When does the Clock start Ticking ???

[jjkrkwood]

I just read a review today in Daddys Reviews that prompted this question. the OP had a session with the escort, who arrived Late, and then asked to take a shower first, which lasted in excess of 10 minutes...

 

When would the "actual" sex time be calculated from ? (the time he walked in the front door, OR from the time he came out of the shower and they actually got to doing the deed?). From the review, I got the sense the escort started the session when he walked in the door, and therefore was charging the client for his "shower time". Do you think this is FAIR ???

[josephga]

imo he should have arrived freshly showered

[jgoo]

imo he should have arrived freshly showered

 

I agree. The clock starts when he is ready to play and if he is not prepared when he arrives, then a shower is on his own time and not mine. The only exception would be if the escorted invites the client to shower with him

[cany10011]

Usually an encounter lasts no more than 30 minutes max so it really doesn't matter to me. I do agree that both parties should be showered, prepped and cleaned prior to the meeting as well as all lights set on dimmers and drinks ready I find showering more of an issue in the summer as it is often humid and even walking outdoors induces a light sweat that may be off putting. In such cases, showering together may be a nice form of foreplay prior to the main activity

 

 

 

 

I just read a review today in Daddys Reviews that prompted this question. the OP had a session with the escort, who arrived Late, and then asked to take a shower first, which lasted in excess of 10 minutes...

 

When would the "actual" sex time be calculated from ? (the time he walked in the front door, OR from the time he came out of the shower and they actually got to doing the deed?). From the review, I got the sense the escort started the session when he walked in the door, and therefore was charging the client for his "shower time". Do you think this is FAIR ???

[Guest 2guys4men]

I agree with all of the above (clock should have started after he was ready). In our experience, we are ready to go when we arrive, unless it's a long drive and we must use the boys room for a hot second or just got in from a fight. Usually after all is said and done will the client, they will offer up a shower at the end, and depending on what took place we will take that offer. I wanted to respond because we had a situation this week with a repeat (2nd time around) client. We had the time set, sent the client a txt when we were on the way, get there and the client isn't there. We wait about 5 min, get a txt back saying "closing tab at the pub be right there." I should have ended it right then and there, reason why follows. He finally shows up 15 minutes later, but being nice, didn't start the clock till we all got settled. So, he wants to mix it up a little, no worries, but after the mixing it up, discover he is buzzed/drunk. I am not sure about other escorts, or clients, but to me, this is a huge turn off and a mood killer. Not only could the client not perform (this isn't the only time a client was drunk and failed to perform) it makes it very uncomfortable since we do have a few (stress few) limits, and they don't respect those limits or listen when we say nicely please don't. The session lasts more than an hour, and finally I said we have another appointment and got paid for our hour and went on our way. My conclusion, we will no longer work with this client because I consider this a business, however, I did very nicely say that next time we meet, lets do this earlier in the day like last time so you are more awake and can enjoy it. I doubt we will, and yes, shoot me, but regardless of his actions, I still treat everything with kindness and left on a good note. I may bitch about it later, but it is a small world and you never know.

[jjkrkwood]

My conclusion, we will no longer work with this client because I consider this a business, however, I did very nicely say that next time we meet, lets do this earlier in the day like last time so you are more awake and can enjoy it. I doubt we will, and yes, shoot me, but regardless of his actions, I still treat everything with kindness and left on a good note. I may bitch about it later, but it is a small world and you never know.

 

Yes, better to err on the side of caution, because the MOUTH is a powerful tool, and very wide reaching. Word of mouth can Kill....

[josephga]

I agree with all of the above (clock should have started after he was ready). In our experience, we are ready to go when we arrive, unless it's a long drive and we must use the boys room for a hot second or just got in from a fight. Usually after all is said and done will the client, they will offer up a shower at the end, and depending on what took place we will take that offer. I wanted to respond because we had a situation this week with a repeat (2nd time around) client. We had the time set, sent the client a txt when we were on the way, get there and the client isn't there. We wait about 5 min, get a txt back saying "closing tab at the pub be right there." I should have ended it right then and there, reason why follows. He finally shows up 15 minutes later, but being nice, didn't start the clock till we all got settled. So, he wants to mix it up a little, no worries, but after the mixing it up, discover he is buzzed/drunk. I am not sure about other escorts, or clients, but to me, this is a huge turn off and a mood killer. Not only could the client not perform (this isn't the only time a client was drunk and failed to perform) it makes it very uncomfortable since we do have a few (stress few) limits, and they don't respect those limits or listen when we say nicely please don't. The session lasts more than an hour, and finally I said we have another appointment and got paid for our hour and went on our way. My conclusion, we will no longer work with this client because I consider this a business, however, I did very nicely say that next time we meet, lets do this earlier in the day like last time so you are more awake and can enjoy it. I doubt we will, and yes, shoot me, but regardless of his actions, I still treat everything with kindness and left on a good note. I may bitch about it later, but it is a small world and you never know.

