Blowing the masseur challenges

[dfw2sfo]

I love to suck dick. Occasionally the masseur is up for being sucked off. It is difficult to give a good bj while you're on your stomach depending on the height differential between masseur and table. When a little oral fun enters the picture what do you boys do? Get up? Make it work? In general I settle back down to finish the massage but would love to sometimes taste the rainbow.

[artichok]

My favorite massage experiences end with me blowing the masseur. I find it best to wait until I have turned onto my back and then take it from there. A few times though, I have just gotten up and then down to my knees!

[nynakedtop]

I have always enjoyed it when, lying on my stomach, my masseur while working my shoulders makes his manly asset available for close inspection and admiration. It nicely sets the tone for the massage and creates a lovely bonding with the provider.

 

Yum.

[+ Axiom2001]

I had a massage from a hot Latino guy in San Francisco. During this wonderful moment, I got up enough courage to ask him if I could "suck" him--he responded in the negative: both of us smiled!!!

[josephga]

Atleast you asked some people wont ask and just think they can help themselves.

[artichok]

I always make sure it is alright with them and make sure they are not uncomfortable.

[Lohengrin1979]

Manners

 

Atleast you asked some people wont ask and just think they can help themselves.

 

I couldnt imagine just helping myself. Some people never fail to surprise me. It should be discussed beforehand ideally. Or, if the masseur won't discuss erotic aspects of their work beforehand, at least ask before you dive on in to the motherland.

Yikes!

 

Regards,

Lohengrin1979

[josephga]

Iv had a few people just try too go for it. i charge 75 for a massage and i find it insulting. some even get pissed off when you say no. I even tell people when booking that my sessions are hand contact only and that i offer no oral or anal contact that offer a safe experience only. still over the years iv had a few smart asses try to just help themselves.

[Nvr2Thick]

Certainly a client should ask first. The details of the service should be worked out up front. I do, however, believe that some masseurs are sending very mixed messages -- sometimes deliberately. Performing massage in the nude and allowing or encouraging the client to stroke you to erection is one example. Advertising on a site featuring mostly escorts, such as Rentboy or Men4RentNow is another -- particularly if you post both massage and escort ads. Posting an ad with explicit nudes is suggestive. I understand that some masseurs are just putting themselves out there as an attractive package, but if a masseur publishes his 9" cock or a massive bulge as part of a "therapeutic" ad he shouldn't get indignant about a client's inappropriate assumptions.

 

I recently hired a masseur whose ad shows almost exclusively shirtless and bulging jock or speedo shots. Pretty good professional massage, but he worked in khakis and a medical scrubs shirt, and was very clear that this was his massage uniform and that none of it came off. Or maybe none of it came off for guys like me...

[bobchitown]

Atleast you asked some people wont ask and just think they can help themselves.

 

True - but it sometimes works in the opposite direction - when the masseur plops his balls down on your face the invitation to partake is fairly unmistakable.

[Lohengrin1979]

Certainly a client should ask first. The details of the service should be worked out up front. I do, however, believe that some masseurs are sending very mixed messages -- sometimes deliberately. Performing massage in the nude and allowing or encouraging the client to stroke you to erection is one example. Advertising on a site featuring mostly escorts, such as Rentboy or Men4RentNow is another -- particularly if you post both massage and escort ads. Posting an ad with explicit nudes is suggestive. I understand that some masseurs are just putting themselves out there as an attractive package, but if a masseur publishes his 9" cock or a massive bulge as part of a "therapeutic" ad he shouldn't get indignant about a client's inappropriate assumptions.

 

I recently hired a masseur whose ad shows almost exclusively shirtless and bulging jock or speedo shots. Pretty good professional massage, but he worked in khakis and a medical scrubs shirt, and was very clear that this was his massage uniform and that none of it came off. Or maybe none of it came off for guys like me...

