Do you think escorts know how much business they lose by not listing rates?

[jjkrkwood]

And thanks very much for that! Sometimes going off topic is more fun than the topic.

 

I agree, but that doesnt seem to be the general consensus around here. These guys get bent out of shape if you stray....

[hornytwells]

He could be traveling in a non-professional capacity or even maybe with a client. I know a couple of escorts and masseurs who will not answer text or e-mails or return calls when they are away. If they are with a client, it is out of respect to them, and when they travel for themselves, they have told me that sometimes they just want the down time without being bothered. I most certainly respect that. I don't think that we should expect these guys to be avail 24/7. All of us just need to 'chill' sometimes. IMHO

 

I am not expecting him to be available 24/7, nor do I expect an answer immediately it's not like I message him every hour, or even every day. However, I have tried a few times, while his ad is up on rent boy and left a few emails, always spaced over gaps of three days or so, and over a period of a month never got a response. I also tried this about a year ago, and left a couple of texts a week part on his cell-no response ever.....I think if you are traveling and unavailable to respond to ads, your advertisement should reflect that, no?

[hornytwells]

Fair enough, but if I know I'm going to be unreachable for a day or more I am sure to either hide my ad or change the header to explain this and thus avoid the ill will of seeming unresponsive to potential clients. Otherwise how can I be sure they'll know to contact me once I'm back?

 

 

Exactly Kevin-that is surely the correct way to conduct business> I am self-employed (alas not as an escort!!) and I would find it very bad business not to be on top of my emails within 24 hours response-clinets would find it disrespectful and I am sure I would lose some of them> I am not actually annoyed at his lack of response, as it is only sex, but more mystified as to why he would run the expense of an ad that he doesn't seem to respond to-this happened last year to and I give up after three fruitless attempts at contact.

[jjkrkwood]

I am not expecting him to be available 24/7, nor do I expect an answer immediately it's not like I message him every hour, or even every day. However, I have tried a few times, while his ad is up on rent boy and left a few emails, always spaced over gaps of three days or so, and over a period of a month never got a response. I also tried this about a year ago, and left a couple of texts a week part on his cell-no response ever.....I think if you are traveling and unavailable to respond to ads, your advertisement should reflect that, no?

 

Horny, I would think that with a rate of $200, Ben is overwhelmed with calls, and is picking and choosing based on some criteria he may have set for himself. Be patient, your day will cum....

[+ Charlie]

I think it is obvious from the variety of answers here that both clients and escorts have a range of different feelings about posting rates versus "ask me." It has a lot to do with how each side prefers to do business. I generally want to know, before I try to contact an escort, whether he is within my budget, so I won't be disappointed if the answer is too high. Like adriano, much of my hiring was done in the pre-Internet days, when print ads tended to be very small, and they had only one price listed, or none at all; I almost always skipped over those with none, because contacting an escort was time-consuming when one had to ask all the questions that are now answered in the elaborate ad itself. (Most print ads had no photos or only one small one, so one even had to ask the escort to describe himself.) Now, however, when price may be the only question that isn't already answered in the ad, I might be more inclined to contact him and ask only that. An escort who advertises a variety of interests/specialties/fetishes might reasonably consider some deserving of more reimbursement than others, but he isn't going to include a menu like the one in Lookin's classic post. A few escorts have told me that a potential client who contacts them and doesn't discuss money probably isn't serious, so the "ask me" helps weed out the wankers, because they don't ask.

 

I doubt that those escorts who don't state a price lose a lot of business; they just get a different pool of clients.

[jjkrkwood]

I think it is obvious from the variety of answers here that both clients and escorts have a range of different feelings about posting rates versus "ask me." It has a lot to do with how each side prefers to do business. I generally want to know, before I try to contact an escort, whether he is within my budget, so I won't be disappointed if the answer is too high. Like adriano, much of my hiring was done in the pre-Internet days, when print ads tended to be very small, and they had only one price listed, or none at all; I almost always skipped over those with none, because contacting an escort was time-consuming when one had to ask all the questions that are now answered in the elaborate ad itself. (Most print ads had no photos or only one small one, so one even had to ask the escort to describe himself.) Now, however, when price may be the only question that isn't already answered in the ad, I might be more inclined to contact him and ask only that. An escort who advertises a variety of interests/specialties/fetishes might reasonably consider some deserving of more reimbursement than others, but he isn't going to include a menu like the one in Lookin's classic post. A few escorts have told me that a potential client who contacts them and doesn't discuss money probably isn't serious, so the "ask me" helps weed out the wankers, because they don't ask.

 

I doubt that those escorts who don't state a price lose a lot of business; they just get a different pool of clients.

 

Well I am sure each escort has his own psychology for doing or not doing certain things in his ad, which may not always be evident to the client.

I am still trying to figure out why escorts who advertise Huge cocks choose not to show it in their ads, and want us clients to "trust" that they are telling the truth. Also, i had another post about escorts limiting the ways clients could contact them, with explanations on that subject from sereral escorts. The way you market yourself is a VERY individual thing, for the escort, AS WELL AS for the client who is trying to "market" himself to the escort....You just do the best you can, and hope for the Best.... For every lost client, there is another waiting in the wings.

[instudiocity]

Horny, I would think that with a rate of $200, Ben is overwhelmed with calls, and is picking and choosing based on some criteria he may have set for himself. Be patient, your day will cum....

