The BIG DEAL about the ONE HOUR APPT

[6832white]

I've read this column in Daddy's for years -- and year after year, one of the biggest and most frequent complaints from clients is how guys rush them during that one hour session, often asking the client to "get on with it already". One telltale sign of doom - the guy asking for money upfront and the guy leaving barely after 15-30 minutes of the appointment. I feel the same way and agree with everyone else.

 

So here is my big question out there to the guys -- what if the big effing thing about an hour that they need to hurry up and get out of there before the hour? Where's the big rush? Is there a taxi waiting for them outside or a plane to catch to Barcelona? Almost everything else stands by the one-hour rule -- psychiatrists go by the hour, so does your personal trainer, every lawyer charges by the hour. So what is the big deal of having the guy at least stick to his part of the bargain and finish off the hour and not rush the client? Are the guys' times so much more valuable than the clients?

 

I happen to think I've always been a fair client but I think it would be very nice if the guy DID hang around just a little bit just to chat or cuddle. The most successful guys actually out there seem to deliver the same thing - respect for the client's time, some sense of focus on the client's basic needs, and just being a nice guy. I guess these qualities are hard to find these days.

[jjkrkwood]

I've read this column in Daddy's for years -- and year after year, one of the biggest and most frequent complaints from clients is how guys rush them during that one hour session, often asking the client to "get on with it already". One telltale sign of doom - the guy asking for money upfront and the guy leaving barely after 15-30 minutes of the appointment. I feel the same way and agree with everyone else.

 

So here is my big question out there to the guys -- what if the big effing thing about an hour that they need to hurry up and get out of there before the hour? Where's the big rush? Is there a taxi waiting for them outside or a plane to catch to Barcelona? Almost everything else stands by the one-hour rule -- psychiatrists go by the hour, so does your personal trainer, every lawyer charges by the hour. So what is the big deal of having the guy at least stick to his part of the bargain and finish off the hour and not rush the client? Are the guys' times so much more valuable than the clients?

 

I happen to think I've always been a fair client but I think it would be very nice if the guy DID hang around just a little bit just to chat or cuddle. The most successful guys actually out there seem to deliver the same thing - respect for the client's time, some sense of focus on the client's basic needs, and just being a nice guy. I guess these qualities are hard to find these days.

 

I would think that those "Rush" guys consider what they are doing true WORK, and really dont enjoy it. Maybe they are Gay for Pay and want to get it over with as quickly as possible and get out of there. Maybe they hate themselves for being trapped in a job they dont like. Whatever it is, it doesnt inspire Repeat business, and if they are in it for the money, they are defeating their purpose because from what I have heard from the escorts, the bulk of their money comes from REPEAT business..... If the escort makes it ALL about himself, that isnt a guy i would re-hire or recommend.

[seeker630]

I would think that those "Rush" guys consider what they are doing true WORK, and really dont enjoy it. Maybe they are Gay for Pay and want to get it over with as quickly as possible and get out of there. Maybe they hate themselves for being trapped in a job they dont like. Whatever it is, it doesnt inspire Repeat business, and if they are in it for the money, they are defeating their purpose because from what I have heard from the escorts, the bulk of their money comes from REPEAT business..... If the escort makes it ALL about himself, that isnt a guy i would re-hire or recommend.

 

For those guys (escorts) who view it primarily as 'work' , I suspect their view is that they are hired to do a 'job', and in their minds, the job is to perform a particular action (top, etc.) or to achieve a particular outcome (climax). Once they've 'done what they were hired to do' or 'given the client what he wanted' (an orgasm), they view the 'job' as done.

 

Good escorts have a broader view of what they are hired to provide (an 'experience', perhaps?) and they also have some fun doing it.

[tenderloin]

For those guys (escorts) who view it primarily as 'work' , I suspect their view is that they are hired to do a 'job', and in their minds, the job is to perform a particular action (top, etc.) or to achieve a particular outcome (climax). Once they've 'done what they were hired to do' or 'given the client what he wanted' (an orgasm), they view the 'job' as done.

