What do you do when the money at home stops coming in?

[Mocha]

Hey guys!

 

Lately things seem to have slowed down a lot. Like, I now have my regulars and all and I'm not falling off the edge or anything like that...but I'm just finding I am not getting many new clients right now in my home city. But when I travel I remain quite occupied.

 

This has left me feeling bored most days while I'm at home and can't wait to travel and be busy again. It's like all I can think about is traveling. I keep thinking of getting a 2nd job but I'm not sure I'll be able to travel monthly and be gone for a week or 2 at a time working 'for the man'.

 

Of course I have an outside life beyond this as well, but that's mostly just weekends. I've been doing different things to try to get clients at home to book me but I don't think I've had a new client from my escort ad at home now since like May. I have some massage ads up that are doing okay but you know that's generally smaller amounts of money here and there.

 

But I know the moment I say, "last day in town forever, I'm moving" all of a sudden the whole city wants to book me. It's like wow, you've been looking at me all these months and never booked me? And I don't want to use that tactic unless I'm sure to be relocating. How long does it take for the new cycle of clients to appear LOL.

[Poolboy21409]

I am not an escort so maybe I should not be replying to this thread, and I do no know who you are or where you live, ...but maybe the crappy economic times are just hitting you or your geographic area. I use to hire a lot more but with disposable income down due to being "bought out" so to speak, I have to watch the pennies. And I have not seen rates from guys going down at all in these times. Just a thought.

[Mocha]

I certainly appreciate you reply, it helps to know WHY guys aren't hiring and if someone like yourself can respond all the better. Well I've seen gas prices drop by about 10 cents in the past month so hopefully it should encourage guys to hire LOL

 

Sometimes I wonder if I have to move every 6 months in order to keep a busy schedule LOL.

[rvwnsd]

Perhaps your locale does not have the population and/or the travel trade to support a lot of new business. I do not know where you live, but I would guess that an escort living someplace like Orlando, Atlanta, or Chicago would have a greater chance of attracting clients than would one living in Memphis, Des Moines, or Little Rock.

 

Just a thought.

[imrthr]

 

I certainly appreciate you reply, it helps to know WHY guys aren't hiring and if someone like yourself can respond all the better. Well I've seen gas prices drop by about 10 cents in the past month so hopefully it should encourage guys to hire LOL

 

 

I could be wrong but I don't think he is talking about the price of gas going down. He is talking about escorts not facing the fact that the economy is bad yet the escorts still want the same amount of money they got when the economy was good. If escorts reduced their rates, they might get more business.

[uwsman2]

I agree with imrthr. I'm hiring less frequently, and it's partly due to economics. (OK, it may also be due to the fact that I'm a bit older. That doesn't mean I wanna have sex less frequently, but sometimes even though I have a sudden opening in a busy schedule when 20 years ago I would have definitely tried to hire somebody to take advantage of it, now I'll think about all the hassles of making contact and scheduling and cleaning up, etc., and may let the impulse pass, even though I've got the dough and the free time... and may go to the movies instead. Perhaps that's age speaking.) But back to the more general, I think it's no surprise that with unemployment up, real income down for all but the top tiny percent of the population, living costs constantly increasing, etc., there will be a squeeze on discretionary income to spend on escorts.

[Decatur Guy]

I could be wrong but I don't think he is talking about the price of gas going down. He is talking about escorts not facing the fact that the economy is bad yet the escorts still want the same amount of money they got when the economy was good. If escorts reduced their rates, they might get more business.

 

I'd definitely hire more. There are a few Atlanta escorts I'd like to try who charge $300 an hour. Now why would I hire them when I've written great reviews of three hot guys who charge $150, $160 and $180 an hour, respectively? At $200 or even $225 an hour, I'd be tempted, but $300 takes me out of the arena.

[josephga]

maybe it's just the time of year. I did double in massage sales in march and april compared to may and june. People are on vacation kids out of school people spending more time outside. in the past my summer months normally sucked while pulling in double and triple amounts in the fall and winter.