 

I would turned his ass around at the door I wont put up with drunks or druggies

[Guest 2guys4men]

Well, it was his room. Question, if you walk out on a client (done it once with one drunk, left nicely and said this isn't for us) just eat up the cost for travel and time? What about the concern of a bad review? Like jjkrkwood said, word of MOUTH is a powerful tool, we don't have ways to review clients too often as they do with us. Fortunately we have not been in these situations much, the only other time, we took control and it was what the client wanted, so no worries there.

[Juan Vancouver]

When would the "actual" sex time be calculated from ? (the time he walked in the front door, OR from the time he came out of the shower and they actually got to doing the deed?).

 

I'd be far from thinking what is fair for everyone but I know well the way in which I conduct my own business and I have to offer a differing point of view.

 

I don't sell "sex time", I am a professional companion and I charge for the time I spend with my clients. Sometimes the minute I meet them one is inside the other and we won't stop fucking till one of us leaves, sometimes we never actually have sex, but hang out, go watch a play, have dinner, go to a museum or share beautiful experiences together.

 

Most of the time, however, when I am with my clients we end up mixing these two ways of spending time together.

 

If the appointment starts at nine, then that is when the appointment starts.

 

That being said I always get to my appointments clean, fresh and ready to go. If for whatever reason I arrive late, I will make up for that time. If for whatever reason my client is late, I will make room for some adjustment.

 

There are specific sessions in which I will need specific time to get ready that cannot happen before I get there. If these kind of preparations are meant to fulfill specific fetishes, then that time of course is part of the session. Sometimes during a session one or both need to have some clean up time, and that, of course is also part of the session.

 

My job is to spend time with the people I meet and make sure that this time feels fun, comfortable, exciting and horny for them.

 

I hope this helps.

[JoeyBryant]

Well, it was his room. Question, if you walk out on a client (done it once with one drunk, left nicely and said this isn't for us) just eat up the cost for travel and time? What about the concern of a bad review?

 

If he's drunk, he's probably not going to remember you walking out on him LOL.

 

But to answer...no, get your travel cost. But a better suggestion would be to evaluate the client beforehand. Usually late night calls on weekends after midnight and 2 am, you have an idea of what to expect.

[+ tristanbaldwin]

IMO, if a session gets down to splitting hairs over 10 minutes, then you are a questionable performer to begin with. A good escort promises the MINIMUM but delivers the MAXIMUM. For instance...gurantee an hour as an minimum...but that way if you stay far longer, you're just doing yourself a service for repeat clients. Don't promise an hour and short someone, just because you think you're lining stuff up A B C D E. That's stuppppppid.

 

My rule of thumb is only a few people a day, with lots of stagger in between for sexual recovery. I cum with every client, unless I have a movie the next day or something and need a solid shot. For the guys punching the clock 'to the minute'- that's pathetic.

[josephga]

I Start the clock once the massage clients on the table. I allow up to 15 minutes late and still provide the full time. I dont deduct shower time unless they abuse it. I use to get this one guy that wanted to shower b4 and after and he stood in the shower until the water ran cold both times. I eventually stopped taking him as a client

[Bosguy]

IMO, if a session gets down to splitting hairs over 10 minutes, then you are a questionable performer to begin with. A good escort promises the MINIMUM but delivers the MAXIMUM. For instance...gurantee an hour as an minimum...but that way if you stay far longer, you're just doing yourself a service for repeat clients. Don't promise an hour and short someone, just because you think you're lining stuff up A B C D E. That's stuppppppid.

 

My rule of thumb is only a few people a day, with lots of stagger in between for sexual recovery. I cum with every client, unless I have a movie the next day or something and need a solid shot. For the guys punching the clock 'to the minute'- that's pathetic.

 

The clock should start ticking when the 2 parties are ready. If the escort shows up late, the time should start upon arrival and go the FULL agreed upon time. If the client shows up seriously late, the time has to be based on the escorts schedule for that day/evening. If the escort decides for a legitimate reason he must take a shower and the client agrees, some time consideration should be mediated by the 2.

 

The one thing I would not tolerate is late arrival/start combined with early departure on the part of either party. That is absolutely UNPROFESSIONAL

[Guest Damian_Dallas]

Clock starts when the client arrives.

 

I just read a review today in Daddys Reviews that prompted this question. the OP had a session with the escort, who arrived Late, and then asked to take a shower first, which lasted in excess of 10 minutes...

 

When would the "actual" sex time be calculated from ? (the time he walked in the front door, OR from the time he came out of the shower and they actually got to doing the deed?). From the review, I got the sense the escort started the session when he walked in the door, and therefore was charging the client for his "shower time". Do you think this is FAIR ???

