When "No" means "No... now quit fucking asking me."

[maxwellissmart]

A rare thing—I just had to get nasty with someone who wouldn't take "no" for an answer.

 

"Can you send a face pic?"

"No, but I'm happy to meet you in person and let you decide for yourself."

 

"Can you send a face pic?"

"No, as I explained, I have to stay discreet because I have a full-time job. I totally understand if you don't want to meet as a result."

 

"Can you cam with me?"

"Again, if you're not comfortable meeting, I understand. I do have a number of positive reviews and none of those people saw me beforehand either. If I didn't deliver what I promise, I would have bad reviews."

 

Finally...

"Can I record our session for my personal use?"

"No, and I'm unable to meet with you. I'm sure there are other escorts who can meet your needs. Good luck with your search."

 

I mean, come on. There are a bazillion escorts with face pics. There are plenty who do porn. Go fucking find one.

[gallahadesquire]

"No thank you, I'd really rather not."

 

That was Miss Manner's reply. I don't think this was nasty at all.

[maxwellissmart]

"No thank you, I'd really rather not."

 

That was Miss Manner's reply. I don't think this was nasty at all.

 

I guess it was more nasty in my head. I hate telling people no—especially when it means I'm going to lose out on a potential client. But when someone jumps from "send me a face shot" to "let me make an amateur porno of you," it kinds throws me for a loop. I just wanted to say: "why would you even ask such a dumb question?"

[jjkrkwood]

I guess it was more nasty in my head. I hate telling people no—especially when it means I'm going to lose out on a potential client. But when someone jumps from "send me a face shot" to "let me make an amateur porno of you," it kinds throws me for a loop. I just wanted to say: "why would you even ask such a dumb question?"

 

You know what they say Max, if you dont take chances in life, you may lose out and never get ahead (or HEAD). The client took a 50/50 chance. I am sure there are escorts out there that might have said YES.... How was he to know YOU were not one of them ?

[maxwellissmart]

You know what they say Max, if you dont take chances in life, you may lose out and never get ahead (or HEAD). The client took a 50/50 chance. I am sure there are escorts out there that might have said YES.... How was he to know YOU were not one of them ?

 

Well I would think it stands to reason that if someone won't send out a face shot, they probably aren't going to let you record them doing the nasty.

[josephga]

What pisses me off if when I say no to something and someones response is why not? imo no doesn't require an explanation.

[Guest countryboywny]

What pisses me off if when I say no to something and someones response is why not? imo no doesn't require an explanation.

 

Oh, but an explanation would be so much fun, like, "Why not?" "Because you're an asshole" LOL

[josephga]

lol i had a guy last week ask at then end of the massage if id suck his dick? i said no. he said why not? i said no doesn't req a explanation. I think it sounds much classier than me saying listen bitch i don't have to defend my boundaries to you lol

[JoeyBryant]

By the 2nd question, I would have just stopped responding.

 

...I've realized that not every person who contacts us is wrapped too tight. Lots of loose screws out there.

[maxwellissmart]

By the 2nd question, I would have just stopped responding.

 

...I've realized that not every person who contacts us is wrapped too tight. Lots of loose screws out there.

 

His response when I said: "are you joking? I'm not sure why you keep asking this" was "well you told me to ask if I had any more questions."

 

Yes, but not the same one.

[instudiocity]

A rare thing—I just had to get nasty with someone who wouldn't take "no" for an answer.

WOW! That's not nasty, that's standing your ground and good for you! If you don't set your limits, who will? Congratulations on managing your business and keeping your standards. I'd have told him to fuck himself, with his camera(s)!

 

FYI, not every contact is supposed to result in an appointment - monetary remuneration - some percentage of total contacts should result in good appointments and profitable business, while some will be wild-goose chases. It's better to accept that this is a wild-goose chase and move on to another contact looking the 'good appointment' than it is to stress over 'missed' business.

 

Sometimes in my business I have to say, "No, I can't let you have that. Please call my competitor - I'm sure he'll be able to supply your needs satisfactorily." Being all things to all people wastes time, efforts, emotions and even keeps us from profitable business. BTW, I clean up more of my competitor's messes than he cleans up mine. I think the ratio is 3:1 or so... so I'm making money.

[josephga]

I have this one guy that emails me every week wanting a massage since march. never gets an appointment. Because he refuses to finalize the appointment by phone. He says he is uncomfortable giving out his number. I told him that i was uncomfortable having someone in my home that wont provide a working contact number and too move on. He has tried changing email addresses a number times. even emailed me someone else phone number not thinking id check it out. I told him for safety and security that most providers have the policy of finalizing appointments by phone and the number must be unblocked. I don't get it. Why not just simple move on?