[Electra 225]

I think that it is definitely the economy. Even if an individual is not directly impacted by what is going on in the economy and job world, one does at least think about how things are more than a bit tenuous right now--and this condition will probably last for quite a while--maybe another year or so. Part of it is that people are, justifiably, worried about their jobs and income and part is psychological--it is an impact when you read in the papers and see in the media all of the bad things going on in the economy.

 

I, for one, am more careful with my discretionary income and have, unfortunately, cut back on my hiring--or at least have become more value oriented. There are some great escorts in the $150.00 range (you have to look for them) or escorts that negotiate fees for multiple hour appointments that provide excellent value. In my market, at the present time, I am willing to go up to $200.00 per hour for entertainment (or multiple hours for a discounted per hour rate), but anything over that, I usually take a pass--unless it is someone that is either extra-ordinarily reviewed or someone whom I have met previously (and then I give it great thought).

 

I think that in many markets, the new reality and the new "sweet spot" in pricing is between $150.00 and $200.00. This does not denegrate the escort's time, talent, capabilties, or experience, but it does reflect the new reality of what is going on in today's economy.

 

My two-cents worth.

[Guest Rich.]

now I'll think about all the hassles of making contact and scheduling and cleaning up, etc.,

 

Explain Uwsman2. SVP.

 

Richard

[gtx1]

I'd definitely hire more. There are a few Atlanta escorts I'd like to try who charge $300 an hour. Now why would I hire them when I've written great reviews of three hot guys who charge $150, $160 and $180 an hour, respectively? At $200 or even $225 an hour, I'd be tempted, but $300 takes me out of the arena.

 

As an economist, this is called pricing elasticity. How much does the demand increase as the price drops. Luxury services are very price elastic - meaning price changes have a big impact on the demand at that price.

 

I think the pricing sweet spot is about 150 per hour. Some of the well reviewed guys in SF charge 200 for the first hour and 100 for subsequent hours. That makes a 2 hour appt work out to 150 per hour and really encourages longer bookings. In one case I know, an evening appointment of 5 hours drops to 500. I think that is a very attractive proposition.

 

I also think 1000 for an overnight is just beyond doing very often. I know one excellent escort that offers an overnight rate of $700 - that is hard to pass up.

 

After all what's the time worth after it has passed with no client - ZERO!

 

GTX

[jackcali]

I'd definitely hire more. There are a few Atlanta escorts I'd like to try who charge $300 an hour. Now why would I hire them when I've written great reviews of three hot guys who charge $150, $160 and $180 an hour, respectively? At $200 or even $225 an hour, I'd be tempted, but $300 takes me out of the arena.

 

I agree completely. Many escorts in New York charge 250 or 300 or even more per hour, without a discount for a second hour, and that's just too rich for my blood these days. My income is between half and two-thirds of what it was four or five years ago, and I've had to make a number of adjustments, including in my hiring. I now see a couple of non-pros who charge 150 and 200, the latter for closer to two hours than one, and the experiences are just as much fun as any escort I've paid 250 or 300 or even 400 an hour for. I'd happily see a pro for 300 or 350 for two hours, but those are hard to find here.

[cany10011]

Escorts charge what the market will bear. If one sees a downturn in bookings, perhaps it might be time to consider a temporary summer "price improvement" or something. In NYC, where there may be bigger spenders (i'm not one of them), the market may still justify the high rates. I do alright and live very well but have never really considered anyone above 250-it's just more than I can justify for an hour (really, it's only like 20 minutes after socializing) of pleasure.

 

 

 

I agree completely. Many escorts in New York charge 250 or 300 or even more per hour, without a discount for a second hour, and that's just too rich for my blood these days. My income is between half and two-thirds of what it was four or five years ago, and I've had to make a number of adjustments, including in my hiring. I now see a couple of non-pros who charge 150 and 200, the latter for closer to two hours than one, and the experiences are just as much fun as any escort I've paid 250 or 300 or even 400 an hour for. I'd happily see a pro for 300 or 350 for two hours, but those are hard to find here.

