Slim Pickings At Agencies

[Kevin Slater]

Next question- Ross at Maximum- you can tell he is a handsome guy. But at least from his current pictures- he doesn't look 'extra special'. I don't mean anything bad by that. I am truly asking for information. Are the pictures not as good as they could be- or is it his personality- and the way he makes his clients feel- physically and emotionally- that sets him apart?

 

For one thing, the pics don't show his rather attractive face, and he has a very good energy. I've only worked with him once, and have to agree, was indifferent going into it based on the pics. Once he showed, I got it. He's definitely hot.

 

Kevin Slater

[Kevin Slater]

Kevin...you must be joking....ONE THOUSAND FIVE HUNDRED DOLLARS for an OVERNIGHT and they won't travel that far (what...9-10 miles....maybee a 30-50 dollar cab fare)

 

Clearly not, when you can't find anyone to take you up on the offer. I wouldn't either, at least not for a new client. I tried to helpfully suggest you go to him, but you seem more intent on being incredulous.

 

I doubt things are booming, but this is the city of divas.

 

You say diva, I say running a business.

 

Kevin Slater

[+ bigjoey]

Dear Gar1eth,

Ross has many reviews that speak for his abilities. First, he is "hot" and will generate "tent action" in your pants. He is a man and very masculine and not a twink boy. His personality will put anyone at ease;he just shines. His sexual abilities are amazing and can give you whatever you want; he is versatile, kisses with tongue, can suck chrome off a trailer hitch, cuddles at night. His hygine is perfect. He is intelligent and good out of bed, too.

 

See his reviews.

[Gar1eth]

Dear Gar1eth,

Ross has many reviews that speak for his abilities. First, he is "hot" and will generate "tent action" in your pants. He is a man and very masculine and not a twink boy. His personality will put anyone at ease;he just shines. His sexual abilities are amazing and can give you whatever you want; he is versatile, kisses with tongue, can suck chrome off a trailer hitch, cuddles at night. His hygine is perfect. He is intelligent and good out of bed, too.

 

See his reviews.

 

BJ- I meant no disrespect to Ross. I guess one reason I asked is that a few weeks ago someone said Ross looked a bit like one of the Carradine brothers. Now I think the Carradines were/are averagely attractive guys, much handsomer than I am, and I probably wouldn't throw any of them out of bed if they ever show up-except David- too freaky for me and look what happened to him-- but none of them were what I would call stunning. So I was wondering what combination of attributes gave Ross all his great reviews.

 

Gman

[Gar1eth]

Well....I don't know what I am doing wrong...I have $1500.00 on the table for an "overnight" when I'm NYC this weekend...NO TAKERS...the hotel I am staying at near LaGuardia is "too far"...things are BOOMING in NYC

 

MM- I don't really have a good sense of NYC geography. This summer I stayed for a night at

 

Country Inn & Suites By Carlson New York City at Queens- wasn't really that far from Times Square by taxi- and I found a quite popular escort named Louis who came to visit me for a few hours. Is Laguardia a lot further out than this hotel? It seems like it was only a 10 to 15 minute drive from Laguardia to the hotel ( or it would have been if the taxi driver had known his way). NYC seems to be one of those cities where you as a stranger are supposed to tell the cabbie how to get to a place- instead of the cabbie being able to find it- or have the resources to discover it if he's not sure of the neighborhood. )

 

Gman

[adriano46]

Couple of points to add (or subtract?) from this.

 

1) As a New Yorker, I dread -- absolutely dread - flying into or out of Laguardia Airport, and only do it when I have no other choice. It has not easy transport to and from, you end up hiring a car or taxy and it comes to anywhere from $38 to $50 (remember, you have a heavy toll under/over the East River). If a client is a first-timer to an escort - I would understand completely his reluctance to travel that distance for what could be a no show, a fake address, cold feet that do not open the door, a nut case... more risks than good business sense. Sure, $1500 is great for an overnight in NYC itself (Manhatten) but for someone you have never met, and going a distance that will put you back at least $100 round trip... I feel for Michigan Man but I am not surprised.

 

2) On agencies, in Europe where I used agencies (often because of language barriers), it was awful. In Moscow -- creepy. Most of the agencies are run by the Russian Mafia in cahoots with the KGB (FSB) and so if you are a "person of interest" (eg one with a public profile) be sure they are actually setting you up for a future blackmail -- so be careful.

 

Prague - nasty characters running agencies -- really awful. One would not leave the "rented" apartment I was paying for from him -- I discovered later it was the apartment of an escort I specifically had said I did NOT want to meet. My choices (it was for 5 guys for a sort of orgy a la Okie) were not met. I did not know until I actually arrived at the locale (for which I was paying an extra $300 for what was a filthy, dingy, smelly, animal-pet occupied 2 room flat with a filthy bathroom. "Agent" sat there making sly comments in Czech that I understood (he had no idea I could understand a bit of Czech), and finally I had to ask him to leave - but at that point realized he had cheated me on the costs of the group orgy and the guys I asked for.

