Does Interracial Sex Turn You On

[maxwellissmart]

Well Max, a true professional is one that understands what makes his business grow. I am sure your clients appreciate the boners (Oops, bonus) you provide with your massages. I honestly think you know upfront what type of service the clients is seeking, and if you dont, it is efficient and cost effective to ASK.... Cuts down on wasted time and misunderstandings during the appt.

 

Actually JJ—I don't always know and sometimes have to run on autopilot. Many clients are vague and trying to pull information out of them makes them uncomfortable. I try to get clients to describe as much about themselves as possible from likes to stats, with varying results. Some of course, are the exact opposite and give me a laundry list of their expectations for the session—still others want me to describe in exact detail what to expect down to the minute. I've tried to put limits on the amount of information I'll send (for legality if nothing else), and always stress that every client is different—and that I like to put as much spontaneity into every encounter as possible. It's pretty much worked so far, and if someone gets obnoxiously pushy beforehand or tells me they want something I'm not willing to provide, then I direct them elsewhere.

[Michael Wayne]

for the record jj the guy told me ," I hate fuc_ _ _g nigg_ _ _!" I do think that qualifies as racism. I did not want to post that but since you questioned my premise I felt it was necessary. There are many code words for racism these days. Now, if an escort is playing from a position of power he has the right to see whoever he wants whenever he wants and charge what he wants----however I would not publish my racism(if i was one which i am not) online but that is my choice. I have almost given up mentoring young escorts cause it is like talking to a brick wall and they are bound and determined to make their own mistakes. A really skinny kid called me a year ago telling me he had no clients. i told him to EAT and work out. A year later he still has an ad and still looks like a sleleton- awfully skinny. Why come to me for advice and then not take it and STILL BE BROKE? I am not talking about 6 foot 140 lbs skinny guys, I am talking 6 foot tall and 115 lbs skinnny. clients just don't like that nor do they like skinhead punk escorts who are neo-nazis racists

[josephga]

for the record jj the guy told me ," I hate fuc_ _ _g nigg_ _ _!"

 

I had a masseur here in Atlanta tell me the same thing once.

[justaguy]

Like Epigonos, whose taste in men I tend to share, I hire on body type as far as that first contact is concerned. Occasionally I vary if the add appeals for some reason, but for the most part the closer a man gets to the gymnast build the more I'm going to be interested.

[jjkrkwood]

for the record jj the guy told me ," I hate fuc_ _ _g nigg_ _ _!" I do think that qualifies as racism. I did not want to post that but since you questioned my premise I felt it was necessary. There are many code words for racism these days. Now, if an escort is playing from a position of power he has the right to see whoever he wants whenever he wants and charge what he wants----however I would not publish my racism(if i was one which i am not) online but that is my choice. I have almost given up mentoring young escorts cause it is like talking to a brick wall and they are bound and determined to make their own mistakes. A really skinny kid called me a year ago telling me he had no clients. i told him to EAT and work out. A year later he still has an ad and still looks like a sleleton- awfully skinny. Why come to me for advice and then not take it and STILL BE BROKE? I am not talking about 6 foot 140 lbs skinny guys, I am talking 6 foot tall and 115 lbs skinnny. clients just don't like that nor do they like skinhead punk escorts who are neo-nazis racists

 

Lets not pretend racism doesnt exist in our society. And to be perfectly clear, I dont condone it, BUT you cant force a guy to see clients or perform with people he is uncomfortable with. We still live in a Free society where people can choose. You will never erase his Hatred. I trhink it would be far worse for him to accept a black client, and basically "steal" his money by faking a session. Some escorts are able to FAKE it, others are not. Again I give the guy credit for Honesty and not selling out, and please DONT misinterpret this as my condoning his racism. I am speaking about "business".

As for advice, Mikey you did your part in advising the kid when he came to you. He is not obligated to take or follow your advice. Time for you to step away from the fire.

[maxwellissmart]

Most of the clients I see will forgive a bad erotic massage but would never return to someone that fails at the therapeutic components.

 

That's funny—many of my clients have said the exact same thing, and expressed surprise when I give them a real massage. They've been groomed to expect disappointment.

[justaguy]

In my experience, a good massage looks easy but is actually difficult. Techniques are easy enough to learn, but you either have the intuition that makes those techniques useful or you don't. I have a difficult body to work with because my muscles, particularly the traps, don't want to relax. Most guys, even reputable ones, respond by applying more pressure until they fell the muscles give. Wrong thing to do. As soon as they move to another body part, the muscles lock up even tighter than before. This happens even after I've explained how my body works. I think it's a function of guys trying to get through as many clients a day as possible so they don't want to wear themselves out on me. What I've learned is to find the guys that do it right and stick with them.