 

I make it a point in each email or phone call to let my prospective masseur know that I'm looking for a nude, sensual massage. That means both parties nude and a pampering, sensual feel to the massage to me. I've had guys advertising therapeutic only more than willing to fulfill that criteria. It's all about communication. I never try to determine what a masseur offers based on his pictures. The pictures are the hook and the cast, not the haul. I will say that like you, I get indignant when someone advertises sensual services with revealing pictures and then says they wear shorts. I don't take it up with them though, I just move on to a masseur who can meet my needs. They are free to offer what they want, and we are free to take it or walk. The joys of business.

 

Regards,

 

Lohengrin1979

[Decatur Guy]

When I'm getting a massage, I make clear that I want a MASSAGE first and foremost. And I want the full time for massage. I've also said that if the feeling is mutual, and the masseur indicates to me he'd like a post-massage blow job, it's highly likely I'll give one.

 

I had a great massage guy for years, and that was our arrangement. I blew him probably one-quarter of the time. I always left it up to him to make the first move.

[josephga]

I find that saying no always = no tip. I have clients that tip anywhere from 5.00 to 60.00

those that ask if i will blow them or if they can blow me always tip zero once you say no.

[jawjateck]

It is amazing to me how many masseurs, even CMTs, just automatically assume that by being on their table I must want to "get off". Even though I tell 'em I just want the massage, and I'm not interested in anything more. So when I get a little cock reaction to their touch, they ignore what I told them and waste time trying to get me off when it's all my other muscles which need the work. It pisses me off!

 

When I want a masseur, I hire one. When I want an escort, I hire one. I don't blur the lines, but the providers sometimes do.

[josephga]

oh I agree iv heard some stories from clients who have been treated poorly. providers trying to stick their dicks in clients mouths or ass. smelling like pot or being high during the session. lying about training. I have some clients that are in long term relationships that want nothing but a massage. I started asking people when they call which massage do they want therapeutic or therapeutic sensual combination? that way it cuts down on any confusion.

[orbital sander]

It is amazing to me how many masseurs, even CMTs, just automatically assume that by being on their table I must want to "get off". Even though I tell 'em I just want the massage, and I'm not interested in anything more. So when I get a little cock reaction to their touch, they ignore what I told them and waste time trying to get me off when it's all my other muscles which need the work. It pisses me off!

 

When I want a masseur, I hire one. When I want an escort, I hire one. I don't blur the lines, but the providers sometimes do.

 

I cannot agree more. I never get the whole "massage = sex" game. It must be for guys who cannot "hire" an escort, but can deal with a guy who cloaks himself by calling himself a "masseur". Massage is a therapeutic treatment folks...and most legit massage therapists have went through considerable amounts of education and testing. Escorts who pretend to be "masseurs" should be avoided like the plague IMHO

[+ Italiano]

I cannot agree more. I never get the whole "massage = sex" game. It must be for guys who cannot "hire" an escort, but can deal with a guy who cloaks himself by calling himself a "masseur". Massage is a therapeutic treatment folks...and most legit massage therapists have went through considerable amounts of education and testing. Escorts who pretend to be "masseurs" should be avoided like the plague IMHO

 

Well, yes. Definitely when I go for a massage my first requirement is a GOOD or GREAT massage.

But...!

Usually I choose masseurs from masseurfinder or massagem4m, I choose a hot (from pics) masseur and I verify that the massage is nude/sensual and there is a "release" offered". It doesn't happen very often, but I have found great masseurs who offered a top notch massage and with whom I have played a bit, including a few times some oral sex.

Only 4 times in my life it has happened that apart from a great massage made from a superhot masseur, from the table we finished on his bed going for the whole nine yards with no extra charge, and I definitely don't regret to have combined the escort/masseur experience and/or that I have blurred the line!

[josephga]

I would add theres a difference between a masseur and a massage therapist

If a person didn't attend a massage school and did the 500 or more hours and have a certification and a license they are not a massage therapist

[fedssocr1]

I used to see a guy who was in the process of doing his hours to get certified. He was a college gymnast so he had an amazing body in addition to being a very good masseur and a super sweet guy. At the end he usually let me have a little oral fun on him, but there were times when it was clear he wasn't into it so it wasn't really any fun for me either. Unfortunately he went into real estate shortly after that and stopped doing the massage thing as best I could tell.

