A Weighty Issue

[JoeyBryant]

Apparently the guy who just contacted me falls into that category. He wanted an overnight and was all like: oh, I know it's going to be magic blah blah blah, do you want pictures of me, and I suggested that we meet for an hour first to make sure I'm what he's looking for in an overnight... oh no no no no no, that's completely unnecessary since I know we'll get along like long-lost lovers, by the way—how much?

 

(insert sound of crickets after I sent him the rate)

 

So much for that.

 

Well you mind if you tell how much the rate was for?

 

I feel that with stuff like overnights...I no longer like to stand by 1 flat rate. I list it, but it's basically there as a guide to get an idea of what an overnight would be. I say it's negotiable because every overnight is different. 1 may include marathon s*x, one may be a high end dining experience and s*x, s*x at night but not in the morning, travel or local. Just so many variables. I can get more or get less.

 

Listing an overnight rate prevents having to guess about it too much, but at the same time if I can get as close to the rate as possible either more for traveling or perhaps less for local 'on the spot' overnights (overnights that weren't originally planned) then I'm happy.

 

With that protocol, I have been finding overnights increasing steadily over time. I used to ask for $1,200...and just didn't get them as often. But to just blatantly not respond pretty much means either he doesn't know how to negotiate what he wants out of an overnight or he was expecting to get for like 3 or 400 bucks.

[maxwellissmart]

Well you mind if you tell how much the rate was for?

 

I feel that with stuff like overnights...I no longer like to stand by 1 flat rate. I list it, but it's basically there as a guide to get an idea of what an overnight would be. I say it's negotiable because every overnight is different. 1 may include marathon s*x, one may be a high end dining experience and s*x, s*x at night but not in the morning, travel or local. Just so many variables. I can get more or get less.

 

Listing an overnight rate prevents having to guess about it too much, but at the same time if I can get as close to the rate as possible either more for traveling or perhaps less for local 'on the spot' overnights (overnights that weren't originally planned but happened because, well I'm just good like that) then I'm happy.

 

With that protocol, I have been finding overnights increasing steadily over time. I used to ask for $1,200...and just didn't get them as often.

 

Sent you a PM.

[Kevin Slater]

Actually, this makes me wonder: since I'm almost definitely going to want an escort who provides longer sessions, rather than just an hour or so, what could I reasonably expect to pay for an overnighter? I'm not cheap, just curious. If an escort's regular hourly rate is, say, $250.00, would an overnight session of eight hours be 8 x $250.00 = $2000.00? Or would it be more likely for an escort to offer a discount for more than a certain number of hours?

 

I'm off to investigate!

 

Most escorts discount multiple hour bookings. I'm 250 an hour, three hours for 600, or 1200 for an overnight, for example.

 

Kevin Slater

[GuntherCory]

Most escorts discount multiple hour bookings. I'm 250 an hour, three hours for 600, or 1200 for an overnight, for example.

 

Kevin Slater

 

Hey, Kevin, thanks for the info. I'm a newbie here, with plenty of questions!

 

How many hours constitutes "overnight"? Eight? Nine?

[maxwellissmart]

Actually, this makes me wonder: since I'm almost definitely going to want an escort who provides longer sessions, rather than just an hour or so, what could I reasonably expect to pay for an overnighter? I'm not cheap, just curious. If an escort's regular hourly rate is, say, $250.00, would an overnight session of eight hours be 8 x $250.00 = $2000.00? Or would it be more likely for an escort to offer a discount for more than a certain number of hours?

 

I'm off to investigate!

 

One thing I always appreciate from a client who wants a multi-hour appointment is some sort of structure to the time.

—I thought we could have a massage for a while, and then take a shower together.

—Let's play for a bit, and then grab some food, and then play some more.

—You massage me, and then I'm going to massage you.

and so on.

 

An hour is typically easy to fill. Multi-hours (3+) are more difficult to pace, and some guidance is usually very helpful.

[Kevin Slater]

Hey, Kevin, thanks for the info. I'm a newbie here, with plenty of questions!

 

How many hours constitutes "overnight"? Eight? Nine?

 

Nothing is set in stone. It depends on you and the escort, and perhaps on the plans. Are we talking dinner, a show, sex and a sleepover? Out of town travel? Generally I'd think eight to ten hours including some sleep, but best to clarify with your guy beforehand.