[maxwellissmart]

In my experience, a good massage looks easy but is actually difficult. Techniques are easy enough to learn, but you either have the intuition that makes those techniques useful or you don't. I have a difficult body to work with because my muscles, particularly the traps, don't want to relax. Most guys, even reputable ones, respond by applying more pressure until they fell the muscles give. Wrong thing to do. As soon as they move to another body part, the muscles lock up even tighter than before. This happens even after I've explained how my body works. I think it's a function of guys trying to get through as many clients a day as possible so they don't want to wear themselves out on me. What I've learned is to find the guys that do it right and stick with them.

 

One of the main reasons I encourage mutual touching in a massage appointment is because I like to be massaged too. The other reason is because I have learned a great deal of technique from clients who also know what they are doing. I had one of the best massages of my life the other day from a client who wanted to reciprocate (and I certainly wasn't going to stop him), and he showed me a number of techniques that he likes to have done, which I have since begun incorporating into my own process. People tend to rub the way they like to be rubbed, and if you listen and observe you'll end up with a far happier client. I always get a laugh from the clients who tell me that they hooked up with some guy who thought that quickly rubbing his hand across their skin was a "massage," when what that's actually called is "friction."

[jjkrkwood]

One of the main reasons I encourage mutual touching in a massage appointment is because I like to be massaged too. The other reason is because I have learned a great deal of technique from clients who also know what they are doing. I had one of the best massages of my life the other day from a client who wanted to reciprocate (and I certainly wasn't going to stop him), and he showed me a number of techniques that he likes to have done, which I have since begun incorporating into my own process. People tend to rub the way they like to be rubbed, and if you listen and observe you'll end up with a far happier client. I always get a laugh from the clients who tell me that they hooked up with some guy who thought that quickly rubbing his hand across their skin was a "massage," when what that's actually called is "friction."

 

Hmmmm, I must be the weirdo here, since i cant stand people Rubbing all over my body. Its not sensual TO ME, and I find it rather annoying. I have never had a formal massage, and actually always equated massage with sex for some reason. If I want sex, I just have sex, and fuck the massage part.... I like to do the rubbing "with my mouth"....

[josephga]

When I get a massage I only get strictly therapeutic only deep tissue. And only from someone that's certified and licensed. I'm talking really deep tissue to the point that it hurts a little. I use to go to this one guy really deep id be clinching the table sometimes tears running out my eyes lol always bruised for a few days later. Sometimes ill get clients and ask them what type of massage would you like? Some will tell me to just do what I want and to give the kind of massage I like to give. I tell them I'm not sure that's a good idea lol

[jjkrkwood]

When I get a massage I only get strictly therapeutic only deep tissue. And only from someone that's certified and licensed. I'm talking really deep tissue to the point that it hurts a little. I use to go to this one guy really deep id be clinching the table sometimes tears running out my eyes lol always bruised for a few days later. Sometimes ill get clients and ask them what type of massage would you like? Some will tell me to just do what I want and to give the kind of massage I like to give. I tell them I'm not sure that's a good idea lol

 

That DOESNT sound relaxing at all to me...

[josephga]

I have some bodybuilders for clients actually that's the only kind of massage they want. It's not always about relaxing. Massage is also used for chronic pain management. You take someone with muscle spasms and lots of knots and pressure points. It takes a strong massage to break that up which can sometimes leave bruising

[maxwellissmart]

Hmmmm, I must be the weirdo here, since i cant stand people Rubbing all over my body. Its not sensual TO ME, and I find it rather annoying. I have never had a formal massage, and actually always equated massage with sex for some reason. If I want sex, I just have sex, and fuck the massage part.... I like to do the rubbing "with my mouth"....

 

Wow. For me, being touched in the right place at the right time and in the right way can totally make or break sex with someone. To me, that's the true hallmark of establishing intimacy—which to be fair, isn't a required component for sex per se. But it sure as hell makes sex a lot more exciting (with anyone), and if it's sex within a relationship—it's definitely a requirement.

[jjkrkwood]

Wow. For me, being touched in the right place at the right time and in the right way can totally make or break sex with someone. To me, that's the true hallmark of establishing intimacy—which to be fair, isn't a required component for sex per se. But it sure as hell makes sex a lot more exciting (with anyone), and if it's sex within a relationship—it's definitely a requirement.

 

Well touching in a sexy, caressing sort of way Does work for me. i was strictly speaking about the specific mechaniaztions of massge as I undertsand it.

 

I love sensual light caresses under the balls, and light, lilting flicks on the nipples. A finger slowing running down the ass-crack, WHOA ! And a tongue running down the neck is the Pinnacle of sensuality. But kneeding and bending, not so much for me.

[maxwellissmart]

Well touching in a sexy, caressing sort of way Does work for me. i was strictly speaking about the specific mechaniaztions of massge as I undertsand it.

 

I love sensual light caresses under the balls, and light, lilting flicks on the nipples. A finger slowing running down the ass-crack, WHOA ! And a tongue running down the neck is the Pinnacle of sensuality. But kneeding and bending, not so much for me.

 

Precisely. My version of erotic massage doesn't consist of rolfing plus a handjob. The purpose of incorporating massage techniques is to get someone relaxed and focused on feeling sensations on their skin. And I don't use just my hands when I give a massage—I use my head, face, mouth, hair, chest, weight, and so on.