 

But I will agree with those here saying when I hire some one for a massage I want a good massage first and foremost.

[Rod Hagen]

Let's stop calling non-erotic masseurs "legitimate". Here, on Daddy's, it implies not illegality, a bad thing of course, but rather that erotic massages aren't particularly therapeutic and that our training is far less rich. Neither of which is true in my case nor for most of the other well-reviewed erotic masseurs advertising on Massagem4m and Masseurfinder.

 

Massage Therapist is a term that exists for the same Politically Correct reasons we now have Flight Attendants instead of Stewards and Stewardesses, and less to indicate that a Masseur or Masseuse is nationally certified.

 

On a sexually oriented website such as this there are erotic masseurs and non-erotic masseurs, easy as that.

[+ purplekow]

Mr. Hagen, in your case, the adjective erotic is redundant. You are an erotic masseur but my guess is that you are also an erotic guy buying the newspaper, erotic guy eating lunch, erotic guy driving through the drive-through. Toward that end though, I agree that we still need to check and not just assume an erotic masseur is also looking for an erotic encounter.

[josephga]

In some peoples eyes no type of massage is legit. Iv seen people mention on grindr that they are cooks, barbers, or other jobs and nothing happens if I say i'm a licensed massage therapist the profile gets edited removing that statement. They automatically assume its something dirty

[Electra 225]

I've found that either where (as in category or in website) or how the wording of the masseur's posting in the advertisement describes the session (as well as accompanying photographs) determine how the session will end. To me, the perfect massage session begins with a truly great massage with some, but not too much, talk and then, towards the end of the session, either the masseur, or me--depending upon how the session goes--initiates additional services and/or "contact". Also, I can pretty much tell from the pricing of the massage how it is going to end (if other factors are ambiguous): in the Houston market, if a well-regarded masseur is priced at $1.00 per minute (or so), then there will be, at least a release of additional and built-up tension--again depending upon the wording, placement, and photos in an ad (as well as possible pre-massage discussions). If a masseur is priced at the level of the walk-in "salons", then there is usually just a massage and nothing more. As in everything, it helps to do your research, talk with the masseur about expectations, and go with the flow. I always treat a masseur as if they were going to be either a client or a friend (respect and friendliness) and find that this approach yields superior results.

[+ newatthis]

I've found that either where (as in category or in website) or how the wording of the masseur's posting in the advertisement describes the session (as well as accompanying photographs) determine how the session will end. ...Also, I can pretty much tell from the pricing of the massage how it is going to end (if other factors are ambiguous): in the Houston market, if a well-regarded masseur is priced at $1.00 per minute (or so), then there will be, at least a release of additional and built-up tension--again depending upon the wording, placement, and photos in an ad (as well as possible pre-massage discussions). If a masseur is priced at the level of the walk-in "salons", then there is usually just a massage and nothing more. As in everything, it helps to do your research, talk with the masseur about expectations...

I really wish it were so simple in places other than Houston. My experience has been quite the opposite: you can't tell anything definite from the ad. Some lower-priced ads for "therapeutic" massage have led to experiences as fulfilling and erotic as any escort encounter I've had. In contrast, some high-priced ads with very suggestive pictures led to encounters that were non-erotic, non-sensual, and barely adequate as therapeutic.

 

Trying to discuss things ahead of time rarely has helped in these cases. Those who are more erotic than advertised often don't want to talk about it on the phone or at the beginning of a session; the others are suggesting they deliver a lot precisely in order to attract clients, so are unlikely to be truthful.

 

My general rule of thumb is to stick to the lower-priced guys who seem to know what they're doing massage-wise at least, and to trust my instincts after an initial phone conversation. Contrary to a lot of the discussion here, I've found many guys who provide a top-notch massage and are also into letting the session develop into something frankly erotic as things progress.

[josephga]

terms mean different things too different people too. allot of clients think sensual automatically means release. to some masseurs sensual can mean light touch or working the gluts. i even use legs and gluts as a selling point by marketing myself as extra attention to the legs and gluts.. massage m4m and masseur finder both have definitions of therapeutic vrs sensual vrs erotic in the info section. I tend to agree with their definition..