NYC Escort Fees

[kjun]

OK, here we go again with this perennial question.

 

Are you guys actually paying the fees stated by escorts? I ask this because I notice more stating that their fee is $300 and more per hour. There is no way I can afford or will pay that much.

[jjkrkwood]

OK, here we go again with this perennial question.

 

Are you guys actually paying the fees stated by escorts? I ask this because I notice more stating that their fee is $300 and more per hour. There is no way I can afford or will pay that much.

 

Bring them a muffin basket. Maybe they will lower the price ?

[Strafe13]

OK, here we go again with this perennial question.

 

Are you guys actually paying the fees stated by escorts? I ask this because I notice more stating that their fee is $300 and more per hour. There is no way I can afford or will pay that much.

 

I refuse to pay anywhere near that much. My limit is the low 200s, with the exception of one escort who was my very first hire -- I've "grandfathered" him in, so to speak. He was like 225 or so when we first hooked up way back when. Then I hadn't seen him for a few years and his price increased to 260 so I paid him that when we reconnected like 2 years ago (and have done so at the few meetings we've had since). I honestly don't feel comfortable paying even that much, but he holds a special place in my heart as my 1st. (sigh)

 

In fact, I'm seeing someone new this weekend whose hourly rate is 220. If we click, he may become my regular, but only at a rate that I deem reasonable. Once the escort's past that low-200 range I don't feel comfortable and think it goes beyond treating myself to doing myself serious financial harm. At 300/hr or more I think it's outrageous. Just my 2 cents.

[jjkrkwood]

I refuse to pay anywhere near that much. My limit is the low 200s, with the exception of one escort who was my very first hire -- I've "grandfathered" him in, so to speak. He was like 225 or so when we first hooked up way back when. Then I hadn't seen him for a few years and his price increased to 260 so I paid him that when we reconnected like 2 years ago (and have done so at the few meetings we've had since). I honestly don't feel comfortable paying even that much, but he holds a special place in my heart as my 1st. (sigh)

 

In fact, I'm seeing someone new this weekend whose hourly rate is 220. If we click, he may become my regular, but only at a rate that I deem reasonable. Once the escort's past that low-200 range I don't feel comfortable and think it goes beyond treating myself to doing myself serious financial harm. At 300/hr or more I think it's outrageous. Just my 2 cents.

 

Well Strafe I certainly applaude your committment to hiring "within your means". I have posted several times on the topic of high escort pricing, especially in NYC. BUT sadly, I like the escorts that are on the "BIGGER" side, like 10", and those DONT CUM CHEAP.... So at hiring time, I have to splurge. You know what they say "YOU GET WHAT YOU PAY FOR"..... Go to the market and see What a pound of MEAT costs. !!!!

[down_to_business]

Well Strafe I certainly applaude your committment to hiring "within your means". I have posted several times on the topic of high escort pricing, especially in NYC. BUT sadly, I like the escorts that are on the "BIGGER" side, like 10", and those DONT CUM CHEAP.... So at hiring time, I have to splurge. You know what they say "YOU GET WHAT YOU PAY FOR"..... Go to the market and see What a pound of MEAT costs. !!!!

 

I have found in many cases that over the 200 - 225 range the only thing big you are paying for is a big EGO or a big attitude. Don't even bother contacting those $300 an hour guys (or even worse those $ASK guys) and they will eventually get the message and come back down to reality.

[jackcali]

I have found in many cases that over the 200 - 225 range the only thing big you are paying for is a big EGO or a big attitude. Don't even bother contacting those $300 an hour guys (or even worse those $ASK guys) and they will eventually get the message and come back down to reality.

 

Well, I don't want to knock the guys who charge high fees, as that may be a marketing strategy -- such as discounting their rates significantly for multi-hour appointments because that's the business they're looking for -- but I have to say that in my several-year career of hiring escorts at all price points excluding the very highest and lowest, I cannot discern a difference in quality based on price. If you don't want to spend a lot of money, then just look at the guys with the more reasonable prices, choose among them judiciously, and then hold on to the ones who are good. I have three regular guys, two of whom I pay 200 for a 90-minute appointment (sometimes more, sometimes less, as nobody is watching the clock) and the third of whom I pay 150 for an hour. They're all hot, lots of fun and, just as important to me, they seem to enjoy our time together and appreciate my business. I can't imagine what I could get from a 300-an-hour escort that I don't get from my regulars.