[jjkrkwood]

Precisely. My version of erotic massage doesn't consist of rolfing plus a handjob. The purpose of incorporating massage techniques is to get someone relaxed and focused on feeling sensations on their skin. And I don't use just my hands when I give a massage—I use my head, face, mouth, hair, chest, weight, and so on.

 

So basically, you're having sexual foreplay right from the start.... My kind of session.

[maxwellissmart]

So basically, you're having sexual foreplay right from the start.... My kind of session.

 

The clients seem to like it.

[adriano46]

While I would not get upset hiring a guy for a massage who dives in with the erotic stuff, I normally hire a masseur fir a legitimate massage and I have a very short list of guys in NYC and elsewhere who are orofessionals in this - who I can see when in pain or discomfort from long fighte, stress, etc... And who DO get the knots out and donit professionally and accurately (yeah Harrison, Carson, and Mishi in NYC!!!).

 

I always check how far (in ads) a masseur goes and I respect limits. I first met one guy for instance, strictly for therapeutic massage and he was willing to go further, but I told him I wanted him for the professional part - and the rest was icing on the cake for another session.

 

When a masseur who is professional goes the extra mile with me, it is because we have built up an understanding over various sessions and he knows my limits and I know and respect his.

 

Back to the interracial oart that began the thread, I never see a man's race whennhiring (or at most it is minimal). I like many "types" and a man w a gymnist's body, or a more mature guy with a nicely proportioned body are fine. As long as there are no piercings, and no tats (or very minimalist tats), short hair, and a nice butt, I am in heaven. Also I prefer guys who are "normal" in their persona, ie no thugs, not street guys, not queeny or girlish. I tend like guys comfortable with their sexuality but not acting over the top with me.

[JoeyBryant]

the race of my client is not an issue- in any way........... here is an interesting situation on race though: I advise a kid in Miami occasionly on the finer points of escorting and I noticed in his ad he says he does not see black clients cause they are not his type. I pointed out to him the stupidity of that satement. He sees overweight, balding , older and lesser endowed clients and so I asked him are they your type? He said ,"NO, they are not." I then pointed out that the only one you say you won't see is a black guy so how is that not racism and discrimination????? We, as escorts, cannot just and only see our type. We would go broke and have to tend bar to make ends meet. The kid DID NOT take my advice and now will not speak to me. Sadly to say even in 2012 RACISM still rares its ugly head in the good ol USA. How GODAMNED SAD! http://www.rentboy.com/mikey9nola1

 

Very good point there Mikey! That totally dispels all that, "well, whatever makes Mr. Happy happy is what matters." Sure...and Mr. Happy would gladly pick up the 55 y/o White balding beer gut at the bar over the athletic Black client who's about to pay $200 or $300 for an hour. Because they do exist..

 

I had a masseur here in Atlanta tell me the same thing once.

 

...That's one reason I don't work nor live and never will again live back in the south. Where I live, people don't use that kind of language...atleast not to each other and not out loud. I go to Florida, I'll hear it within 1 week. Uneducated, ignorant, belligerent...shame that such a pretty state houses such nasty people.

 

but, not everyone is like that and we just have to sort of move past it.

 

The stereotypical black top on white guy turns a lot of guys on. I must admit it was always a fantasy of mine until I had a black guy and was sorely disappointed to find out he was bottom hahahahahaha

 

I think it's hot too..but you have to be a bit more broad/open minded. I meet some guys who's main goal in meeting a Black guy is to simply play up on that fantasy and nothing else.

 

At the same time, what's even hotter is being versatile about it. Sure a hot White bottom guy can be a turn on, but at the same time; I've had situations where they wanted to top also and I wasn't the least bit disappointed. I'm not saying you have to force yourself to like something that doesn't click, but at the same time don't hold yourself back (and of course you're a bottom so maybe you'd be turned off regardless of race)

 

As for me, I've been doing strictly interracial sex now for many years in my personal life. I precisely remember the 1st guy I ever hooked up with was Black, but the 2nd one was Puerto Rican, and subsequent ones were White LOL. I then switched around according to what was available to me. But in the past couple weeks I've hooked up with 2 of my Black friends because they were just hot like that, and I'm actually dating one of them LOL.

[josephga]

this lady that once lived next to me said it allot. sometimes i hear black guys saying it to each other but rarely black females she said it a few times aday. she even called me nigg.. once lol

[TruthBTold]

Body type is the deciding factor for me. I am most definitely a body fascist. I hire gymnast bodybuilder types. As far as ethnicity is concerned I am totally eclectic. If the guy has the kind of body I covet I could care less if he is pink with purple polka dots. I have hired black guys, Asian guys, Hispanic guys and Anglo guys. I do have a tendency to hire guys with naturally dark or tanned skin.

 

I'm with you on this (as it appears is justaguy). I want to please any one of any color if the factor is there. I am more prone to hire bottoms with nice butts but that may be just me.