What does "overnight rate" mean ??

[Guest badboy11]

I saw an escort ad in Rentboy and it said "overnight rate...1200." I was going to fly him in for an overnight. He would fly leaving his city at 3 15pm and getting here at about 7. Then depart at 10 am and flying back. He was quite insistent that the fee be higher than the "overnight rate" mentioned in the ad. He wanted 1500. We just couldnt reach agreement. Was I wrong in expecting the "overnight rate" to be as quoted---1200?? even tho he would fly here?? Of course I was going to pay the air fare etc.

[seeker630]

I saw an escort ad in Rentboy and it said "overnight rate...1200." I was going to fly him in for an overnight. He would fly leaving his city at 3 15pm and getting here at about 7. Then depart at 10 am and flying back. He was quite insistent that the fee be higher than the "overnight rate" mentioned in the ad. He wanted 1500. We just couldnt reach agreement. Was I wrong in expecting the "overnight rate" to be as quoted---1200?? even tho he would fly here?? Of course I was going to pay the air fare etc.

 

Sounds like it would take about 24 hours of his time, starting when he leaves for the airport and ending when he's back at his residence?

 

Some of the posters here can hopefully relate their own experience, but to me, what you have described is more than a typical 'overnight'.

[Scorpio]

Just as there is no standard rate for an overnight, there is not a standard time period as to what constitutes an overnight. Some escorts define an overnight as 8 hrs, some as 10 hrs, some as 12 hrs and so on. Some would have accepted your conditions. The same goes for weekend rates. Some mean Friday evening to Sunday morning. Some mean Friday afternoon to Sunday afternoon. Some are more fluid with the time and define it as Friday to Monday.

 

Essentially what you were requesting was 24 hrs of his time. You weren't wrong for asking and he wasn't wrong for declining.

[crok]

Just as there is no standard rate for an overnight, there is not a standard time period as to what constitutes an overnight. Some escorts define an overnight as 8 hrs, some as 10 hrs, some as 12 hrs and so on. Some would have accepted your conditions. The same goes for weekend rates. Some mean Friday evening to Sunday morning. Some mean Friday afternoon to Sunday afternoon. Some are more fluid with the time and define it as Friday to Monday.

 

Essentially what you were requesting was 24 hrs of his time. You weren't wrong for asking and he wasn't wrong for declining.

 

Just ask and see what you can agree on. If you are willing to spend $1000+ you should be able to agree on something. Which day of the week often menas alot on the time. Fly him into San Diego for the weekend and you may get a better deal -on the rate- than asking him to go to Omaha. Lots of variables on this one. Ask questions, and stay with well reviewed guys.

[Epigonos]

For this very reason I have always found it easier for me to fly to the escort rather than fly him to me. The travel time is then mine NOT his and we don’t get embroiled in a discussion of whether or not he should be paid for travel time. I have always considered an overnight to begin right before dinner and to end right after breakfast. Even in my early days of hiring escorts I always preferred two evening get togethers including dinner rather than an overnight and the cost is about the same. I have slept alone all my life and I actually like it that way.

[gcursor]

well it was half of an overnight tacked onto the morning

 

Yeah...I had this happen to me a few times in my early hires. I would ask for a 24 hour and then they would come in and leave the next day in the morning. I was talking to one escort about how one guy says what he feels the difference is between an overnight and a 24-hour; the escort's response was that he thought that it sounds like if I had been taken and I was getting overnights for 24 hour prices.

 

Shortly after that, I stopped hiring for 24 hour periods altogether since nobody could agree and there have been discussions on the forum throughout time stating as much (each escort runs his own shop the way he so desires). Then this year, I started going to MULTIPLE-DAY hires which started a WHOLE NEW set of questions.

 

 

I saw an escort ad in Rentboy and it said "overnight rate...1200." I was going to fly him in for an overnight. He would fly leaving his city at 3 15pm and getting here at about 7. Then depart at 10 am and flying back. He was quite insistent that the fee be higher than the "overnight rate" mentioned in the ad. He wanted 1500. We just couldnt reach agreement. Was I wrong in expecting the "overnight rate" to be as quoted---1200?? even tho he would fly here?? Of course I was going to pay the air fare etc.