[hornytwells]

I have to agree that higher price guys does not necessarily mean attitude-guys will charge what they can get away with and what they feel they are worth. if no-one wants to pay that then they will drop their price> Usually its a porn star who is known through movies-or maybe they want to do fewer clients per day so charge higher so their performance will be better, there are so many reasons, I wouldnt say it was a "given" that they will be no better than the lower end. it has also so much to do with the chemistry between client and escort. That said, gorgeous as Simon Dexter or Harley is, I would not pay $1000 even if I had it. For that money I want Ryan Reynolds! (yeah, in my dreams, I know......) Tony Capucci is another porn star who charges a huge amount, but in his case I hear it is because he is straight and does not enjoy it, that would never work for me. They have to be at the very least good enough actors to give the impression they enjoy it> I had 2 great sessions with Chris Rockway, and he managed to appear like he had fun even if he didnt!

[JT Brooklyn]

I'm thinking this RATE Conversation goes back to the Greeks and how much a Good Wrestler would cost?

 

The theory has always been "Get What Ya Can As Long as Ya Can"! A Fool and his Money...Ya know the rest!

[+ Axiom2001]

One very well respectable escort in the SF Bay area has charged $150 since he's been escorting (which is NOT his only job); he's been stellar in many ways; thus I've seen him often over the years. But during these years, I've chiefly doled out the $200 through $250 requested fee. One of my favorite men requests $350 for two hours, I've done this; last month he received $500 for almost five hours. He is truly one of the best!!!!

 

But in response to the initial query, yes, I've reluctantly paid $300 for an hour; this has happened in three cases, but I truly prefer to pay from $150--$250. I'll continue to pay my TB his requested $350 for two hours and more if I want to be basking in a super-afterglow for many weeks to come!!!!!

[daviddd49]

$300 per hour.

$500 for two hours (which, in my way of thinking, is $250 per hour)

 

This is about as high as I'll go. Most of the escorts I see charge between $150 and $225 per-hour, which I consider entirely acceptable.

I have a few "regulars" whom I see every-other-month or so when on business trips around the country. These escorts are superb guys, wonderful in bed, and fun to be with. I probably spend more money then I should, but I enjoy being with them.

[Epigonos]

Checking out the ads on rentboy one sees more and more guys having an asking price of $300+ an hour here in the Southern California market. As far as I'm concerned they have the right to ask any price they think the traffic will bear.

 

I NEVER hire for one hour. I arrange get togethers for two hours plus lunch or dinner (the escort's choice). For that type of arrangement I expect to pay around $500.00. I have paid as much as $600, BUT only once or twice. When the escorts asks more than I willing to pay I thank him, apologize for wasting his time, and sign off. On several occasions the escorts has then offered a lower price. Bargaining, however, is something I absolutely refuse to do. I realize that a number of guys posting here won’t agree with me regarding this but that is how I operate and I’m not about to change.

 

In a number of cases I have found that escorts asking $300+ per hour will, right up front, ask $500 for my type of arrangement. I assume that they have determined ahead of time that they would rather make $500 for the longer period of time rather than the $300 for one hour. Sounds like a good business practice to me.

[JT Brooklyn]

Let us not forget the "Newbie Working Guys" who just because they got a couple of "Gigs in Porno Shoots" they think they are worth Top Shelf Rates!

 

Maybe for the Moment they are to the Star Struck type of Clients.

 

I guess they are not realising the long line behind them of "Wanna be Stars" who will be replacing most of them in 6 months...and they had better have a few "Regs" which are there because there Rates were negotiable....

[nynakedtop]

I agree with Epigonos in that bargaining with an escort/masseur is something that I refuse to do. I believe it compromises everyone's dignity and ultimately no one wins. If someone quotes me a price that is too high and I politely decline, it is not with an expectation of receiving a "counter-offer". I treat these guys as professionals selling a service and will not try to get them to lower a price. I know that it sounds foolish of me (I have the same silly standard when I am in Southeast Asia at a street market and always get ripped off, hehe)... But it is how I prefer to live.

 

Having said all that, I wonder: if an escort does lower a price, do you think that he also lowers the quality of the session? Just wondering!

[jimboivyo]

manhattan is one of the most expensive cities in the world and you're complaining about $250+ escort rates? if you have a problem with what someone is charging or can't afford it, then don't hire them. Simple as that. Complaining about it doesn't do any good.

 

Lots of high rate guys out there who are getting the money they charge.

