Clients as Friends

[down_to_business]

When I go to the lawyer, the way he handles my case does not affect my libido. The same with the doctor--no wait, I'm lying about that. My doctor is gay and hunky--sigh. The people at the Starbucks and the cleaners probably don't own the business, so they may not be able to no bill you, even if they wanted to. Sex is different--at least for me--it can play with the emotions. A friend--and let's say sex is not involved--just time--either going out to dinner or going to the movies--yes, it's very possible I might pay for either dinner or a movie--especially if I know I make more money than the the guy--but a friend--a true friend better not try to charge me for the time together. If we are friends, and I out of the goodness of my heart want to pay for dinner or a movie--that's one thing. However, while he might like me, charging me for time together indicates that he still sees me as a client and not a friend. If we were to say that it was ok for a friend to charge for non sex get togethers, then I'd be interested in knowing how many of his friends who only knew him from his private life are being charged to spend time with him. Rex

 

+1 That was pretty well said (except I disagree with the steep discount policy when it comes to friendship or basic companionship). True friends do not charge you to be friends, not at a sale, not at a discount, not a cent. I guess it is possible to be friends and pay for sex, but I can't really grasp even that concept, personally.

 

I find it tragic that so many clients are going into this looking for love or friendship. If that is what you are truly looking for, hiring an escort is NOT the way to go. And it seems so many people are misinterpreting client or customer for true friend. Don't be one of those people. All it will do is set you up for heartbreak down the road when your 'friend' decides to leave this business and simply changes his phone number and you never hear from him again. Try not to misinterpret being good at their job, being friendly, smiling, text messages and emails or phone calls, their enthusiasm for their job or keeping you as a client as wanting to be your friend. Their goal is to be your service provider and provide excellent customer serivce while keeping you coming back (and PAYING) for more, not to find someone to go to the movies with off the clock.

[leigh.bess.toad]

Oh, and assuming you are on good terms with your sister, if your brother-in-law is not giving you a steep discount--unless he works for someone else and is unable to, something is very wrong.

Rex

 

Unfortunately, in the medical field that isn't possible now. It used to be that "professional courtesy" was given to family members, even family members of other doctors. Now unless everyone is charged full freight for all services, you risk getting in big trouble with the insurance companies.

[jjkrkwood]

+1 That was pretty well said (except I disagree with the steep discount policy when it comes to friendship or basic companionship). True friends do not charge you to be friends, not at a sale, not at a discount, not a cent. I guess it is possible to be friends and pay for sex, but I can't really grasp even that concept, personally.

 

I find it tragic that so many clients are going into this looking for love or friendship. If that is what you are truly looking for, hiring an escort is NOT the way to go. And it seems so many people are misinterpreting client or customer for true friend. Don't be one of those people. All it will do is set you up for heartbreak down the road when your 'friend' decides to leave this business and simply changes his phone number and you never hear from him again. Try not to misinterpret being good at their job, being friendly, smiling, text messages and emails or phone calls, their enthusiasm for their job or keeping you as a client as wanting to be your friend. Their goal is to be your service provider and provide excellent customer serivce while keeping you coming back (and PAYING) for more, not to find someone to go to the movies with off the clock.

 

TRUE friends "typically" dont have sex with each other. Thats a fuck buddy, who may also be a friend, but this is apple and oranges. I think people here are trying to force the issue here merely by the definiton of friendship. However if a client/escort relationship evolves into a friendship, then its between the 2 people to work out the details of their "friendship" if SEX is gonna remain in the mix... If sex is taken out of it, then theres really no issue as to who pays for what when you go out socially. It would work exactly the same as any 2 friends going out, on or the other "treats" or its dutch treat. Really rather simple... For me, the question to this thread remains WHY the client REALLY wants a friendship with the escort. More and more by the responses it appears to be a selfish motive pointing to the hopes of Free sex. Thats not the basis for a friendship, at least in MY definition....