[MiamiLooker]

I now see a couple of non-pros who charge 150 and 200, the latter for closer to two hours than one, and the experiences are just as much fun as any escort I've paid 250 or 300 or even 400 an hour for. I'd happily see a pro for 300 or 350 for two hours, but those are hard to find here.

 

How do you differentiate between a pro and a nonpro? I pay a LOT LESS than I did 10-15 years ago. Back then, I hired primarily from Hot Spots magazine and the Advocate classifieds. I paid what the ad asked for. The internet opens up many more ways to find and make the connection. I'd guess my average hourly fee paid in the last few years is $80-$100. I haven't seen any difference in the quality of my experiences; actually, the least satisfying sessions have been with those that consider themselves professionals.

[jackcali]

How do you differentiate between a pro and a nonpro? I pay a LOT LESS than I did 10-15 years ago. Back then, I hired primarily from Hot Spots magazine and the Advocate classifieds. I paid what the ad asked for. The internet opens up many more ways to find and make the connection. I'd guess my average hourly fee paid in the last few years is $80-$100. I haven't seen any difference in the quality of my experiences; actually, the least satisfying sessions have been with those that consider themselves professionals.

 

Well, the distinction in my mind is how much they escort, whether they're doing it to make a living or just to supplement their income and whether they advertise. Of the two regulars I mentioned, one has a 9-to-5 day job and the other is a grad student with a pretty full school schedule, and I think that I'm either the only guy they see or one of two or at most three regulars. Now, I admit I could be fooled about it, but having gotten to know them pretty well (I've been seeing the grad student for close to two years now), I feel pretty confident that they're not devoting a lot of time to escorting. I'm not making a value judgment on those who do escort 'professionally' -- I would happily hire professionals at the same prices.

[orbital sander]

Why hasn't Tristan Baldwin chimed in on this thread??

 

Oh perhaps he is back in the 2009 threads catching up;);)

[MiamiLooker]

Well, the distinction in my mind is how much they escort, whether they're doing it to make a living or just to supplement their income and whether they advertise.

 

It's interesting that you didn't mention any difference in service...

[jackcali]

It's interesting that you didn't mention any difference in service...

 

I don't think there is any difference in service. Since most of my sessions are short (usually one to two hours, never more than three or four), sessions with pros and non-pros are pretty much the same. There's some talk, there's some action, then there's some more talk. I don't know that I'd want to spend a weekend with one of my young regulars (trying to keep up with them would probably kill me, lol), and it seems that some of the favorites escorts on this site (unlike my guys) are sophisticated enough to keep the conversation going for that long. Since I'm not hiring for weekends, though, that's not a skill that's important to me. The guys I've become regulars with have all been pretty smart and inquisitive, and the conversation with them is enjoyable, even over the chasm between our ages.

[MiamiLooker]

I don't think there is any difference in service. Since most of my sessions are short (usually one to two hours, never more than three or four), sessions with pros and non-pros are pretty much the same. There's some talk, there's some action, then there's some more talk. I don't know that I'd want to spend a weekend with one of my young regulars (trying to keep up with them would probably kill me, lol), and it seems that some of the favorites escorts on this site (unlike my guys) are sophisticated enough to keep the conversation going for that long. Since I'm not hiring for weekends, though, that's not a skill that's important to me. The guys I've become regulars with have all been pretty smart and inquisitive, and the conversation with them is enjoyable, even over the chasm between our ages.

 

That's a refreshing perspective on this forum.

[rvwnsd]

Why hasn't Tristan Baldwin chimed in on this thread??

 

Oh perhaps he is back in the 2009 threads catching up;);)

 

Now that his name has been mentioned, he will.