[Michael Wayne]

i AM GLAD THERE IS STILL A HIGH END MARKET! However, as far as attracting regulars and repeats, 300 is high- in my opinion. the one lesson above all others that I have learned in many years as an escort is that REGULARS and REPEATS are what produce longevity and success in the biz. In my opinion the guys above 300 (i just saw a guy in la postin $400) are in it for a short time trying to raise large sums of cash quickly for whatever reason. I will not say the reason but yall know exactly the reason I am referring to. Question is this: we have a new generation of newbies using cl, adam, and backpage offering full service for 80 or 100 bucks all over the country. Some of them are smokin hot and SOBER. Will the high end guys who won't come down survive? My rate has always been 150 or 200. I find 150 attracts good clients and 200 attracts GREAT clients. 300, 250, 350, etc. for me would mean RETIREMENT I am afraid. I'd be playing with my 9 iron on the golf course instead of my 9 inch (lol) later guys . http://www.rentboy.com/mikey9nola1

[nynakedtop]

manhattan is one of the most expensive cities in the world and you're complaining about $250+ escort rates? if you have a problem with what someone is charging or can't afford it, then don't hire them. Simple as that. Complaining about it doesn't do any good.

 

Lots of high rate guys out there who are getting the money they charge.

 

true.... but as a new yorker i know the power of "voting with my feet" - just as i walk away from overpriced taxis, i can choose to walk away from other overpriced service providers. new york may be expensive, but it is so for a reason. here we can enjoy life to the fullest as well as decide what that means to us. it is a place where choice and option are the rule of the day!

[Irtwo]

Epigonos, when you say you book for two hours plus dinner, is the dinner part of the 2 hours, or in addition? (In other words, are you really spending 3 hours with him)? And do you take them to an expensive restaurant or a more of a diner?

[Guest Connoisseur]

manhattan is one of the most expensive cities in the world and you're complaining about $250+ escort rates? if you have a problem with what someone is charging or can't afford it, then don't hire them. Simple as that. Complaining about it doesn't do any good.

 

Lots of high rate guys out there who are getting the money they charge.

 

Don't see any reason to get snotty about the original posters comments. Pull your knickers out of your crack and calm down. You were rude and that's not necessary. I don't think the adults on this board need to be reminded that it's "somewhat" still America and they can pay what they want or look elsewhere. I have only had a few recent encounters and the guys have been fantastic and for a couple of days together 1500 or less so there is quality out there if one is patient and ok to say "no" when the rate gets up there. Neither of the two recent guys had to come down, they were just easy economically up front. The 300 per hour, 2500 per night, 5000 per weekend guys can take your money, not mine. Even though I have it doesn't mean it needs to become theirs.

[Epigonos]

Irtwo.

 

I expect to pay between $500 and $600 dollars for lunch or dinner (the escorts choice) AND two hours of play time. I of course pay for the meal and try to find a nice restaurant.

 

Connoisseur,

 

Thanks you for making a very valid point.

[jackcali]

I agree with Epigonos in that bargaining with an escort/masseur is something that I refuse to do. . . . Having said all that, I wonder: if an escort does lower a price, do you think that he also lowers the quality of the session? Just wondering!

 

I also refuse to bargain about price because it starts the relationship off on the wrong foot and because I figure the escort really has to have his head in the game in order for me to get the feeling that he's into the encounter rather than just going through the motions. I doubt the escort, after a negotiation, consciously lowers the quality of the session, but if he carries some residual hostility from the negotiation, it would be difficult to perform at the same level as before.

 

I should mention that, while I won't negotiate over price, I sometimes ask for more time, like 90 minutes from someone with a high one-hour rate or a two-hour session for only slightly more than the one-hour rate. I know that some will say that that's the same as negotiating over price, but I don't think so. Unless the escort books every hour of the day (like a theraputic massage therapist), then spending a long hour with me does not interfere with the rest of his business.

[down_to_business]

I also refuse to bargain about price because it starts the relationship off on the wrong foot and because I figure the escort really has to have his head in the game in order for me to get the feeling that he's into the encounter rather than just going through the motions. I doubt the escort, after a negotiation, consciously lowers the quality of the session, but if he carries some residual hostility from the negotiation, it would be difficult to perform at the same level as before.

 

I should mention that, while I won't negotiate over price, I sometimes ask for more time, like 90 minutes from someone with a high one-hour rate or a two-hour session for only slightly more than the one-hour rate. I know that some will say that that's the same as negotiating over price, but I don't think so. Unless the escort books every hour of the day (like a theraputic massage therapist), then spending a long hour with me does not interfere with the rest of his business.

 

 

Hate to break it to you, but negotiating over time is exactly the same as negotiating over rate-- not that there is anything at all wrong with negotiating in a free market economy. Sometime a seller of goods or provider of a service needs feedback to understand that their prices are too high.