 

Good escorts have a broader view of what they are hired to provide (an 'experience', perhaps?) and they also have some fun doing it.

 

You are absolutely right. I much prefer an ongoing relationship with an escort, and these guys in a hurry guarantee a no repeat. I remember one guy who excused himself to visit the loo after climax (about 40 minutes into the hour), and returned fully dressed -- including shoes! I felt humiliated and insulted. He followed up with an email asking when we would get together again for another "hot time" and I explained why he wouldn't see me again. Oh, the lessons we learn....LOL

[jjkrkwood]

For those guys (escorts) who view it primarily as 'work' , I suspect their view is that they are hired to do a 'job', and in their minds, the job is to perform a particular action (top, etc.) or to achieve a particular outcome (climax). Once they've 'done what they were hired to do' or 'given the client what he wanted' (an orgasm), they view the 'job' as done.

 

If that is the case Seeker, and he has advertised $300 per hr, and the actual time was LESS than the 1 hour contract, HE SHOULD PRO-RATE HIS FEE, and charge actual time.

[seeker630]

For those guys (escorts) who view it primarily as 'work' , I suspect their view is that they are hired to do a 'job', and in their minds, the job is to perform a particular action (top, etc.) or to achieve a particular outcome (climax). Once they've 'done what they were hired to do' or 'given the client what he wanted' (an orgasm), they view the 'job' as done.

 

If that is the case Seeker, and he has advertised $300 per hr, and the actual time was LESS than the 1 hour contract, HE SHOULD PRO-RATE HIS FEE, and charge actual time.

 

I agree, but my point was that, in their minds, they are being paid by the 'job' and not the hour. So, once they finish the job, they 'leave work early'.

[jjkrkwood]

 

I agree, but my point was that, in their minds, they are being paid by the 'job' and not the hour. So, once they finish the job, they 'leave work early'.

 

Yup, i understand your point, and if that is the case, then just put a fee, and leave the timeframe "open-ended"... That way they can cover themselves for a "quickie" and the client doesnt feel scammed since it was Upfront..

[orbital sander]

I would think that those "Rush" guys consider what they are doing true WORK, and really dont enjoy it. Maybe they are Gay for Pay and want to get it over with as quickly as possible and get out of there. Maybe they hate themselves for being trapped in a job they dont like. Whatever it is, it doesnt inspire Repeat business, and if they are in it for the money, they are defeating their purpose because from what I have heard from the escorts, the bulk of their money comes from REPEAT business..... If the escort makes it ALL about himself, that isnt a guy i would re-hire or recommend.

 

Perhaps the acceptance of this behavior by consumers is why this continues happen...

I think that far too often the client does not voice objections to bad behavior, they just accept it and then fume on a review page later (which is helpful to others), however, if bad behavior is not identified, then most likely it will continue...as we have often noticed...

[colbyjansen]

Never do I try to jet out if a 1hr session early, that said, I'm also being compensated for my time. So,if I get to a call at say 5pm and we get acquainted for 10-15 minutes, I'm not jumping out the door right at 6pm. However, once it gets towards 6:30pm and I ask if he wants another hour and he says no, I have to end the session. Now, as much as the escort is annoying for shutting down early, the client who intentionally trys to drag the 1hr call for a free 2nd hour annoys most escorts I'm sure.

 

It's a give and take, if I've got a guy who I've seen a few times for 2hr appointments, I have no issue chilling with him for a while. But a 1st meeting, like anything both the escort and the client should put their best foot forward. I have certain rules I stick to and I would think most clients do as well. In the end both parties should be satisfied, if not it's usually a combination of both parties' fault.

[+ Charlie]

I think that Colby has put the escort's point of view very well. Most people who are paid by the hour expect to work one hour (I am one of them). If he hangs around longer, it's a gift for the client, and the client should appreciate it as such, rather than expect it. I think many of the complaints about "clockwatchers" stem from the client's fantasy that the escort is enjoying himself so much that he forgets the time or doesn't care. Of course, if he is obviously checking his watch between thrusts, it chills some of the thrill that the client is paying for, and he deserves the criticism, but it's not fair to expect the escort to simply ignore the clock if he has been told that he is being hired for one hour. I think many clients think "one hour" means one hour of sex, but an escort is being paid for one hour of of his time, and that includes the prelims and post-coital activity.

