A la carte question.

[mansniffing]

Two friends of mine told me that they've recently had à la carte experiences. One fellow charged extra for kissing and another for water sports. Is this an anomaly or a common practice?

[Diverdan]

Probably not common, but there have been posts about some escorts who charge by the service instead of for their time. The old adage, "buyer beware" applies here too.

[jjkrkwood]

I was never a fan of A la Carte. I am more of a Smorgasborg guy !

[down_to_business]

This used to be a common practice in certain markets like Las Vegas and from certain massage providers that have upgradable massages. Otherwise it is not common at all and definitely not well accepted or liked. In this worsening economy, you shouldn't have to put up with either mediocre or unprofessional service. Even well established and well reviewed escorts are slashing rates from the posted ridiculous to the affordable -- so you have no need to go with one of the alacarte hustlers who do this unless you really want to.

[Juan Vancouver]

Watersports is an entirely different thing.

 

While I think charging more for kissing goes against the way I see my profession, I totally understand having a different rate for watersports. I specialize in Ws and love to do it. I have a lot of experience and have done exhaustive research, and I think that charging the same normal rate that I charge for my time just doesn't make sense at all.

 

If what you want is your escort to squirt some pee on you, then sure, I think it's the same thing, but if you want to have a session in which your escort is pissing for the whole hour or hours an endless stream of healthy, delicious pee, if you want him to taste good and know how to prepare, then this is a highly specialized activity.

 

To successfully prepare for one hour of watersports you have to modify your diet one day in advance and at least three or four hours before the session you have to start drinking and flushing till you are perfectly full, perfectly clean, perfectly ready for your session.

 

For the three or four hours previous to your session, and a good two hours after that, it is quite difficult to do anything else aside from peeing. It is impossible to see other clients or even go to the gym during that time.

 

An hour of successful watersports will take at least between five to seven hours of an escort's time.

 

In my personal opinion both Watersports and full fledged, fully equipped BDSM are an entirely different realm compared to spending time with a client.

 

If I were a client and were interested in experimenting with any of those activities I would make sure to go with someone who KNOWS perfectly well what he is doing, what are the possible consequences of doing it, knows how to deal with them and has extensive experience. This degree of specialization, in my personal opinion, should be rewarded, acknowledged and paid for.

[rocky]

Funny, I just ran in to a "service provider" who said that if there was kissing involved it would

be an extra $25 and if I wanted this another $25; needless to say I said no thanks, he couldn't

understand why.

[+ g56whiz]

I got a toe curling lap dance at Club 20 years ago from a guy who turned out to be a noted Brazilian escort who travels widely. I engaged him for a multi-hour on he next trip to the big apple. It was preceded by various e-mails including an extensive questionnaire about my sexual past and expectations. I couldn't wait for my session with this muscular marvel. Two days prior, I got an e-mail from him explaining that his top dollar multi-hour fee did not include his "getting off". If I wanted him to cum, during our time together there would be an additional fee of $100. I cancelled explaining that it was not critical to me but that his very business like approach to the engagement robbed me of any ability to fantasize which is a component of many escort engagements.

[jjkrkwood]

Funny, I just ran in to a "service provider" who said that if there was kissing involved it would

be an extra $25 and if I wanted this another $25; needless to say I said no thanks, he couldn't

understand why.

 

He can KISS MY ASS, and then pay ME $25.....

[mansniffing]

While I think charging more for kissing goes against the way I see my profession, I totally understand having a different rate for watersports. I specialize in Ws and love to do it. I have a lot of experience and have done exhaustive research, and I think that charging the same normal rate that I charge for my time just doesn't make sense at all.

 

If what you want is your escort to squirt some pee on you, then sure, I think it's the same thing, but if you want to have a session in which your escort is pissing for the whole hour or hours an endless stream of healthy, delicious pee, if you want him to taste good and know how to prepare, then this is a highly specialized activity.

 

What I wanted to know and how Bruno explained it to me is sound and perfectly reasonable. Thanks for sharing,

[Decatur Guy]

Juan, what you said on the w/s makes a lot of sense. What do you modify in your diet a day ahead?