 

 

Yes I think that is fair. The client should have showed up not only on time but also prepared and ready to go if he was going to be upset about losing 10 minutes due to needing to take a shower.

[Michael Wayne]

my new slogan is appropriate here. "I am about the cock- not the clock!" In this economy we as escorts should not be picky about an hour or two hours. Take good care of the client and don't rush him and he will come back to you over and over again. This is a great tip for young escorts or even for older escorts who forget that it is all about customer service! http://www.rentboy.com/mikey9nola1

[jjkrkwood]

my new slogan is appropriate here. "I am about the cock- not the clock!" In this economy we as escorts should not be picky about an hour or two hours. Take good care of the client and don't rush him and he will come back to you over and over again. This is a great tip for young escorts or even for older escorts who forget that it is all about customer service! http://www.rentboy.com/mikey9nola1

 

SURE, WHY RUSH ??? Let the session go past the scheduled hour and tack on a surcharge for overtime. CA-CHING !!!!

 

I think the point here was more if the escort is not prepared to get down to business upon arrival for whatever reason, then the session time should start when the actual contact between the parties starts. If the escort needs to shower or make phone calls, that should not be on the clients Dime.

[nate_sf]

I agree with Mikey, the emphasis should not be on watching the clock. But I don't think he was implying there would be an overtime surcharge... I think he was implying that if time goes over a bit, it's not worth worrying about especially if it means developing a good relationship with a client. With me I don't get too worried if a session goes 10, 20, 30 minutes over if that's what's needed to not rush and allow things to go at a satisfying pace. A full hour over might be a bit much, but extra time here and there should not be a problem. I'd rather do that then rush things, and I would not ask for more fee for this either, which I think Mikey was getting at.

 

But back to the OP, as others have said the escort should expect to stay at least a full hour from when he was showered and ready, or should have invited the client to join him.

[LouieD]

Esort ends session 15 minutes before hour is up... What about that? I recently went to an escort's (well reviewed on this site) hotel for a 1 hour session. I arrived at the agreed time. I had a reasonably satisfactory time (the earth didn't move or the angels sing), but after I climaxed 40 - 45 minutes into the session, he hits the shower and begins calling and texting his friends to meet up later, paying little attention to me and obviously ready for me to leave.

 

I paid him the full amount, but felt cheated and disappoined at being rushed out early.

 

I would have liked the remaining 15 minutes to be spend cuddling or just talking.

 

Should I have deducted the last 15 minutes ($62.50), i.e., withheld the last $50 bill? Write a review, a lukewarm one, mentioning this? Wondering what others think.

[josephga]

I don't think its appropriate to be texting or calling others while in the company of a client maybe that's for another thread lol

[Phil_musc]

For what it's worth, Louie, this has happened to me also. I paid full fare which seems annoying given that the agreement is supposedly for the time you spend together, and when the guy is texting or communicating with somebody else (on my "time") well that just doesn't seem right to me. I almost feel that the guy on the other end ought to be sharing my expense 'cause he's on my time.

[jjkrkwood]

Esort ends session 15 minutes before hour is up... What about that? I recently went to an escort's (well reviewed on this site) hotel for a 1 hour session. I arrived at the agreed time. I had a reasonably satisfactory time (the earth didn't move or the angels sing), but after I climaxed 40 - 45 minutes into the session, he hits the shower and begins calling and texting his friends to meet up later, paying little attention to me and obviously ready for me to leave.

 

I paid him the full amount, but felt cheated and disappoined at being rushed out early.

 

I would have liked the remaining 15 minutes to be spend cuddling or just talking.

 

Should I have deducted the last 15 minutes ($62.50), i.e., withheld the last $50 bill? Write a review, a lukewarm one, mentioning this? Wondering what others think.

 

Yes you should have. If HE was inconsiderate to you, and you felt cheated, you had every right to amend the cost, and call him out on it. Clearly, you wouldnt be using him again, and noone could fault you for your reaction.

[nate_sf]

Yes you should have. If HE was inconsiderate to you, and you felt cheated, you had every right to amend the cost, and call him out on it. Clearly, you wouldnt be using him again, and noone could fault you for your reaction.

 

Ditto. If you were averse to confrontation you could have said something like "do you have to do that right now?" But there's no excuse for it, you shouldn't have to say anything. It's really tacky to be doing unrelated communications during a session, and generally considered a no-no unless it's just once during a long (overnight or longer) appointment.

 

Sometimes sessions go a bit over, but on the other hand sometimes the action brings things to a faster conclusion and that should be OK. If the client is ready to blow, go ahead and blow and enjoy it. But the escort should be prepared to hang around for the full appointment. I've found some of the best conversations have been in those after-moments where yeah you're winding the clock out to to the full scheduled time but end up getting to know the guy and having a really nice exchange.