 

As to whether or not an escort would lower the quality of their service over a negotiated rate, not if he was professional. Do you feel your dentist gives you substandard service if you use a coupon he puts in the yellow pages? What about the auto detailer when you use a groupon?

 

All we can do is express here and other places that rates (taken as a whole) have gotten way out of control. Whether or not the escorts that read these boards chose to listen is their choice and their choice alone to make. They have every right they want to charge whatever price they want to and we have every right to (and should) take our business elsewhere.

 

Of course JB/BN would probably advise you to pay double the stated rates no matter what they were for a session so you can feel twice as good about yourself.

[uwsman2]

My general rule is never to negotiate over price, and only to call escorts who are advertising a rate. The ones who just say "call me" don't get my calls, because I don't want to be in a situation where I am negotiating about prices. I just think it sets the wrong mood for this kind of service. One time I made an exception to this rule. I suddenly had open time on a Sunday afternoon and enough cash on hand for some spontaneous excitement. I'm in NYC. I went on rentboy and made a list of guys in whom I was interested who were within my price range and who had their green lights on. I started calling and go nowhere. Nobody was home, lots of voicemail, etc. I went back to rentboy and saw an ad of a totally hot guy with an "ask me" for the price. Since none of the guys on my list seemed to be available, I decided to call him. He quoted an hourly of $350. That was just too far out of my range and available disposable cash for the afternoon and I said that was too steep for me, so no thanks. Before I could hang up he was starting to negotiate and we ended up negotiating a fee. I don't even remember what it was. When I showed up at his place, he was friendly enough but the atmosphere was just not OK. It felt too much like a comodity exchange sort of thing. Maybe I'm wrong to generalize from one experience, but my rule since then has been "never again." No negotiating of fees, and only contacting guys who advertise rates within my range.

 

Which means that my choice is cut down substantially these days with so many guys - even new entries to the market without porn star celebrity status - advertising ridiculously high rates for hourly sessions. Mikey's got it right: a good income in this business stems from regulars and repeats, so many escorts have said so, so the important things is getting guys into the door and making them feel appreciated, and starting out with ultra-high rates is unlikely to accomplish that. But, of course, as has also been said in this thread, escorts are entitled to charge what the market can bear, and if they can achieve their economic aims by high pricing, it's not our place as clients to criticize.

[jimboivyo]

Of course JB/BN would probably advise you to pay double the stated rates no matter what they were for a session so you can feel twice as good about yourself.

 

bitter, party of one, your table is available.

[jackcali]

Hate to break it to you, but negotiating over time is exactly the same as negotiating over rate . . . As to whether or not an escort would lower the quality of their service over a negotiated rate, not if he was professional.

 

I don't think negotiating over time and money is the same. If the escort only does one or two or three sessions a day (which is the case of many escorts), and I'm one of his sessions, then an extra 30 minutes does not cost him anything in terms of lost business opportunity. (Certainly, dtb, you're sophisticated enough not to believe that the escort's time is all we're buying.) If you happen to measure his value in dollars per hour, then he seems to be making less money. If you measure it in dollars per orgasm, to choose a different metric, he's making the same.

 

Another point. I am a professional and some of my clients negotiate my fee. While I certainly do the same quality work for them as for those who pay my full fee, I don't like them as much and don't enjoy my work for them as much, knowing that they negotiated down my fee. In my case, that's invisible to my client, but an escort may not always be able to so easily hide that from his client.

[raife]

Hate to break it to you, but negotiating over time is exactly the same as negotiating over rate...

 

Maybe the same to an accountant but feels much different in practice to ask if I can get 90 mins for that price rather than saying "I'm only offering you $x-100..." That said, the whole "hourly rate" concept stinks IMO, curses to Rentboy and the other sites that promote it. Back to session pricing!

 

Sometime a seller of goods or provider of a service needs feedback to understand that their prices are too high.

 

That would be the crickets chirping in the silence while the phone is not ringing.

 

As to whether or not an escort would lower the quality of their service over a negotiated rate, not if he was professional. Do you feel your dentist gives you substandard service if you use a coupon he puts in the yellow pages? What about the auto detailer when you use a groupon?

 

You're not negotiating with those guys, you're taking them up on their "specials".

 

Of course JB/BN would probably advise you to pay double the stated rates no matter what they were for a session so you can feel twice as good about yourself.

 

<Snort> Eggsactly! (luckily, I wouldn't know...)