 

Only place I enjoyed the agencies were in the houses of boys in Amsterdam and various cities in Germany (a dying site too). You could walk into these, the agent was a saavy host who cared for the clients, and who made sure you saw guys who YOU liked.

 

3) Lastly, the agencies are the places to go to if you are in a hurry and do not have the leisure time to wait for a guy to answer a text message, e-mail, or call.

[RexAll]

The possibly interesting thing about many of Maximum's former escorts is that they don't seem to advertise on any of the common sites after they leave Maximum. Of course I might just be missing them since most of them don't show their faces. But at least before the reboot of the site, the pictures were pretty revealing. So you would think that they might have been able to be recognized.

 

Rex

[maxwellissmart]

I work with an agency too over here in the UK and I get some work off them but not much. It's primarily a female escort agency but they do have gay guys. I probably only get about 4-5 appointments a year off them but it's 4-5 appointments I wouldn't have. They've tried to represent more gay guys to try and built that side up but most clients like to ring gay escorts direct for some reason.

 

I would make a good madam—I'd never beat the girls (unless they deserved it) and I'd give them an hour off at Christmas and their birthday.

[seeker630]

The possibly interesting thing about many of Maximum's former escorts is that they don't seem to advertise on any of the common sites after they leave Maximum. Of course I might just be missing them since most of them don't show their faces. But at least before the reboot of the site, the pictures were pretty revealing. So you would think that they might have been able to be recognized.

 

Rex

 

There must be reasons why some guys prefer to work for an agency. Maybe they feel supported, maybe they feel that the agency buffers them in a way, or maybe they prefer to let an agency handle the logistics.

[Kevin Slater]

I would make a good madam—I'd never beat the girls (unless they deserved it) and I'd give them an hour off at Christmas and their birthday.

 

Two hours off on their 14th birthday.

 

Kevin Slater

[JT Brooklyn]

There must be reasons why some guys prefer to work for an agency. Maybe they feel supported, maybe they feel that the agency buffers them in a way, or maybe they prefer to let an agency handle the logistics.[/

 

The Agencys at one time were a very good point to start "Working It" for many guys who were approached by them in Clubs etc! Some never even thought about it til they were approached by the Talent Scouts! Some guys have the Head (and Body) for it other's realize it is not for them having Sex with someone who does not turn them on!

 

A Major Case in point the uber Hunk "Damon Danillo"..he tried it realized not his thing and does very well with a Webcam site! Of course Webcams are for those Full Exhibitionists who are not bothered by showing their GoodLooking Faces!

 

There's a few Porno Stars who should have NEVER decided to go the Agency or RENTBOY Route as they are definitely not into it!

[+ WilliamM]

I have never been a fan of "agents" of any kind, and really dislike dealing with that "personality." From my experience, there are VERY FEW agents who are worth their weight in gold. I find most to be blood-sucking leaches who live off the talents of others, striking forceful poses with fake power, while robbing their clients blind. A famous celebrity warned me over 30 years ago to never trust my money or my career with anyone.

A quick comment and then a questions. A decade ago when agencies were doing well, it made some sense for a guy to start out at an agency to good grounding in all aspects of escorting before going out on his own.

 

Now to my question...I travel a lot overseas, but perhaps not as much as you. It's been almost two decades since I used a travel agent. I do everything myself online. Is that a mistake? Am I missing out on deals that only a travel agent has access to himself/herself? Maybe I enjoy the independence too much. Would very much appreciate your knowledge on the subject.

 

William

[RockHard]

...it made some sense for a guy to start out at an agency

 

Unfortunately, some agents are necessary (and, perhaps, not evil). It's very difficult to work in show business with no agent. In advertising, it's a mix: some artists have them, some don't. Artists notoriously loathe the paper work of business so they feel the 25% commission is worth it. Some photographers believe an agent will bring them new clients. I tend to believe the photographer's talent sells itself. There is no discounting a well-connected agent. There are a few who can work miracles on the bottom line. If you are a make-up artist, a hairdresser, or a clothing stylist, you do not need an agent to become successful and well connected. Many have agents, nonetheless.

 

It's been almost two decades since I used a travel agent. I do everything myself online. Is that a mistake? Am I missing out on deals that only a travel agent has access to himself/herself?

 

A travel agent is a different kind of agent, and they don't fall into my leech character assassination.