[SteveEscort]

Having worked as an escort for over a decade, I usually have a fair idea of when an appointment has come to it's natural conclusion.

 

Basically the clock starts when the guy arrives at my apartment or I arrive at his hotel/home. I had a guy arrive at mine a few weeks ago who asked if he could shower here, yes that's not a problem, I prefer guys to shower beforehand. He arrived at 1.30pm. After taking his shower and drying off he looked at the clock and said, ok so it's 1.45pm so is an hour still ok. My 1.30pm to 2.30pm was now ending at 2.45pm but you know I don't really mind and I would never say anything up front to a client in my home but if he's a lawyer, would he allow me 15 minutes for free at the beginning to compose myself. I don't think so.

 

I've visited guys at hotels, been invited for a drink at the bar first and then he's thought my time starts when we get to the room. On longer appointments I don't really mind because if a guy books me for 2 hours on a Thursday evening, he will be the only client I see that evening and I am happy to be flexible off the clock but if someone rings for a 7pm appointment to his hotel for one hour, I generally like to be finished and away by 8.20pm, I may have another appointment lined up for later that evening or I may be meeting friends for drinks. Like a previous contributor said, escorts, in this current climate really shouldn't watch the clock and that's something I never do but you have to be flexible and sensible. Paying £80 for one hour doesn't mean £80 equals two hours.

 

Sometimes a client books for 1 hour and you're away and back in your car within 20 minutes, many men, by nature, turn off the minute they've come and I've had some horny animalistic liaisons in the first 5 minutes of arriving at a clients home and been done and dusted before the kettle has boiled. Other times I have had a client book 2 hours and we've been finished within the hour, you can tell it's not going any further and so I use my discretion as to whether this should only really be charged as an hour.

 

As for escorts phoning friends/texting clients during an appointment - I would never ever do this, sometimes I check my phone at the end if he's in my shower, just to see if I have any missed calls or emails, the client never knows I've done that because I'm discreet. One problem I do get from time to time is the door bell ringing, if you see an escort in their home apartment, outside influence can not be avoided sometimes. The escort can't be held responsible for delivery men, neighbours and door to door sellers knocking at the door. A while back I had someone leave my apartment, without paying because someone repeatedly rang my door bell. He then sent me nasty text messages all day long telling me how indiscreet I was. It was my neighbour whose kid had kicked a football over my wall, he knew I was home because the car was on the drive and I'd only spoken to him, in passing, half an hour earlier. He rang the door bell six times. It was beyond my control. When I text the client back explaining this all I got was a load of abuse

 

I think if clients are sensible and escorts are sensible with times then it makes for a good liaison but the fault isn't always at the hands of the escort

[jjkrkwood]

Sometimes a client books for 1 hour and you're away and back in your car within 20 minutes, many men, by nature, turn off the minute they've come and I've had some horny animalistic liaisons in the first 5 minutes of arriving at a clients home and been done and dusted before the kettle has boiled. Other times I have had a client book 2 hours and we've been finished within the hour, you can tell it's not going any further and so I use my discretion as to whether this should only really be charged as an hour.

 

 

All I have to say on this is since the client is paying, he should be the one driving the session. If he cums quickly and decides to END the session early, thats Fine, the escort should be paid his FULL fee and go on his way. However, if the client wants the escort to hang around and talk or Whatever, he should be prepared to do so if he wants his full fee. If the hire decides to leaves immediately after the client cums, he should adjust his fee and only charge the client his Pro-rated fee for the time spent. Its Fair and kinda makes sense.

[SteveEscort]

All I have to say on this is since the client is paying, he should be the one driving the session. If he cums quickly and decides to END the session early, thats Fine, the escort should be paid his FULL fee and go on his way. However, if the client wants the escort to hang around and talk or Whatever, he should be prepared to do so if he wants his full fee. If the hire decides to leaves immediately after the client cums, he should adjust his fee and only charge the client his Pro-rated fee for the time spent. Its Fair and kinda makes sense.

 

Yes that right, which is what I more or less said when I mentioned that I've had two hour appointments over with in less than hour. If he's finished and wants me to get away I will usually offer back the second hour, it's rare they take it back but I don't want them to feel like that option wasn't there. If a client books 2 hours then he should pay 2 hours but I am not greedy and I want him to come back and get value for money. As I said, it's rare he takes it back, I think it's only happened on a hand full of occasions and I don't feel cheated by that. I'd love the second hour fee lol don't get me wrong but I'd also like to see him again and for him to feel like I was honest.

 

I've never left once a client has cum, I always make a joke and go "Ding ding, round two". They'll either want another session or they'll say "Steve just get yourself away". On odd occasions they've called room service for a glass of wine each or we've had a drink in the bar and a chat. It's their time.