[JT Brooklyn]

To "Kiss or Piss" that's the question!

 

Kissing "Questionable" due to the fact there's Dry Kissing and there's Wet Kissing!

 

"Pissing" well that's just an aquired ala carte for most "Fetish" for sure! Costing realistically more!

[Juan Vancouver]

Juan, what you said on the w/s makes a lot of sense. What do you modify in your diet a day ahead?

 

There are many foods that change the flavour of your fluids considerably, so I prefer to stay on a clean diet, lots of fruits, few vegetables and clean protein.

[mmk123]

I got a toe curling lap dance at Club 20 years ago from a guy who turned out to be a noted Brazilian escort who travels widely. I engaged him for a multi-hour on he next trip to the big apple. It was preceded by various e-mails including an extensive questionnaire about my sexual past and expectations. I couldn't wait for my session with this muscular marvel. Two days prior, I got an e-mail from him explaining that his top dollar multi-hour fee did not include his "getting off". If I wanted him to cum, during our time together there would be an additional fee of $100. I cancelled explaining that it was not critical to me but that his very business like approach to the engagement robbed me of any ability to fantasize which is a component of many escort engagements.

 

That sounds like Ricardo Milos. I had contacted him a few years ago when he traveled to the city where I live. I was sent a questionnaire and did respond to it since I was still interested in meeting with him at that time. I did tell him that I do enjoy seeing the escort get off. He did respond to me that for him to get off that it would

a) be an extra $100 and

b) he normally does not get off because it is all about fullfilling the fantasy of the client

I did respond to him that part of my fantasy about being with an escort is to see him get off. I did thank him for his honesty but I told him that I would not be able to meet up with him

[+ Shoreboy]

I had a good laugh not too long ago with an escort...

 

When he arrived he told me it was $100 extra for him to cum.

 

I very nicely said no to his request but told him that I would take $100 off of his fee if he could not make me cum.

 

Now mind you recently I have had some minor (thank God prostate problems) and the result it that it takes me ages to cum.

 

But this escort was arrogant and said that was "no problem"...and off he began to try to get me off.

 

Well after what I am sure seemed like days for him he still could not get me to cum and he finally gave up and went home with $100 taken off of his fee.

 

so, if someone wants more money for extra try some bartering.....I may not have cum but I had a great time seeing him do everything possible to earn that $100

[JT Brooklyn]

There are those "Working Guys" who do like a Busy Day to cover their Over Head if Traveling especially. That means doing as many as possible in a 12 hour day!

 

So ya can't expect them to "Squirt" everytime with every Client. So it has always been MY First question! IF they say MAYBE..Fageddaboutit!

[jjkrkwood]

I had a good laugh not too long ago with an escort...

 

When he arrived he told me it was $100 extra for him to cum.

 

I very nicely said no to his request but told him that I would take $100 off of his fee if he could not make me cum.

 

Now mind you recently I have had some minor (thank God prostate problems) and the result it that it takes me ages to cum.

 

But this escort was arrogant and said that was "no problem"...and off he began to try to get me off.

 

Well after what I am sure seemed like days for him he still could not get me to cum and he finally gave up and went home with $100 taken off of his fee.

 

so, if someone wants more money for extra try some bartering.....I may not have cum but I had a great time seeing him do everything possible to earn that $100

 

I think the main point to be taken away from your post SB, is that you should always remember that YOU are the client and paying the fee, and therefore YOU basically should have the upper hand in the negotiations. And remember too, there are more fish in the sea, so if things dont work out with the fish you have, throw it back and resume fishing....Escorts are business men, and if they want to earn money, they should have learned to be more "flexible" with negotiations....

[raulgmanzo]

I don't see anything wrong with charging a la carte as long as the escort is upfront about it.

However I find it simpler to simply charge one price. Yes even for BDSM and watersports both of which I do quite a bit.

 

As for preparation why would I charge extra for eating a healthy diet? Sure I will make a point of avoiding certain foods that color or flavor ones fluids. Or make a point of eating foods which counteract those other foods. And since my main mode of transport is by bicycle I already am in the habit of drinking lots of water.

