Pizza Boys

[Guest Rich.]

I know by posting this, I'm setting myself up as a sitting duck for ridicule.

 

As I've mentioned elsewhere on the Board, Friday next week, I have the opportunity (thanks to a Mate with a Zone 1 spare bedroom) to 'enjoy' the Pizza Boy experience. I have a lot of preconceptions, but possibly because it's a totally new concept in 'escorting' (for me!), I'm finding the idea actually exciting. And, if I'm brutally honest, I expect the reality to be a complete let-down.

 

I'm not sure if this escorting 'phenomena' is unique to London, but in case it is, I'll outline what I believe to be the scenario.

 

A group of medical students have got together and are offering themselves up for quickies. They require the Client to be in Zone 1 (Central London), referred by an existing Client, and charge forty-quid ($65) for a 'helping hand'.

 

I've just received my user name and password and checked out the site. It's completely blank apart from four pictures a page (in total there's 11 guys) and an off-line, on-line icon. My understanding is that if I click on an on-line picture, a video Skype call will be placed, and I get the chance to video chat with the guy. (Oh, shit, supposing two-way is expected?! ).

 

After placing my order, the young man concerned will turn up at the door for a Brief Encounter (!) within the hour.

 

I'm conflicted. Looking at the pictures, these guys are young enough to be mine. I don't know if they are doing this because they want to, or because necessity dictates. They have, however, chosen to put themselves out there.

 

I've also found myself justifying going for this in so many ways. I'm taking one for the Team. (No, I'm not, I can't post a review, as this is a referral situation). It's a new experience. (Really? Broke Straight Boyz?). etc. etc.

 

I'd really appreciate your thoughts.

 

Richard

[gcursor]

OH!

 

Well NOW I realize what you were talking about from an earlier posting. Thanks for explaining it and I'm hoping you talk about how it went.

 

I applaud the creativity of the people that are doing this.

Gc

 

I know by posting this, I'm setting myself up as a sitting duck for ridicule.

 

As I've mentioned elsewhere on the Board, Friday next week, I have the opportunity (thanks to a Mate with a Zone 1 spare bedroom) to 'enjoy' the Pizza Boy experience. I have a lot of preconceptions, but possibly because it's a totally new concept in 'escorting' (for me!), I'm finding the idea actually exciting. And, if I'm brutally honest, I expect the reality to be a complete let-down.

 

I'm not sure if this escorting 'phenomena' is unique to London, but in case it is, I'll outline what I believe to be the scenario.

 

A group of medical students have got together and are offering themselves up for quickies. They require the Client to be in Zone 1 (Central London), referred by an existing Client, and charge forty-quid ($65) for a 'helping hand'.

 

I've just received my user name and password and checked out the site. It's completely blank apart from four pictures a page (in total there's 11 guys) and an off-line, on-line icon. My understanding is that if I click on an on-line picture, a video Skype call will be placed, and I get the chance to video chat with the guy. (Oh, shit, supposing two-way is expected?! ).

 

After placing my order, the young man concerned will turn up at the door for a Brief Encounter (!) within the hour.

 

I'm conflicted. Looking at the pictures, these guys are young enough to be mine. I don't know if they are doing this because they want to, or because necessity dictates. They have, however, chosen to put themselves out there.

 

I've also found myself justifying going for this in so many ways. I'm taking one for the Team. (No, I'm not, I can't post a review, as this is a referral situation). It's a new experience. (Really? Broke Straight Boyz?). etc. etc.

 

I'd really appreciate your thoughts.

 

Richard

[Guest Rich.]

I appreciate the response, Gcursor. BUT... if you were me, and had the opportunity, what would you do? I definitely find the concept titillating but part of me says supporting this is unacceptable. I'm honestly conflicted.

 

Richard

[gcursor]

Never fear

 

I'm sorry Rich but I can't dispense "if you were me" advice..I don't do that for anybody actually.

 

Never fear..I'm sure there's one or two people on the forum who will give you some type of advice about this by the end of the day.

Gcursor

 

I appreciate the response, Gcursor. BUT... if you were me, and had the opportunity, what would you do? I definitely find the concept titillating but part of me says supporting this is unacceptable. I'm honestly conflicted.

 

Richard

[Guest Rich.]

Gcursor, sincere apologies, I shouldn't have replied publicly but PM'd you. :o

 

I appreciate your position on 'if I were you' (gotta adore Stevie Nicks, huh?) but I seriously would appreciate your opinion, for-or-against, in public or private. PM me? Please!