 

Large corporations, especially in show business, work with travel agents or in-house employees assigned to travel. My favorite Hollywood movie studio employs this fabulous gay guy who gives great phone. He knows his travel shit, too. I've never met him but we've talked to each other for years. He always makes me laugh. I'd like to meet him but I worry that his appearance may not live up to his voice. I prefer the fantasy.

 

For my business, we use a well-known woman who deals only with corporate clients. She's been in business for 30+ years. To be honest, I don't pay much attention to the "deals." I'm told they are there, but I don't comb through the numbers to check. 99% of travel bills are deductable. Most of my business flights are paid for and arranged by the "client." If the job is big and complicated, we put our agents in touch with each other.

 

Participants on travel forums insist the market for non-corporate travel agents is dead. The internet killed that business, and it seems the best deals are now on the web. If I'm planning a personal vacation, I tend to do the work myself because I usually have a list of things I want to accomplish. Sometimes, it's just easier not dealing with a middleman.

 

European hotels have cut back on reception personnel. Therefore, most hotels will offer the lowest rate on the internet to discourage everyone from calling. There was a time, pre-Euro, when the best rate was given via a phone call. Those days are gone. Now, you can "pre-pay," which usually gets you the highest discount, but there's no refund if you cancel. On the other hand, if you want your favorite room (which is the only way I travel), it's best to call and make that request.

 

When traveling with an escort, I make the arrangements myself. There are some exceptions, but I tend not to share my private life with business associates.

[+ WilliamM]

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European hotels have cut back on reception personnel. Therefore, most hotels will offer the lowest rate on the internet to discourage everyone from calling. There was a time, pre-Euro, when the best rate was given via a phone call. Those days are gone. Now, you can "pre-pay," which usually gets you the highest discount, but there's no refund if you cancel. On the other hand, if you want your favorite room (which is the only way I travel), it's best to call and make that request.

 

When traveling with an escort, I make the arrangements myself. There are some exceptions, but I tend not to share my private life with business associates.

 

I remember calling my favorite hotel in Elizabeth's Bay, Sydney in the early 1990s to get a very good rate, so you comments all rang true with me. I appreciate your taking so much time to respond. All of my travel outside the U.S. is personal, not business. If I have made any mistakes, it's likely they have have been made up for in learning how to work the frequent flier system to my advantage. As I get older, I enjoy a change of planes more (rather than a direct flight), but prefer it be Lufthansa with the change in Frankfurt, Munich or Dusseldorp.

[RockHard]

Agents and LaGuardia

 

New York Magazine has a clever article this week called, "A Workplace Confidential," which features anonymous contributions from the inside of several businesses. One insider, a "big-time Hollywood agent," reveals "the depths to which his fellow agents will sink."

http://nymag.com/news/features/insiders/hollywood-agent-2012/

 

IMO, the most telling line in the article is, "Now the abject lying is crazy."

 

Agents in show business are a specialty animal, primarily because there is so much money at stake. Who can blame "the talent" for not wanting to handle his/her financial negotiations.

 

Rentboy agents aren't exactly protecting their "talent" with legal employment contracts. Frankly, they don't offer much protection at all, legal or otherwise.

 

As a New Yorker, I dread -- absolutely dread - flying into or out of Laguardia Airport

 

LaGuardia Airport is my favorite, because it's so easy. At the right time of day, it's 25 minutes from my Manhattan apartment, curb to curb. There's no toll if you cross the Manhattan Bridge or the 59th Street Bridge. A large black sedan with leather interior and tinted windows costs me $60 with tip. A taxi at 4:30 AM will cost $40 with tip. At busier times, a taxi will cost much more. A Zipcar, with my son or an assistant driving, will cost $16. No other airport in the NYC area is as convenient or as quick to get to, at least for me.

 

If I had no choice but to see a guy in one of those awful hotels near the airport, I would offer a pre-paid car service to-and-from. I wouldn't want my escort to have to think one minute about transportation. When you're coughing up $1500 for intimacy, what's another $120 to treat your man to some comfort and style?

 

Still, if you're not a proven good customer, I could see why a guy might be reluctant to bite on an overnight near an airport, no matter the budget. If things don't go well, being stuck out on the streets near LaGuardia at 2 AM, looking for a way back into the city, would be no fun. The guy would need to arm himself with a back-up plan, just in case.

[adriano46]

Rockhard -- I agree that from Manhatten by a rented limo it is fine (I use those and they are great) but from Long Island to Laguardia it is awful -- unlike JFK where there is at least an attempt to help one get to and from the airport by train. Car services from LI or Westchester charge through the nose for a trip to Laguardia -- and to be honest, I am not a big fan of the waiting area or the arrival areas either, but that is neither here nor there -- my problem is convenience.