[maxwellissmart]

I have this one guy that emails me every week wanting a massage since march. never gets an appointment. Because he refuses to finalize the appointment by phone. He says he is uncomfortable giving out his number. I told him that i was uncomfortable having someone in my home that wont provide a working contact number and too move on. He has tried changing email addresses a number times. even emailed me someone else phone number not thinking id check it out. I told him for safety and security that most providers have the policy of finalizing appointments by phone and the number must be unblocked. I don't get it. Why not just simple move on?

 

Beats me. It must be the same guy who sends me texts from San Diego that say: "what is the length and size of your dick?"

 

Why, that information is privy to paying customers only, sir.

 

I have regulars (regular freaks, that is) who text and email me at 1am that "they'd come right now if I give the go-ahead" and then never respond when I ask for contact info in order to give them directions. It's people like this who need to have dead batteries only lonely stretches of road late at night with no AAA card... and then the weasels... and the mutants come.

 

Or they could just drop dead—that would work too.

[leigh.bess.toad]

Mawell -- I'm with instudiocity. Good for you for standing your ground.

 

As I told an escort I was talking to today, I don't know how in the world you put up with some of the crap from really freaky potential (and who knows, maybe actual) clients. There are certainly more than a few fruitcakes out there.

[Guest JackF]

Well after reading this thread, it sounds like I'm not the only one who received some God-awful texts/calls/emails today from folks harassing and asking the most ridiculous stuff. Something must have been aligned with the moons or the like! haha. Good for you, maxwell, in standing your ground. I had to do that today myself, it can be hard at times, especially when you could be potentially missing a client. It is what it is and it's often times not worth the risk on your part, only to have the guy cancel or never commit to an appointment anyway.

[maxwellissmart]

Well after reading this thread, it sounds like I'm not the only one who received some God-awful texts/calls/emails today from folks harassing and asking the most ridiculous stuff. Something must have been aligned with the moons or the like! haha. Good for you, maxwell, in standing your ground. I had to do that today myself, it can be hard at times, especially when you could be potentially missing a client. It is what it is and it's often times not worth the risk on your part, only to have the guy cancel or never commit to an appointment anyway.

 

Well I sent him a follow-up apologizing if my tone came across as harsh, and gave him some suggestions for getting his itch "scratched." Naturally, he didn't bother to write back.

 

Ah well—now I'm having to deal with the "over-enthusiastic" client, who has been on the verge of scheduling something for two months now and has finally picked out a date... a month from now. But during those 30 days, it looks like I'm going to be subjected to a daily barrage of emails about how hot our eventual encounter is going to be, how amazing I am, do I have any more pics, can I call and talk, and so on, and so on and shoo-bee doo bee doo bee.

 

And we're just on day three.

 

#facepalm

[JoeyBryant]

Beats me. It must be the same guy who sends me texts from San Diego that say: "what is the length and size of your dick?"

 

Why, that information is privy to paying customers only, sir.

 

I have regulars (regular freaks, that is) who text and email me at 1am that "they'd come right now if I give the go-ahead" and then never respond when I ask for contact info in order to give them directions. It's people like this who need to have dead batteries only lonely stretches of road late at night with no AAA card... and then the weasels... and the mutants come.

 

Or they could just drop dead—that would work too.

 

The hills have eyes 3 or 4? Breakdown part 2? Texas Chainsaw? They all come to mind LOL.

 

That said, the question about precise measurements of dicks are such a dead giveaway. It's one thing to ask how big someone's dick is (I mean, it's in the photo), but asking, "How hung?" Thick? Cut or uncut?

[jjkrkwood]

Well I sent him a follow-up apologizing if my tone came across as harsh, and gave him some suggestions for getting his itch "scratched." Naturally, he didn't bother to write back.

 

Ah well—now I'm having to deal with the "over-enthusiastic" client, who has been on the verge of scheduling something for two months now and has finally picked out a date... a month from now. But during those 30 days, it looks like I'm going to be subjected to a daily barrage of emails about how hot our eventual encounter is going to be, how amazing I am, do I have any more pics, can I call and talk, and so on, and so on and shoo-bee doo bee doo bee.

 

And we're just on day three.

 

#facepalm

 

Well, look at the bright side Max, You arent being harrassed by an ego-maniac Boss in your 2 x 3 foot Cubicle..... EVERY job has a downside...

[leigh.bess.toad]

Well, look at the bright side Max, You arent being harrassed by an ego-maniac Boss in your 2 x 3 foot Cubicle..... EVERY job has a downside...