 

Richard

[Guest Spanker01]

Hi Richard,

 

Interesting concept and certainly cheap. Would I do it? Perhaps, depending on whether or not the young man in question would offer the service(s) I was looking for. If not, why spend the money. You can always not place the order. Sounds like gay for pay, but having a hot scene is always possible.

 

Spanker

[seeker630]

I appreciate the response, Gcursor. BUT... if you were me, and had the opportunity, what would you do? I definitely find the concept titillating but part of me says supporting this is unacceptable. I'm honestly conflicted.

 

Richard

 

Richard, can you elaborate on why you think 'supporting this is unacceptable'?

 

If you have the sense that they are doing this out of dire financial necessity & a lack of other options, then I can understand. But if it's just the (probably) 'gay for pay' aspect...well, forum members are divided on this topic.

 

How do you see this as different from hiring a regular escort (many of whom are just doing it for the money)? (One thing that's not clear to me is the level of interaction - is it just the 'customer' who will be paying attention to the 'deliveryboy'?)

 

I don't think there's any 'right' or 'wrong' here - just a question of what you yourself are comfortable with.

[Guest Rich.]

... depending on whether or not the young man in question would offer the service(s) I was looking for... Spanker

 

Spanker, I can't think of these guys as Escorts. In my head, they're offering access, on very limited terms, to their bodies. Not a true Escort 'experience', however I'm happy to accept that I could be totally wrong... Given your 'handle', I've no problem asking if you're interests could be concluded with, a Pizza Boy, of 'choice'!

 

PM me, if you'd like me to check that out

 

Richard

[+ purplekow]

They are offering a service. They are getting paid for it. Their financial reasons for doing it are their own. If you find it intriguing, do it. If not don't. I never ask the grocery clerk if he likes his job or he is just doing because this is the best job he could get. He too is selling his time and services. Should I forego the quart of milk because the clerk is forced to work at a job he doesn't like? Should I accept insulant behavior from him because he is working for minimum wage and has million dollar taste?

No, I ask for the milk, I expect a polite interaction, I leave happy and he stays behind to live in whichever hell he has created for himself.

[robberbaron4u]

Hmmm. . .the B&G Boy "retooled" for the marketplace?

[Guest Rich.]

If you have the sense that they are doing this out of dire financial necessity & a lack of other options, then I can understand.

 

You've nailed it, Seeker630. Thank you for posting. If that lazy fucker Munroe chooses to share my bed for dosh, I have no hang-ups. NONE. If I'm in Bangkok and a 14-year-old does the same, because the money he makes ensures his parents can plant next season, yep... I'm definitely unwilling to be complicit. I guess I'm trying to get across to the Board that I'm 'unsure' about this encounter. Which is why I genuinely value the Board's opinions, for-and-against.

 

Richard

[seeker630]

You've nailed it, Seeker630. Thank you for posting. If that lazy fucker Munroe chooses to share my bed for dosh, I have no hang-ups. NONE. If I'm in Bangkok and a 14-year-old does the same, because the money he makes ensures his parents can plant next season, yep... I'm definitely unwilling to be complicit. I guess I'm trying to get across to the Board that I'm 'unsure' about this encounter. Which is why I genuinely value the Board's opinions, for-and-against.

 

Richard

 

I suspect the guys you are considering choose this because it's easier & more lucrative than alternatives, but we don't know. Perhaps the pre-meeting conversation might reveal something. It's also possible that they have a more relaxed attitude toward sex with men than people of our generation - assuming they are straight.

 

I have no problem with 'gay for pay' IF the guy is okay with it AND he delivers as promised. But when he's obviously doing something he finds distasteful only because he has to, then it's a turn-off for me (in addition to ethical considerations). And I also require a certain amount of interaction / reciprocity - I'd never pay just to play with or service someone who was passive during the encounter. But, that's just my own perferences.

[gcursor]

People do desperate things in desperate times. It depends on how desperate you happen to be and what choices are available to you. You currently have the luxury of choosing the choices that you make which is not something everybody can do. Maybe they have no family and are doing this to make ends meet or maybe it's something else.

 

If you want to take the high ground then what I would do is if you were feeling hyper-sensitive to the plight of these people then I would :

a. give the money to a charity that you know the money would get to them OR

b. invite the guy over and give him the money and then let him go without doing anything. if nothing else, the look on his face should be more than enough thanks.

 

As I said, i can't advise you on what to do or what not to do but those are some alternative ways you could look at the situation. Some people will say that this is screwing up the business model but at times there are more important things ..you have the chance to make an impact on one person....

good luck,

Gcursor

[Guest thedolphinsofaugust]

I have no idea what you're talking about but you just gave me a great idea.

