditions aren't met.

 

And you saw how well that worked out for Sean Caden and citylaw ! :D

[maxwellissmart]

And you saw how well that worked out for Sean Caden and citylaw ! :D

 

What's funny about that is his latest review apparently did this:

 

Client text: "Hi Sean, I'd like to hire you."

 

Sean text: "Okay."

[+ not2rowdy]

Q1) Would you hire an escort without seeing his face picture?...

 

VERY unlikely. The face tells me a lot and is the first thing I look for. Then price. Then torso shot(s) to fill in the blanks.

 

In my particular case I don't need to see a spread cheek asshole, or even an erect dick. But the face is what makes the initial cut. And there is a very wide variety of faces that I find attractive. I will take a second glance if there is a partial or intentionally blurred facial photo. But, so far, I have not hired an escort without a full face picture. (In the interest of full disclosure my number of escort hires so far is few).

 

In the case of massage I have paid for strictly therapeutic massage without seeing the masseur in advance.

 

And, while not a deal breaker, a smile helps too.

[olympus]

There is no guarantee that the face picture actually depicts the person you are considering. Since most of the Rentboy ads use phony pictures, or pictures taken in a previous decade, when a phony body shot is supplemented by an emailed phony face picture, that's par for the course.

[seeker630]

And you saw how well that worked out for Sean Caden and citylaw ! :D

 

No baiting, please!

[down_to_business]

As someone who doesn't send out face pics—I understand and accept when it's a deal breaker for a potential client. I'm not going to press someone to meet with me and go out of their comfort zone if that's what they require. Likewise, a client who tries to press me to send them a face shot with either the caveat that they won't meet without one or that the pic will only be used by them is going to get shot down. I have plenty of great reviews, I present myself well in copy and in person, and I always offer to show up or meet in a public place without expectation of continuing further if you don't like what you see. I can't offer any more than that.

 

Max, I personally accept that offer as compromise, but unfortunately not many offer a no obligation personal meeting like you do. Unfortunately, the majority of escorts I usually go for are not located in my general vacinity. Due to past disappointments, I can't fly someone to me or fly out to see someone (both of which I have done) without seeing an accurate face picture. This would work for local hires, however, as long as it was a no obligation no hard feelings face to face meeting.

[jjkrkwood]

There is no guarantee that the face picture actually depicts the person you are considering. Since most of the Rentboy ads use phony pictures, or pictures taken in a previous decade, when a phony body shot is supplemented by an emailed phony face picture, that's par for the course.

 

I wouldnt say that MOST on Rentboy use fake pics, but a good percentage do, I believe use less than current pics..... Not sure if the escorts truly believe the client wont notice ?

Based on the comments from alot of members here, they certainly HAVE carried thru with escorts that werent what they represented themselves to be. Why ? Fear, embarrassment, horniness... Lets face it, unless you are a repeat customer for a selected escort, its all a crap shoot.

[Jaker27]

With a face pic it might be dated but at least it should be them. You'd think anyways. The cock/bod pics are so much easier to fake. I mean allot take other pics of bods/dicks and that probably they think are a close match to their own. Just do the google screen check or download this FF ad on app.. http://lightshot.skillbrains.com/

[+ goosh69]

A related issue is when they are bald or balding but you can't tell because no head pic OR a hat on.

[cooldemo03]

I'm just wondering why some escorts will not send out a face pic. Its one thing to not advertise with a face pic if you want privacy or whatever, but why not send out one when a potential client is serious about meeting. I dont get it. Escorts should realize that many of us want to hire someone who is physically attractive to us. And going in without a pic (and them expecting us to) doesnt make sense to me.

[Guest Merlin155]

Personally I would not hire an escort without seeing his face. The face for me is one of the most attractive features of a man if I'm going to fancy him.

[William]

Max is right

 

Let me pick up on one of Max's comments (which were, as usual, quite logical and sensible).

 

Face is very important to me, and I usually will not set up a date without a face picture, even if dated (as many are, unfortunately). But on a few occasions, the other guy will make Max's suggestion, and frankly that has always worked out very well for me.

 

To give a specific example, whom I reviewed, that was the procedure I followed for Ares of NYC--who says in his ad he looks like Christopher Reeve (wow I thought). We met and I thought he was (for my taste) even hotter than the late Mr. C. Reeve, and so off we went. I had a great time and submitted a rave review.

 

IMHO, meeting the other guy outside for a chat or at a coffee house or bar for a drink is very much in the client's interest, and it preserves the escort's need for discretion.

 

So two thumbs and three cheers for Max's Modus Operandi.

[seeker630]

I'm just wondering why some escorts will not send out a face pic. Its one thing to not advertise with a face pic if you want privacy or whatever, but why not send out one when a potential client is serious about meeting. I dont get it. Escorts should realize that many of us want to hire someone who is physically attractive to us. And going in without a pic (and them expecting us to) doesnt make sense to me.

 

Playing Devils's advocate here - you're asking the escort to expose his identity to a stranger. Until you actually meet, how can he judge how 'serious' you are? Certainly there are lots of 'pic collectors' on the online hook-up sites.

 

A face pic is usually a requirement for me too, but I understand why some escorts are unwilling to share, and I respect their choice.

[down_to_business]

Let me pick up on one of Max's comments (which were, as usual, quite logical and sensible).