 

Basically for water sports one wants to eat a lot of fruit, avoid dairy and except for specialized purposes avoid crucferous vegetables and a few other things. Like beets make things red, turmeric makes ones piss yellow etc. However lots of things can balance out other things. So for example eating Garlic doesn't have to be a problem because one can eat something rich in chlorophyl. Personally I've a large herb garden and eat gobs and gobs of pestos of all kinds nearly everyday.

 

But yeah fruit is the most important and luckily I love fruit. Yesterday was fairly typical and I ate a pint of blueberries, half a pint of cranberries, several plums, an apple, pear, a honeydew melon, nearly a pound of cherries, an avocado, two kiwis, a couple tomatoes, fresh figs, a mango and banana. Well thats what I remember.

 

Yeah my grocery bill is really high and I shop almost every day but having good health and stamina is worth every penny.

[+ Axiom2001]

Two friends of mine told me that they've recently had à la carte experiences. One fellow charged extra for kissing and another for water sports. Is this an anomaly or a common practice?

 

I hope it is not common practice. From my experiences it hasn't been, and I've been with some of the best guys in the field.

Last Saturday the wonderful escort who was with me for almost five hours did everything with and to me exceedingly well. He even let

me put some fingers up his hot hole; he flexed his anal muscles fantastically, too; he considers himself top/versatile.

Damn, I had the most wonderful, wonderful time with his company as well as with the "man-to-man" sex rendered!!!!

[+ Axiom2001]

While I think charging more for kissing goes against the way I see my profession, I totally understand having a different rate for watersports. I specialize in Ws and love to do it. I have a lot of experience and have done exhaustive research, and I think that charging the same normal rate that I charge for my time just doesn't make sense at all.

 

If what you want is your escort to squirt some pee on you, then sure, I think it's the same thing, but if you want to have a session in which your escort is pissing for the whole hour or hours an endless stream of healthy, delicious pee, if you want him to taste good and know how to prepare, then this is a highly specialized activity.

 

To successfully prepare for one hour of watersports you have to modify your diet one day in advance and at least three or four hours before the session you have to start drinking and flushing till you are perfectly full, perfectly clean, perfectly ready for your session.

 

For the three or four hours previous to your session, and a good two hours after that, it is quite difficult to do anything else aside from peeing. It is impossible to see other clients or even go to the gym during that time.

 

An hour of successful watersports will take at least between five to seven hours of an escort's time.

 

In my personal opinion both Watersports and full fledged, fully equipped BDSM are an entirely different realm compared to spending time with a client.

 

If I were a client and were interested in experimenting with any of those activities I would make sure to go with someone who KNOWS perfectly well what he is doing, what are the possible consequences of doing it, knows how to deal with them and has extensive experience. This degree of specialization, in my personal opinion, should be rewarded, acknowledged and paid for.

 

Juan, I read your entire wonderful post but truly connected with your last sentences. I must meet you before you decide to "hang up the shingle!" Perhaps sometime in the spring in 2012...

[crok]

There are many foods that change the flavour of your fluids considerably, so I prefer to stay on a clean diet, lots of fruits, few vegetables and clean protein.

 

 

Eat LOTS of asparagus!

[Steven_Draker]

Eat LOTS of asparagus!

 

Eating a lot of asparagus will have the OPPOSITE effect !

 

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[josephga]

asparagus, fish, eggs, peanuts can give pee a bad smell or taste. a person can change it by drinking fruit juices and bottled waters.

[Phil_musc]

Asparagus is among the WORST. Before I realized this, I'd eat asparagus and then later when standing at a urinal, I'd smell this absolutely godawful stench and think, "Jesus Christ, whose urine smells so vile?" It was one of those shocking moments of self discovery when I figured it out. I also think broccoli might not be too good either, but I'm not sure about that.

[seeker630]

Eating a lot of asparagus will have the OPPOSITE effect ![/color]

 

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I think he knew that.

[Steven_Draker]

Two friends of mine told me that they've recently had à la carte experiences. One fellow charged extra for kissing and another for water sports. Is this an anomaly or a common practice?

 

Personally, I've never charged à la carte. I understand that some of my fellow escorts do, but is just not me ... like asking for the money upfront.