Maybe hornytwells is writing/saying too much in this flirtatious chase for the golden rod... mystery is a two way street.

[Mark450]

I won't hire if there isn't a rate listed in the ad. I have seen lots of guys ads that I would have hired if there had been a rate listed, so there are some in my area that have lost business from me.

[jjkrkwood]

Maybe hornytwells is writing/saying too much in this flirtatious chase for the golden rod... mystery is a two way street.

 

Well its not as if Horny is pursuing Ben for FREE sex. He's an escort afterall, and should expect Lustful solicitations from clients...

 

That brings up a whole new questions. Are there certain things that clients say in their solicitations that are definite TURN-OFFS to escorts. Is it the actual words, or the tone of the solicitation that signals RED FLAG, and would result in an escort NOT replying to a prospect ?

[hornytwells]

Maybe hornytwells is writing/saying too much in this flirtatious chase for the golden rod... mystery is a two way street.

 

Have said nothing at all except that I am interested in hiring him, and am happy with oral only........Told him I could provide more info if he wanted it. That's not exactly sending him my autobiography. Also, isn;t he looking for cash rather than "mystery". I don;t think putting an ad on rent boy is the surest way to attract a mysterious experience

[raulgmanzo]

Do you think escorts know how much business they lose by not listing rates?

 

I doubt any of us escorts (or anybody at all) has a very good idea of how much business is lost (or even possibly gained) by not listing their rates.

So many variables. The original poster (down_to_business) and maxwellissmart both make god points. Personally I list my rates. And as with other escorts here I still get asked what my rates are in most of my client dialogues.

 

This ranges from what I see as reasonable -even sensible- confirmation, to the client/cruiser who has not read my profile, or is looking for a discount right off the bat.

Also there seem to be a few would-be-clients who get turned on by being offered a discount but are not going to be making an appointment no matter what the fee.

 

Now if a client wants a discount the flipside of this thread might be how much of a discount, for what, when, AND where?

You might be surprised at how often that information is lacking and not forthcoming.

[bigvalboy]

I am not expecting him to be available 24/7, nor do I expect an answer immediately it's not like I message him every hour, or even every day. However, I have tried a few times, while his ad is up on rent boy and left a few emails, always spaced over gaps of three days or so, and over a period of a month never got a response. I also tried this about a year ago, and left a couple of texts a week part on his cell-no response ever.....I think if you are traveling and unavailable to respond to ads, your advertisement should reflect that, no?

 

I agree with you Hornyt...but my point is only that if escorts do not do it that way then I do not feel it is my place to tell them otherwise. I think that the only courteous thing to do is if as you said, if you are traveling or will be unavail then by all means let people know.

[+ glutes]

Horny, I would think that with a rate of $200, Ben is overwhelmed with calls, and is picking and choosing based on some criteria he may have set for himself. Be patient, your day will cum....

 

And you are soooo experienced with Ben, non?

 

 

http://www.companyofmen.org/showthread.php?75320-Benjamin-Nicholas-Charlotte-NC

 

http://www.companyofmen.org/showthread.php?54224-Anyone-heard-from-BN&highlight=heard

[jjkrkwood]

And you are soooo experienced with Ben, non?

 

 

http://www.companyofmen.org/showthread.php?75320-Benjamin-Nicholas-Charlotte-NC

 

http://www.companyofmen.org/showthread.php?54224-Anyone-heard-from-BN&highlight=heard

 

YOU have no experience with Anything or anyone, yet YOU always have some comment, right ???

 

FYI Gloop, your obsession with me is bordering on FARCE. Isnt there some traveling circus you can join ?

[gp0560]

And you are soooo experienced with Ben, non?

 

 

http://www.companyofmen.org/showthread.php?75320-Benjamin-Nicholas-Charlotte-NC

 

http://www.companyofmen.org/showthread.php?54224-Anyone-heard-from-BN&highlight=heard

 

Wasn't he talking about Ben Andrews? See #10.

[instudiocity]

Well its not as if Horny is pursuing Ben for FREE sex. He's an escort afterall, and should expect Lustful solicitations from clients...

 

That brings up a whole new questions. Are there certain things that clients say in their solicitations that are definite TURN-OFFS to escorts. Is it the actual words, or the tone of the solicitation that signals RED FLAG, and would result in an escort NOT replying to a prospect ?

 

While escorts may have sex for money, I'm not sure I'd want to hire an escort who was only in it for the money. I dunno, maybe I'm old fashioned, but I'd like some dialogue between my intended and me before the floor show.

 

Have said nothing at all except that I am interested in hiring him, and am happy with oral only........Told him I could provide more info if he wanted it. That's not exactly sending him my autobiography. Also, isn;t he looking for cash rather than "mystery". I don;t think putting an ad on rent boy is the surest way to attract a mysterious experience

 

I didn't mean to imply you were being overly loquacious or chintzy with your emails. But I was saying that even the first email contact with an escort needs a bit of mystery to draw his interests. I emailed a well-reviewed escort monthly for YEARS with no response. Recently he was reviewed on Daddy's again. I emailed him to congratulate him on his review. We wound up in a multi-email dialogue and we had a date. At the end of the date, I came clean telling him I'd been attempting to see him for years and the date was better than the fantasy. His response? "Yeah, I've had a crazy couple of years and I wasn't always good with anything but a same day date for a long time."