 

Face is very important to me, and I usually will not set up a date without a face picture, even if dated (as many are, unfortunately). But on a few occasions, the other guy will make Max's suggestion, and frankly that has always worked out very well for me.

 

IMHO, meeting the other guy outside for a chat or at a coffee house or bar for a drink is very much in the client's interest, and it preserves the escort's need for discretion.

 

So two thumbs and three cheers for Max's Modus Operandi.

 

 

Would you feel the same way about this if you had to drive 2 hours each way to meet, just to discover this person wasn't your cup of tea?

 

How about if you only had to take a one hour subway ride each way?

 

I agree this method has its limited usefullness, if you live inside a major metropolis nearby, but wouldn't you prefer not to waste each other's time to begin with?

 

Aren't their secure websites that you can mkae a face pic available without being able to copy it?

Is it really so terrible to send a fully clothed face pic out to someone?

[cooldemo03]

Would you feel the same way about this if you had to drive 2 hours each way to meet, just to discover this person wasn't your cup of tea?

 

How about if you only had to take a one hour subway ride each way?

 

I agree this method has its limited usefullness, if you live inside a major metropolis nearby, but wouldn't you prefer not to waste each other's time to begin with?

 

Aren't their secure websites that you can mkae a face pic available without being able to copy it?

Is it really so terrible to send a fully clothed face pic out to someone?

 

This. I dont see the big deal about sending out a pic of yourself, fully clothed. Absolutely nothing will happen if the escort would do that. Even if it is a so-called "pic collector" there is still no harm done by sending out a pic. Besides not everyone is a pic collector, majority will be people who are interested in the escort legitimately. And the escort is still meeting the client eventually anyway, so its not like they will never see the escorts face. But like the above poster said, it's the escorts choice.

[Boner]

...... but why not send out one when a potential client is serious about meeting.

 

It would be my guess that there are as many creepy clients out there playing the serious about meeting game as there are regular guys, who are just trying to hook up via some other digital means other than an escort scenario. To many of these people, it's a game just to get more of your personal photos, info, or worse yet, just to fuck up your night or schedule. If these people are in the general hook-up population, as they are, then it's safe to say they're in the client-escort population too.

 

If you have a no face pic policy for your own personal reasons, then there really shouldn't be any reason or occasion to change it based upon what a horny man who says he wants to meet you, might tell you.

 

Even if it's "I'll buy you those shoes you've been wanting"

[RockHard]

Would you hire an escort without seeing his face

 

Never.

 

the face is what makes the initial cut...there is a very wide variety of faces that I find attractive

I don't require that someone be 'handsome' - average is fine for me.

 

"Handsome" and "average" are relative, subjective terms, impossible to quantify. There is no question my tastes are specific, but they are also quite broad. I find a lot of faces sexy. I've had sex with hundreds of men, none of whom look alike. But there are certain facial features, regardless of heritage, that just won't do it for me, like thin lips and overly broad cheekbones, and I need to see the essence of a man's face to feel confident when I hire.

 

A face photo speaks volumes: heritage, sweetness, masculinity, style and grooming, sexy features. While I love a competent communicator, words can acceptably replace a visual only if you're blind.

 

There is no guarantee that the face picture actually depicts the person you are considering. Since most of the Rentboy ads use phony pictures, or pictures taken in a previous decade

 

Fake pictures and old photos are two separate issues. Fraud should be reported and punished. A 10-year-old image could still work as long as the escort still resembles the person in the photo. Frankly, I think I look better now than I did 10 years ago.

 

I don't need to see a spread cheek asshole

 

For me, photos of the ass can really drive a sale home. They are my #1 facilitator in hiring.

 

or even an erect dick

 

I care more about flaccid cock visual than I do erect. I find flaccid cock utterly sexy, no matter the size.

 

I don't see the big deal about sending out a pic of yourself...Absolutely nothing will happen if the escort would do that.

 

The profession is illegal, so it's a little foolhardy to talk in terms of absolutes. There are no guarantees. On the other hand, if you're a suspect of a crime, all the investigator needs is your IP address, which every email has. And a hidden camera at your meet-n-greet will certainly add a current photo to your file.

 

I'm not sure how to cope with doing business in an illegal world. Everything I do for work has a lawyer's touch attached. Unless an escort tells you his specific reasons for not offering some kind of face photo, it's difficult to counter with intelligent feedback.

 

Aren't their secure websites that you can make a face pic available without being able to copy it?

 

It is very easy to host a Flash slideshow on the internet, and not have the photos linked to a legal identity. Images displayed in Flash are not easy to steal, which is why many photographers have Flash sites. If the slideshow runs fast, it is very difficult to make a screen shot. But a determined pic collector has his talent honed.

 

Like I said, without knowing specific reasons, I find it hard to accept the argument for no face photo. I look at model and actor 8x10s all day long, every day. The images are tack sharp, and I could never identify these people on the street. So my view on this subject is based on some serious "real time" experience of trying to match a photo to a human face.

 

I always offer to show up or meet in a public place without expectation of continuing further if you don't like what you see.

 

Since I live in NYC, which has thousands of escorts, that really works for me. Also, a chance to test chemistry is a five-star marketing tool. I wish more escorts offered this super smart service. Too many are lazy, trying to make an easy buck.

[olympus]

A thoughtful summary, RockHard. You say fraudulent pictures should be "reported and punished." Reported to whom and punished by whom? Clearly not Rentboy as there is ample evidence that the site doe not consider itself responsible for ads posted there.