 

Yes, for one who is "in the know" you could get a decent room nearby, and hire a guy (who knows you) with the promise or lure of a car to and from the hotel -- but these days I prefer seeing a guy for an hour or two and without a lot of added on costs.

[RockHard]

Sex in the limo.

 

from Manhatten by a rented limo

 

I'm not a fan of limousines. The service I use will send a black Escalade for 1-2 people with bags. You can request a limo but I'm too tall to find them comfortable. Plus, who needs all that car, unless you're traveling with an escort and you want some privacy while you exchange blowjobs.

 

unlike JFK where there is at least an attempt to help one get to and from the airport by train

 

NYC is not in Europe. It would never occur to me send anyone to any of NYC's airports by train. If money is a concern, the bus service from Grand Central is really easy and cheap. It's easy on luggage handling (no steps), it's cost-effective, and, with it's own street lanes, it's reliable.

 

IMO, a trip to Newark is the least fun from Manhattan, and the one-way cost is inching towards $100 because the tolls over the Hudson are so high. The Newark Airport Express bus is only $15 from Grand Central. My son says it's the sanest way to get to Newark airport from Manhattan, and I think he's correct.

 

these days I prefer seeing a guy for an hour or two and without a lot of added on costs.

 

If I had to be stuck at an airport hotel on business, the prospect of fun with a hot guy could tempt me. I hate a boring hotel. I can watch TV at home. If I'm on the road, I usually want to fuck. I love a massage, too.

 

Overnights with a stranger? Never happen. I'm not sleeping with an escort unless I really, really like him, and I love the way he smells.

[Guest Connoisseur]

Groundlink.com

 

For NYC, including getting to/from airports, I suggest you check out Groundlink. I have used it extensively, found the service to be outstanding and trips to/from all the NYC airports have been quite reasonable. For example, nowhere near approaching $100. You can also download a free app to your iPhone and see cars available wherever you are. Can also book in advance.

[Kevin Slater]

The Newark Airport Express bus is only $15 from Grand Central. My son says it's the sanest way to get to Newark airport from Manhattan, and I think he's correct.

 

If you catch it at Grand Central, you then have to ride it to the Port Authority Bus Terminal and wait for the passengers to load there. If you're on the west side, better just to catch it at Port Authority, its last stop before EWR.

 

But lately I've been taking New Jersey Transit to the AirTrain. It's even less expensive and more dependable (a dedicated train tunnel into the city rather than going through the Lincoln [Holland?] Tunnel congested with cars).

 

Kevin Slater

[adriano46]

I find getting from Penn Staton to Newark by far the easiest, fastest, and most reliable of all the airport connections in Manhatten -- train, transfer and boom you are there, and I often use it to pick-up and accompany back out to the airport guests who fortuinately book through Newark International rather than JFK. It helps that it runs by a printed schedule and the tickets are ot that expensive.

 

The Sky Train via Jamaica is not the greatest as you really do have to lug the luggage quite a ways unless you are connecting to the LIRR (which is not THAT user friendly if you have luggage, but will do). Never tried the connection from the Sky Train to the subway, but friends have and swear by it (if they only have one carry-on).

 

RockHard -- I have never had to stay at an airport hotel in NYC -- and hopefully never would. I prefer a nice cozy room (nearby the buses to the airports on the East Side at Grand Central, or I call my usual 212-666-6666 for the car)... and then I can buy a nice bottle of wine, and call a nice comfortable companion for a few hours -- I prefer it over TV as much as you do, just prefer it being in Manhatten where I can always find a decent restaurant, walk around safely outside, and relax a bit before or after a long flight.

 

Remember -- this thread started with a guy stuck out at Laguardia and wondering why ESCORTS did not want to make the trip for an hour with him.

[sydneyboy]

Oscar at Maximum is my idea of very cute. Has anyone engaged the lad?

[RockHard]

Remember -- this thread started with a guy stuck out at Laguardia and wondering why ESCORTS did not want to make the trip for an hour with him.

 

I don't have memory issues, yet.

 

This thread was started by RexAll who noticed slim pickings at agencies and wanted to discuss his observation. The OP is not visiting a LaGuardia hotel, looking for a one-hour booking.

 

MichiganMan says he's staying near LaGuardia, and he's got $1500 for an "overnight." If you lose your facts along the way, the information tends to get muddled.

 

Personally, I don't care how anyone else gets to the airport. There are choices for everyone and that's a good thing.

 

I'm quite confident, if MichiganMan shifts away from an agency, he will find a taker for his offer. In this economy, I'm sure there are plenty of men who would happily find their way to LaGuardia to earn $1500 (minus transportation) for 4 hours of sex and 4 hours of cuddling.

[adriano46]

Yeah memory issue -- sorry. My bad.