[seeker630]

I think that Colby has put the escort's point of view very well. Most people who are paid by the hour expect to work one hour (I am one of them). If he hangs around longer, it's a gift for the client, and the client should appreciate it as such, rather than expect it. I think many of the complaints about "clockwatchers" stem from the client's fantasy that the escort is enjoying himself so much that he forgets the time or doesn't care. Of course, if he is obviously checking his watch between thrusts, it chills some of the thrill that the client is paying for, and he deserves the criticism, but it's not fair to expect the escort to simply ignore the clock if he has been told that he is being hired for one hour. I think many clients think "one hour" means one hour of sex, but an escort is being paid for one hour of of his time, and that includes the prelims and post-coital activity.

 

I agree. I like to chat a bit ('getting to know you time', as Colby calls it) before proceeding to the action, and I like to cuddle and chat afterwards. (I always make these preferences know before I hire.) So, if the session runs 10-15 mins over, I'll tip (20-25%, usually). Occasionally, with a known or well-reviewed guy, I'll make the appointment for an hour & a half or two. But on one or 2 occasions, the guy has gotten up and gotten dressed at EXACTLY 60 mins; in those instances, I didn't tip.

[JT Brooklyn]

What the last 2 guys said!

[nate_sf]

I agree. I like to chat a bit ('getting to know you time', as Colby calls it) before proceeding to the action, and I like to cuddle and chat afterwards. (I always make these preferences know before I hire.) So, if the session runs 10-15 mins over, I'll tip (20-25%, usually). Occasionally, with a known or well-reviewed guy, I'll make the appointment for an hour & a half or two. But on one or 2 occasions, the guy has gotten up and gotten dressed at EXACTLY 60 mins; in those instances, I didn't tip.

 

I think this is a good use of whether or not to tip. I know there are a couple of threads about tipping going on and I haven't read through them, but this seems like a good way to acknowledge if someone has been generous with his time.

 

To add to Colby's remarks, I think the getting to know you time is important, and I'd rather have the appointment go a few minutes over in order to allow for that instead of rushing right into things. I've had one-hour appointments where the client was so concerned about keeping it within one hour that he was watching the clock from the start and not able to relax - like we'd better get down to business or the time will be up too soon. I'd rather let things go over, and although I would not expect a tip for doing so it would definitely be appreciated.

[orbital sander]

I cannot imagine that a tip ever hurts...

 

However, it seems tacky that there are some who ask for or even expect a tip...which leads me to wonder why they are not asking a rate that satisfies them to begin with???

[+ newatthis]

...I've had one-hour appointments where the client was so concerned about keeping it within one hour that he was watching the clock from the start and not able to relax - like we'd better get down to business or the time will be up too soon...

When I started hiring, that was a worry of mine. My solution was to say up front that being the timekeeper would spoil the experience for me and ask the escort to do that chore. Surprisingly (to me, anyway), most guys were skilled enough to wind things up (emotionally as well as physically) in a natural way close to our agreed-upon time (no one seemed to sweat a few extra minutes). In the occasional case where things looked likely to run considerably overtime, they were equally skilled at making that known and giving me a choice without spoiling the mood.

 

With a new hire, I often ask if he's willing to book a guaranteed hour with an option to extend to two if things are going really well; I don't think anyone has ever said "no." I'd guess that I've taken the extension more often than not.

[jjkrkwood]

When I went back and looked at most of the Rentboy ads, the rate is listed simply, BUT it doesnt specify a time window. I suppose the assumption is that its for an hour, but unless it is CLEARLY stated, its the escorts perogative to end the session early if the "mission is accomplished"....

 

Hiring an escort is in fact entering into a contract, and like any contract the details must be clear and upfront. The suggestion is when discussing the rate prior to the meet, to ask what timeframe the escort provides for his fee. that way there are no misundetrstandings or hard feeling.