[crok]

For this very reason I have always found it easier for me to fly to the escort rather than fly him to me. The travel time is then mine NOT his and we don’t get embroiled in a discussion of whether or not he should be paid for travel time. I have always considered an overnight to begin right before dinner and to end right after breakfast. Even in my early days of hiring escorts I always preferred two evening get togethers including dinner rather than an overnight and the cost is about the same. I have slept alone all my life and I actually like it that way.

 

Dinner at 5:00 and breakfast at noon?

[down_to_business]

From my hiring experience a typical overnight is 7PM to 7AM or some close variation. While some escorts will honor a 24 hour appointment as an overnight, many will not. I have found most of the escorts I hire will do an overnight + a 24 hour for roughly 2X the overnight rate or an overnight + 2 X 24 hour for their weekend rate.

 

You can find some great escorts that will overnight in the $600 - $1000 range and overnight + 24 in the $1000 to $1200 range and weekend in the $1200 to $1500 range. You can also find a lot that want a whole lot more. Personally, I have never found that a higher price guarantees higher quality... but others will disagree with that.

 

If possible, try to do an hourly with an escort before engaging one for an overnight or longer. I know it isn't always possible. I have had some great longer-term first time appointments but I have also had some awful ones! While reading reviews can help, communicate with the escort as best you can and trust your own instincts from that interaction.

 

Good Luck

[gp0560]

Why worry about the terminology? Just ask him what his fee is for the time frame you want. If you want 7 PM to 10 AM, say so; don't just talk about overnights. You can also specify which meals you will include. So if you wanted to start at 8 PM, say, you could say that dinner was or was not included. Same with breakfast.

 

There's a guy I hire for three-hour afternoon sessions. The first time I included lunch, as a sort of meet-and-greet. Since then, we've met after lunch. No problems.

[JT Brooklyn]

Just as there is no standard rate for an overnight, there is not a standard time period as to what constitutes an overnight. Some escorts define an overnight as 8 hrs, some as 10 hrs, some as 12 hrs and so on. Some would have accepted your conditions. The same goes for weekend rates. Some mean Friday evening to Sunday morning. Some mean Friday afternoon to Sunday afternoon. Some are more fluid with the time and define it as Friday to Monday.

 

Essentially what you were requesting was 24 hrs of his time. You weren't wrong for asking and he wasn't wrong for declining.

 

Totally Agree as explained by Scorpio...

[+ glutes]

it is all negotiable

 

 

Essentially what you were requesting was 24 hrs of his time. You weren't wrong for asking and he wasn't wrong for declining.

 

Well said Bro. Scorpio...

[leigh.bess.toad]

The difference in what someone considers an overnight was made clear to me in setting up a fairly recent three way with two of my very best escorts. One considers an overnight 15 hours or so, another considers it 12. Trying to get the two guys together was seeming difficult, when I hit on the solution. Both of them consider 24 hours as 24 hours. And for not much more for each, I got 24 hours instead of the 12 or 15 hours I would have had. Other guys I know consider it anywhere between 12 and 15. Each guy is different.

 

Most of the guys I have hired are somewhere in the 800-1000 range for an overnight and everyone seems to be around 1200 for a full day. An overnight rate of 1200 and a full day of 1500 is certainly above the norm I'm used to, but not so drastically to seem excessively out of whack. But a difference of $300 for an overnight versus a full day certainly is within the norms I've seen.

 

As others have pointed out, I think you needed to find out what the escort in question considers an overnight. And given the very small difference between overnight and a daily rate, I don't really think it is out of line for the escort to request the full daily rate since you will be consuming a full day of his time. If he assumes an overnight to be 12 hours, you would be physically with him for 15, so you'd be getting the last 3 hours for a total of $300. If he said his overnight is normally 15, you'd actually be paying him $300 for 9 hours of travel (which considering travel time to and from his local airport seems reasonable).

 

Personally, although his rates are a bit higher than I'm accustomed to paying, all in all, I don't think his request was unreasonable at all.