 

And keep the questions coming.

 

Kevin Slater

[rguer]

I've determined that "may" and "might" are usually two of the worst words you can say to an escort.

 

I don't care that you "might" be coming to town, or that you "might" be looking, or that you "may" want to get together. Let me know when you know for sure.

 

Perhaps "may want to get together" is the client's way of avoiding the unpleasantness of saying "I was going to hire you, but after talking to you I've changed my mind."

 

I'm also in the thinking-about-it-but-haven't-yet-hired stage. Isn't the "may/might" condition common in people like me? The sequence that josephga mentioned is clearly unacceptable in any business, but I don't think it's reasonable to say that you don't even want to talk to someone if they're not sure they want to hire you. And that's what you just said -- I don't care that you ... "may" want to get together. Let me know when you know for sure.

 

Another escort mentioned recently that breaking in a new client is a lot of work. Especially, it appears, new clients who tend to over-analyze. But somebody's gotta do it if you want to keep a supply of customers.

 

Everything in this business seems to be in some kind of code. There's just no way for someone new to know what it means. What "erotic" or "versatile" means might be different for every escort, and it can't be spelled out (or at least few are willing to put it in writing in an ad). There's no way to know what the price will be without asking. God only knows what "hygiene" means.

[GuntherCory]

One thing I always appreciate from a client who wants a multi-hour appointment is some sort of structure to the time.

—I thought we could have a massage for a while, and then take a shower together.

—Let's play for a bit, and then grab some food, and then play some more.

—You massage me, and then I'm going to massage you.

and so on.

 

An hour is typically easy to fill. Multi-hours (3+) are more difficult to pace, and some guidance is usually very helpful.

 

Wanting my experience to run as smoothly as possible, I'd definitely have a game plan of activities in mind. Ideally, for an overnighter, I'd like a late-night dinner, drinks, and conversation, followed by a mutual massage and then more intimate play. After some sleep, I'd probably be eager for more sexual activity, followed by breakfast, in the morning. I should think clients would show up with at least some idea of what they want, and how they'd like to spend their time. All of the planning and "work" should not be the escort's responsibility.

[GuntherCory]

Nothing is set in stone. It depends on you and the escort, and perhaps on the plans. Are we talking dinner, a show, sex and a sleepover? Out of town travel? Generally I'd think eight to ten hours including some sleep, but best to clarify with your guy beforehand.

 

And keep the questions coming.

 

Kevin Slater

 

Eight to ten hours sounds reasonable, considering dinner, sex, and sleep would realistically be on the agenda.

 

I'm trying NOT to bombard everyone with questions, and make myself look like a total NOOB, LOL, but thanks for letting me ask away!

[rguer]

Wanting my experience to run as smoothly as possible, I'd definitely have a game plan of activities in mind. Ideally, for an overnighter, I'd like a late-night dinner, drinks, and conversation, followed by a mutual massage and then more intimate play. After some sleep, I'd probably be eager for more sexual activity, followed by breakfast, in the morning. I should think clients would show up with at least some idea of what they want, and how they'd like to spend their time. All of the planning and "work" should not be the escort's responsibility.

 

That's pretty much what I would want to do, provided that the chemistry is there. An overnight for me would be 7pm-10am, 15 hours including dinner, breakfast, and 8 hours of sleep. I'm not a wham-bam kind of guy.

 

This is a great thread. Lots of interesting topics are being brought up.

[maxwellissmart]

Wanting my experience to run as smoothly as possible, I'd definitely have a game plan of activities in mind. Ideally, for an overnighter, I'd like a late-night dinner, drinks, and conversation, followed by a mutual massage and then more intimate play. After some sleep, I'd probably be eager for more sexual activity, followed by breakfast, in the morning. I should think clients would show up with at least some idea of what they want, and how they'd like to spend their time. All of the planning and "work" should not be the escort's responsibility.

 

DO NOT drink too much, and DO NOT drink (or worse—take something because you're nervous). I haven't been drinking for a while and I made this mistake with the vino the other night and could barely perform my husbandly duties, as it were.

[Guest JackF]

One thing I always appreciate from a client who wants a multi-hour appointment is some sort of structure to the time.

—I thought we could have a massage for a while, and then take a shower together.