 

Or the appointment could be 60 days from now.

 

Max, perhaps it may be good for the guy for you to have an honest discussion with the guy that sets boundaries. I was such a client from hell at first. My guys didn't have that talk with me, though now I wish they had. But seeing discussions here on the forum about clients like yours (and me at the time) consuming time from you "off the clock" made me change my ways. If this guy is new to hiring, it would stand him in good stead for any futre escorts he may hire to have you explain gently to him that it is unfair to you and your other clients for him to be consuming so much uncompensated time. Encourage him to be excited, express some excitement yourself and that you are happy he chose you, and certainly some exchange of communications about his excitement is fine. Just not too mich. You know how much is too much for you. You, he, and future escorts he may hire will thank you in the end. Trust me. I've been there.

[jjkrkwood]

Or the appointment could be 60 days from now.

 

Max, perhaps it may be good for the guy for you to have an honest discussion with the guy that sets boundaries. I was such a client from hell at first. My guys didn't have that talk with me, though now I wish they had. But seeing discussions here on the forum about clients like yours (and me at the time) consuming time from you "off the clock" made me change my ways. If this guy is new to hiring, it would stand him in good stead for any futre escorts he may hire to have you explain gently to him that it is unfair to you and your other clients for him to be consuming so much uncompensated time. Encourage him to be excited, express some excitement yourself and that you are happy he chose you, and certainly some exchange of communications about his excitement is fine. Just not too mich. You know how much is too much for you. You, he, and future escorts he may hire will thank you in the end. Trust me. I've been there.

 

Lee, Very good, enlightened advice. However some people just have "flawed" personalities and behave in ways which go against our grain. Often this is "irreversible" behavior which has been cultivated over a lifetime. However, your advise cANT hurt, and if it falls on deaf ears, so be it !

[leigh.bess.toad]

Lee, Very good, enlightened advice. However some people just have "flawed" personalities and behave in ways which go against our grain. Often this is "irreversible" behavior which has been cultivated over a lifetime. However, your advise cANT hurt, and if it falls on deaf ears, so be it !

 

Jj. I certainly agree it may fall on deaf ears. And it may even backfire. But from what max is described, it sounds like a severe case of "newbie-itis". I was there a little over a year ago. And I bet my case was worse than what max is describing. Lengthy emails, sometimes 5 or 10 printed pages in length. I want to hide in a corner looking back at those early days. But I learned, and pretty quickly, to not do that. Because I know if I did, I wouldn't have the relationships I have with my guys now. In fact I know a lot would have dropped me as a client. And sooner or later that will be the situation max's client may face if he doesn't learn to rein in some of his justifiable enthusiasm.

[jjkrkwood]

Jj. I certainly agree it may fall on deaf ears. And it may even backfire. But from what max is described, it sounds like a severe case of "newbie-itis". I was there a little over a year ago. And I bet my case was worse than what max is describing. Lengthy emails, sometimes 5 or 10 printed pages in length. I want to hide in a corner looking back at those early days. But I learned, and pretty quickly, to not do that. Because I know if I did, I wouldn't have the relationships I have with my guys now. In fact I know a lot would have dropped me as a client. And sooner or later that will be the situation max's client may face if he doesn't learn to rein in some of his justifiable enthusiasm.

 

Sex is an odd bird. It often makes people behave irrationally and impulsivley. Damn those Boners !

[maxwellissmart]

That said, the question about precise measurements of dicks are such a dead giveaway. It's one thing to ask how big someone's dick is (I mean, it's in the photo), but asking, "How hung?" Thick? Cut or uncut?

 

No, that's ALL he says. Just a text: "what is the length and size of your dick?" Nothing else—no initial email through M4RN. It's obviously spam—but I wonder how and why he determined I would be the lucky girl to get it. Repeatedly.

[maxwellissmart]

Well, look at the bright side Max, You arent being harrassed by an ego-maniac Boss in your 2 x 3 foot Cubicle..... EVERY job has a downside...

 

Oh I know, I know. It all goes back to the "hate to say no" part and how frustrating it is when people turn into weirdos at the drop of a hat. The past two weeks were amazingly good—this week is shaping up to be horrible. I just need to slog through it and move on.

[maxwellissmart]

Oh I know, I know. It all goes back to the "hate to say no" part and how frustrating it is when people turn into weirdos at the drop of a hat. The past two weeks were amazingly good—this week is shaping up to be horrible. I just need to slog through it and move on.

 

Day 4: He's looking forward to "meating" me, "pushing my buttons" and "getting me revved up."