 

There should be an escorting agency called Pizza Boys: We Deliver that has some really hot, muscled pizza boys that come to your door (out-calls, I guess, but there could be in-calls too) and along with the pizza, you get the pizza boy (:

 

Has anyone ever had a really hot pizza boy come to your door?!

[gcursor]

*sigh*

 

*sigh* those things only happen in the movies.

Gc

 

I have no idea what you're talking about but you just gave me a great idea.

 

There should be an escorting agency called Pizza Boys: We Deliver that has some really hot, muscled pizza boys that come to your door (out-calls, I guess, but there could be in-calls too) and along with the pizza, you get the pizza boy (:

 

Has anyone ever had a really hot pizza boy come to your door?!

[Rhinestone Cowboy]

Wait a minute...first of all, why is everyone assuming that these guys are desperate for money are are somehow being "forced" into this against their will? If one were that desperate for cash, I couldn't think of a WORSE way to get it than having to go through this very limited client-referral-only kind of set up. They would do much better, financially, by just going to a hustler bar and picking up johns for quickies there. I suspect that the guys who are doing this actually get off on it and enjoy it, and it's not at all a doom-and-gloom scenario. Second, if you were referred by a client then you know someone who has already done this...why not ask your "sponsor" what his experience was like? Third, if you are going to be able to video-chat with the actual human being who is going to show up at your door, why not try to suss out the situation during that conversation before you've even committed to anything? And during that conversation, you can figure out the extent of his services and then you won't be setting yourself up for disappointment. I think it all sounds like it could be a lot of fun...

 

Most importantly, will they actually deliver a pizza in addition to helping you get off?

[+ glutes]

If that lazy fucker Munroe chooses to share my bed for dosh, I have no hang-ups. NONE.

 

Richard

 

rich.boiNOTbn, trashing the competition again. OUCH>

[cany10011]

No, but a really HOT UPS guy, with the face and body of a corbin fisher model showed up once with a delivery and I became speechless at the sight of such a hunk standing at my door.

 

 

 

I have no idea what you're talking about but you just gave me a great idea.

 

There should be an escorting agency called Pizza Boys: We Deliver that has some really hot, muscled pizza boys that come to your door (out-calls, I guess, but there could be in-calls too) and along with the pizza, you get the pizza boy (:

 

Has anyone ever had a really hot pizza boy come to your door?!

[robberbaron4u]

In my experience, there was a flower delivery boy at Dallas, Texas, who made "special" deliveries with his orders on a gay for pay basis. B&G, that is, "blow and go" was his modus operandi. And, by his representation, he had, at one time, taken employment as a pizza delivery boy in a small town in Louisiana in the knowledge that he would have access to children "home alone". And, yes, he readily admitted he was "sick".

[+ nycman]

Has anyone ever had a really hot pizza boy come to your door?!

 

I once had a very hunky Italian boyfriend, who quickly picked up on my love of

working class Italian men. On our second or third date, he came to my door dressed

in a Pizza Delivery Boy uniform with a huge pizza. Needless to say, he was rewarded

handsomely for his effort. And we got to have pizza afterwards...it was the perfect "date".

[fedssocr1]

add me to the list of people who don't get what the big deal is. How is this any different than any other escort website, agency, or even freelancer?

[rvwnsd]

Did you pay a registration fee for this service? If so, my concern would be 1) whether there are any "pizza boys" and 2) would they not show up and pocket your fee. If you paid nothing to register and do not have to pay in advance of the enpcunter, then I do not understand your concerns.

[Toulouse]

It is an interesting business concept, but I don't see why one would try this instead of hiring one of the many well-reviewed and reputable providers in London. Unless, it's to get an inexpensive hand-job, which really doesn't appeal to me. I agree with Rich that this experience would mostly likely be a disappointment.

[Gar1eth]

I have no idea what you're talking about but you just gave me a great idea.

 

There should be an escorting agency called Pizza Boys: We Deliver that has some really hot, muscled pizza boys that come to your door (out-calls, I guess, but there could be in-calls too) and along with the pizza, you get the pizza boy (:

 

Has anyone ever had a really hot pizza boy come to your door?!

 

I have a very vague memory that this idea of an escort agency with hunky guys delivering pizza was suggested a long, long time ago. Anyone else with a similar recollection?

 

Gman

[+ purplekow]

There was a movie in which i believe it was Patrick Dempsey played a Pizza Delivery Boy who put out for the ladies if they ordered Double Anchovies. He had several clients, including Kirstie Allie, but basically befriended the needful women and helped them with their troubled marriages. One of the was married to a bodybuilder who was shirtless a good deal of the time he was on the screen.