—Let's play for a bit, and then grab some food, and then play some more.

—You massage me, and then I'm going to massage you.

and so on.

 

An hour is typically easy to fill. Multi-hours (3+) are more difficult to pace, and some guidance is usually very helpful.

 

 

 

No no no no, maxwell, you have it ALL wrong! My favorite extended arrangements (2-3, 4 hours) are the ones that just want to get together in a hotel room for that length of time. Sure, we can chat for a while, massage, play, shower, etc. but that will only be "fun" for so long.....I guess the rest of the time we can just stare at each other???? That could be fun....hahah.

[Guest JackF]

I've certainly had my share of clients that either A. show up drunk, even in the morning (alcoholics) or B. were so nervous they drank themselves into oblivion and back (next morning they are scratching their head trying to figure out what happened (or didn't).

 

Overnights can be fun, but what isn't fun is the folks that are convinced that you shouldn't sleep at all. "Nah, we'll just play, cuddle, sex, shower, massage, etc. until the sun rises and it's time for you to go". Ummmm, thanks but no thanks, I do enjoy a few hours of good sleep at night, which I think is certainly reasonable.

[maxwellissmart]

I've certainly had my share of clients that either A. show up drunk, even in the morning (alcoholics) or B. were so nervous they drank themselves into oblivion and back (next morning they are scratching their head trying to figure out what happened (or didn't).

 

Overnights can be fun, but what isn't fun is the folks that are convinced that you shouldn't sleep at all. "Nah, we'll just play, cuddle, sex, shower, massage, etc. until the sun rises and it's time for you to go". Ummmm, thanks but no thanks, I do enjoy a few hours of good sleep at night, which I think is certainly reasonable.

 

There was this one guy who was sweet and would hire me for overnights, and all he wanted to do was fuck me. For eight hours. Nonstop.

 

I finally just couldn't see him anymore. Hell, even porn shoots break for lunch.

[GuntherCory]

DO NOT drink too much, and DO NOT drink (or worse—take something because you're nervous). I haven't been drinking for a while and I made this mistake with the vino the other night and could barely perform my husbandly duties, as it were.

 

Well, fortunately (?) for me, i don't drink alcohol at all. When I say 'drinks", I mean the escort would be having anything he liked, and I, boring as I am, would be sipping my Diet 7 Up! The only other substance I may consider taking would be Viagra!

[GuntherCory]

There was this one guy who was sweet and would hire me for overnights, and all he wanted to do was fuck me. For eight hours. Nonstop.

 

I finally just couldn't see him anymore. Hell, even porn shoots break for lunch.

 

 

How dreadful it must be, inundated with NON-STOP SEX!!!!!!!!

 

Listen to my heart bleeding for ya, LOL!

[down_to_business]

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Overnights can be fun, but what isn't fun is the folks that are convinced that you shouldn't sleep at all. "Nah, we'll just play, cuddle, sex, shower, massage, etc. until the sun rises and it's time for you to go". Ummmm, thanks but no thanks, I do enjoy a few hours of good sleep at night, which I think is certainly reasonable.

 

Sleeping is reasonable when the rates are reasonable and/or the hours are reasonable. Maybe others don't but I sure have an issue of being billed $200 an hour to watch you sleep, and I have had overnights and longer where the escort felt entitled to 10-12 hours of sleep a night. I also have an issue if you consider an overnight 10 hours or less and you feel entitled to sleep 8+ hours of our time together.

 

As I now hire for either an hour only or a weekend or longer (no more 8-10 hour 'overnight' appointments for me) it rarely is an issue for me and a good nights sleep is always part of our encounter.

[maxwellissmart]

How dreadful it must be, inundated with NON-STOP SEX!!!!!!!!

 

Listen to my heart bleeding for ya, LOL!

 

Something was bleeding, and it was not a heart.

 

Sleeping is reasonable when the rates are reasonable and/or the hours are reasonable. Maybe others don't but I sure have an issue of being billed $200 an hour to watch you sleep, and I have had overnights and longer where the escort felt entitled to 10-12 hours of sleep a night. I also have an issue if you consider an overnight 10 hours or less and you feel entitled to sleep 8+ hours of our time together.

 

As I now hire for either an hour only or a weekend or longer (no more 8-10 hour 'overnight' appointments for me) it rarely is an issue for me and a good nights sleep is always part of our encounter.