[down_to_business]

I can only speak from my own perspective. I do not want to be friends with many of the escorts I have seen. I have wanted to be friends with a few of the escorts I have seen. For the ones I would have wanted to pursue the friendship route with, I would have had to have met them from some other avenue then escort / client to begin with but my reasons or motivations would not be free sex because sex would be the last thing I would care about in an on-going relationship with them. Again- this is for my perspective only- I would want to be friends with them because I enjoyed conversing with them or maybe I saw some common interest or maybe it was some X factor.

 

I guess I have a hard time seeing your perspective on this because for me free sex is not even a consideration of why I would want to be someones friend. I guess free sex might be a motivation of why I might want to date someone.

[citylaw1]

This sounds more like a client/escort relationship that is mutually beneficial, rather than a friendship. There are clients that you genuinely click with, and those that you don't. I befriended a very well reviewed former Campus escort after 2 years of hiring him on and off. We traveled together once and went to dinner and the hotel probably 5 times. We really hit it off, however, he only provided his personal contact details (well most of them) after he retired. Since he retired, we have never had sex, remain acquaintances and have an actual friendship. The first time I met him after his retirement he actually shut his bedroom door when he changed to go out. That was a shocker considering he rarely wore anything other than a jockstrap when we were together previously. He told me that once he retired he would completely separate from his escorting past and move on to phase 2. I respected this. I feel like we have an actual friendship now, and that this wouldn't have been possible any other way. I suggest that you tell your client that you really enjoy your time with him, however, you don't like to mix business and personal. This would stand true under most client/provider arrangements. Unless you would consider this guy as boyfriend material in the real world, you would be misleading him otherwise.

[citylaw1]

Zach I think good and frank communication is the key here, I knew an escort once that I fell in love with..Sex was amazing. I wrongly assumed that it had gone beyond escort/client relationship, and was something very different than it actually was. One occasion after we had sex I took him to dinner, I paid the tab of course, but when he went to leave I wasn't going to pay for our time together, becasue I assumed it was a mutual feeling and understanding. He sat me down and had a very straight forward conversation with me. Bascially saying that he loved our time together and loved being with me as long as I undestood what was really going on. He was a paid escort and that he needed to be paid for our time together. I was embarrassed because I assumed too much, however his frankness helped and stopped what could have been a painful confrontation down the line.

 

This, in my opinion, was perfectly handled by the escort. Following an overnight, I mentioned to my escort that I would be going to the Four Seasons in NYC for brunch. I invited the escort to the brunch, however, I was clear that I would be stopping the clock when we left the hotel. Cheap of me, perhaps, but I was not gonna pay to watch him eat, considering we shared a bottle of $300 Burgandy the night before. He laughed when I told him this and joined me for brunch. However, during brunch I never attempted hand holding or anything other than friendly brunch etiquette.

[citylaw1]

If you guys are really looking for love, maybe you should put forth the effort into pursuing "regular" guys in Real life, and not pinning your hopes on your escorts falling in love with you. Fat chance that will ever happen.... They are escorts for a reason, just as you are the client for a reason.

 

I understand the fantasy of having an escort fall in love with you and live happily ever after, and getting free sex, but come on here. Is it Realistic ? Why waste your time and energy. The escort/client relationship is just that : A business deal....

 

Well said!

[jjkrkwood]

Well said!

 

Maybe, Citylaw BUT I took alot of flack for that reply from the guys that think its absolutely feasible and possible. I think the fear of rejection from guys you pay for is LESS, and therefore a more attractive option for guaranteed companionship. It just gets a bit out of hand for those guys really seeking a LTR....

[scottspearsxxx]

I have several clients and client couples that I have seen for years and yes they are friends and always hot sex!

[jjkrkwood]

I have several clients and client couples that I have seen for years and yes they are friends and always hot sex!

 

But the issue is "Do you still charge them for sex ", or do they now expect, and GET Freebies ???