[adriano46]

I used to prefer overnights, but that was when I lived and worked in Europe, and the rates for an overnight were much cheaper (or I would say, more reasonable) than here in the US, and more relaxed in terms of what "overnight" meant. I could hire a guy in the evening, we would meet around 5 or 6 PM (winter nights as it was already dark), have a drink, go out to dinner, take a walk, get back and get involved in the main entertainment, sleep, have more entertainment etc... and the morning exit was more as the escort liked -- one guy had a day job and so had to get up at 6:30 AM, wash, dress in his suit, and head out; another had different work hours and so slept in until around 9:00 AM ad then we had breakfast before he left. Others simply skipped breakfast - but the majority wanted it and easily stayed with no change in the original fee. One thing one never negotiated with a European guy was that it was understood there would always be morning sex in an ovenight, sometimes very ho, sweaty, frantic sex -- whereas in the US most guys I hired seemed to want to sleep or pretended to sleep and mornings were with an unrequited woody in hand while the escot slept!!!

 

In the States I ran into all kinds of headaches. I only three times flew a guy to me -- and regretted for one reason or the other, all 3 trysts. The expectations were so complicated my mind was spinning. One guy insisted on so much private time (and ended up going to bars to get drugs, got into a flight, and I had a date with a guy with a black eye that night!!!); another thought I was a millionaire and kept trying to arrange our time outside of the room on expensive shopping jaunts. I stopped that practice a few onths later.

 

I continued to do overnights with guys I knew, but slowly found that - if the escort was not one of my buddies from Europe who happened to be in the US - the rates for local guys were just way out of proportion to the time spent. Plus, I have to agree 100% with Epigonos... as I get older, I prefer being alone in bed so that I can sleep at least a few hours at night and not go through the next day in a fog. So -- overnights now are generally OUT and I hire most guys stirctly for the bedroom. (The energy needed to entertain a guy in conversation half or even nearly a third my age for a dinner in a nice restaurant is too much for me, so why add that 1-2 hours onto the fee??

 

All this said, there are a few escorts out there I know who can accomodate their fees to my own interests and needs, and to these few I usually turn when I want a satisfying evening of fun. Sadly, not one of them lives in the area where I do now....

[Irtwo]

Hmmm, a guy with a black eye from a fight sounds kind of hot! lol

[mmk123]

I am not a real overnight kind of guy. I guess I am not going to pay someone to sleep next to me. I can understand the appeal of it but I guess it is not for me.

 

Also, instead of paying 1200 to 1800 for an overnight I think I would rather hire 5 or 6 guys (either separately or together) for 1 to 2 hours each than one guy for 12 to 24 hours.

[adriano46]

Hmmm, a guy with a black eye from a fight sounds kind of hot! lol

 

In his unique way he really was HOT, but during this particular lengthy weekend date he turned into the date from hell, and about two or three years later even tried to extort money from me threatening to "out" me (and all his clients) in a tell-all book he was writing. A real class act there!

[Gar1eth]

While I haven't done this lately because it's often too much of a 'hurry up' only in order to wait situation, or it's a hurry, rushed 'affair', I used to do the fly- the guy- in for an overnight- send 'em home the next morning frequently. I eventually decided it was just too expensive for such a short meeting time. Plus often I would have to be at work early the next day, and would be dragging around half dead from exhaustion from being up late the night before.

 

However, when I did do it frequently, the price was usually either the overnight rate , or maybe only a few hundred more due to the escort's inconvenience.

 

Don't the ads always say the fee is for 'time spent Together'? Obviously the escorts can ask for whatever they think is fair. But I wasn't going to pay for a 24 hour session on a 14 hour visit where at the very least 3 or 4, and possibly more hours, was going to be spent sleeping- esp not on top of having to pay for an airline ticket (plus I always stayed in a hotel so there was that charge too).

 

Gman

[TruthBTold]

Why worry about the terminology? Just ask him what his fee is for the time frame you want. If you want 7 PM to 10 AM, say so; don't just talk about overnights. You can also specify which meals you will include. So if you wanted to start at 8 PM, say, you could say that dinner was or was not included. Same with breakfast.

 

Very sensible.