 

In addition to sexy-time, clients who hire me for an overnight are also given private and unfettered access to my knowledge of modern cinema—especially the oeuvres of Stephen Spielberg, Julia Roberts, and George Lucas. We can also play Yahtzee.

[down_to_business]

...In addition to sexy-time, clients who hire me for an overnight are also given private and unfettered access to my knowledge of modern cinema—especially the oeuvres of Stephen Spielberg, Julia Roberts, and George Lucas. We can also play Yahtzee.

 

Damn- where were you when I was hiring for my upcomming 7 day cruise. I love playing Yahtzee. Of course I have no idea who you really are, but I have (in my head) assigned you to which escort I think you are. Since theres a good 99% chance or so that I am wrong, I would be really suprised when 'you' showed up and had absolutely no cinema knowledge

[maxwellissmart]

Damn- where were you when I was hiring for my upcomming 7 day cruise. I love playing Yahtzee. Of course I have no idea who you really are, but I have (in my head) assigned you to which escort I think you are. Since theres a good 99% chance or so that I am wrong, I would be really suprised when 'you' showed up and had absolutely no cinema knowledge

 

Like mistaking Jane Fonda for Lily Tomlin. Oh, the horror!

 

Yahtzee rocks. I just put a free version of it on my iPhone.

[GuntherCory]

Something was bleeding, and it was not a heart.

 

Ouch, ouch, ouch!

 

Okay, I understand better now.

[maxwellissmart]

Apparently the guy who just contacted me falls into that category. He wanted an overnight and was all like: oh, I know it's going to be magic blah blah blah, do you want pictures of me, and I suggested that we meet for an hour first to make sure I'm what he's looking for in an overnight... oh no no no no no, that's completely unnecessary since I know we'll get along like long-lost lovers, by the way—how much?

 

(insert sound of crickets after I sent him the rate)

 

So much for that.

 

UPDATE: So the guy started texting me again, and his mannerisms and diction started changing up, almost like I was talking to someone different. I looked up his phone number on M4RN client reviews and surprise—he's got 4 negatives. I wish M4RN would allow escorts to put a "notes" field, so I could see what he tried to do with the others he contacted. It would be a lot more useful than that stupid "Wanted Now" bullshit.

[Guest JackF]

UPDATE: So the guy started texting me again, and his mannerisms and diction started changing up, almost like I was talking to someone different. I looked up his phone number on M4RN client reviews and surprise—he's got 4 negatives. I wish M4RN would allow escorts to put a "notes" field, so I could see what he tried to do with the others he contacted. It would be a lot more useful than that stupid "Wanted Now" bullshit.

 

 

I hate the "wanted now" postings. I had one guy post on there who claimed he could only afford $90/hour and wanted THREE hours. Funny, cause he sees people all the time....so either they are willing to get the significantly reduced rate OR he's successful with those low rates, who knows.

 

My favorite texter from last night....after a series of texts, he finally said the following: "Remember, you are a prostitute no matter how hard you try to spin it." Needless to say, I stopped responding after that rude comment. Completely uncalled for and unnecessary. I've NEVER been told that before! Ouch.

[+ FreshFluff]

SInce this thread has already wandered away from the OP's topic...

 

Men are gullible. All you have to do is coo "oooh baby, you have the biggest cock I ever saw" and they will be eatting out of your hand...

 

You've tried this with an average guy, and he believed you? After spending time in the shower and the bathroom with other guys, don't they know where they stand in the penis length distribution?

 

Max, the cum in the hair one wasn't up to your usual standards.

[tom1980]

Was cum in the hair a reference to the Ricky Gervais stand up act? Description of the segment below (copied from http://www.pilkipedia.co.uk/wiki/index.php?title=Politics):

 

At one point, Gervais reads from his “favourite leaflet” which suggests 10 tips for homosexual men to avoid contracting HIV. The leaflet is entitled, “You know, you don’t always have to have anal sex.” Through breaks of laughter, Gervais reads the following 5 out of 10 of the suggested alternatives.

1. Why not just wank each other off?

2. Why not cum on his back?

3. Why not cum in his hair?

4. Why not cum into a piece of fruit, e.g. Watermelon.

10. Why not both cum out of a window?