Escort hiring slump. Have you had one?

[Rick Munroe]

I'm intrigued by the fact that you Skype them, and for c.$60, they come to the door, shuck the shorts, and let you touch them up for half-an-hour. That'll be a first (for me!).

 

OMG...my mother just told me she's started Skyping. Is that what it's all about?? She's a horny old broad.

[Guest Rich.]

Munroe, I just Skyped your Mother's midwife. She confirmed you weren't born. You were hatched.

 

Richard

[buckguy]

I don't hire as often as I once did and I've gone through periods of hooking-up on Manhunt. My experience over time is that there are inexplicable ups and downs, whether you're paying or not. The quality of available guys varies everywhere, and even normally horrible places like Atlanta can have decent locals pop-up. By the same token, well reviewed guys can deliver a "meh" evening and it seems to be more than chemistry.

 

A few things I've learned: I don't hire at the very beginning or end of a visitor's trip--you either get the disorganization that comes from travel or the fatigue that comes with seeing a lot of clients in a short time. I don't hire young guys--I'm not into twinks, but occasionally one draws my interest and it rarely works--they tend not have things together. I'm guessing that guys who get into the business in their late 20s or afterward (and stay in it for awhile), have a much better sense of what they're doing and what a client needs, partly because of life experience. One of the other things I've noticed is that escorting seems to be a lonely business and esp on long appointments, this has been especially apparent. I once had a somewhat aloof "mild yo wild" bodybuilder who wanted cuddle time. On several occasions, seemingly confident guys want career counseling, etc. I'm not complaining, just pointing out that the fantasy that we expect guys to provide occurs in a context of their lives and sometimes that context may intrude and create less than sparkling experiences.

 

I wish I could predict how long the ups and downs last. My only advice is to accept that this happens and that things do get better (for awhile) and that your own experience will help you have a few less bad experiences.

 

I'm as guilty as anyone about not posting negative reviews, but when I've done it the response has sometimes been absent. The escort comment (one time) was obviously insipid. And the fanboys just have to be ignored. When the commentary is rhapsodic you know that things have gotten a little beyond what the fantasy should be.

[Steven_Draker]

Purplekow, although we haven't met and I don't know you personally I feel for you, because your message is coming from a place of sorrow.

[Guest Spanker01]

In a way I am very fortunate in that I have a regular guy to play with. Having said that without him I would really be having a slump. Why? there just is no one around. So location counts.I remember a few years back when location, except for rural areas, didn't count for all that much. I also think that we are a much more conservative country then we were back in the 60's-80's, and there are fewer young guys starting out as a result. And then , of course, there is AIDS. Just some random thoughts for whatever they are worth.

[Phil_musc]

I go in cycles on this. But I'm also becoming more wary of certain types of guys and ads that I read (and I've become more selective based on the reviews that I've read here (the debacle with Damien notwithstanding - he DID have 2 good reviews). But Bart, your post made me grin and realize how old I am - you list about coffee now coming instead of 3 lb tins as being sold for 32 oz, not the older 36. But I seem to remember back in the dark ages of my youth that a pound was actually 16 ounces, not twelve., and as such a 3 lb tin of coffee would weigh 48 oz. not the 36 you mention. I must have missed the memo when that weight was changed. A small point to divert us from the serious topic at hand. I apologize and promise to shut up now.

[raulgmanzo]

Perhaps you need to try some radically different foreplay, and pre-encounter activities. This could work even with out the escort, that is you simply doing things the day of and perhaps even the night before very differently.

 

But if you can find an escort who is into something different that would be better. It might work well if you were to trust them to set up something unusual to lead up to a hot fuck. This is almost the perfect season and you are in a great location for an unexpected and interesting activity.

 

Because it isn't just chemistry but also context that makes a great time.

 

I have been hiring for some about 6 or 7 years and I have had many enjoyable encounters with only a tiny number of bad experiences, 2 I think. This was true until recently, going back to September of last year. Since then, I have had difficulty getting escorts to respond, difficulty in getting to set a time, difficulty with escorts unapologetically missing appointments with little little or no explanation, difficulty with unsatisfactory sessions, usually overnights, usually with well reviewed escorts. I went so far as to switch to a by the hour preference for hiring to cut down on the disappointment. I would say in this period I have had one mostly successful overnight appointment and the rest have been so flawed as to be unacceptable. Please note, i have like most of the guys and have found them sexy and attractive but everything else has been a disaster.

I do not think it is my level of expectation. I do not think i have become jaded, because I go into these experiences with generally a good feeling that this will be fun.

This has happened with escorts new to me, escorts with whom i have had several encounters, traveling escorts, local escorts, in call, out call, in my town, out of my town. I just returned from an overnight with an escort with whom i had a great encounter in the past, in fact the only great encounter of this 9 month period and i feel like i would have gotten more warmth if I had burned the payment for heat.

So, if there are some seasoned clients out there, have you guys gone through a slump like this?

As an addendum to all the amateur Freud's out there, I am not any more depressed, anxious, angry, jaded, sad, bitter, self-loathing, insecure or generally miserable than i usually am. What I am is a frustrated, fiftysomething, horny and looking to get laid and left with a "that was a hot fuck" smile on my face.

In fact, if there is anyone in the Jersey area that can do just that, mail me a private message.

[MichiganMan]

One thing I know for sure is the quality of escorts has declined DRAMATICALLY over the last few years. I used to hire for an overnight at least once a month, you know, back when escorts actually ANSWERED there emails. Now I'm lucky to get one response out of five requests....it's just not worth the hassle anymore.....Last time I tried to set up an encounter I felt like I had to jump through hoops....instead I donated the thousand dollars to a charity...felt good actually!

[Guest Rich.]

But Bart, your post made me grin and realize how old I am - you list about coffee now coming instead of 3 lb tins as being sold for 32 oz, not the older 36. But I seem to remember back in the dark ages of my youth that a pound was actually 16 ounces, not twelve., and as such a 3 lb tin of coffee would weigh 48 oz. not the 36 you mention. I must have missed the memo when that weight was changed. A small point to divert us from the serious topic at hand. I apologize and promise to shut up now.

 

I now know that I'm officially hideously old. This post makes sense.

 

Richard

[Phil_musc]

Thanks for reading, Rich. At least somebody got what I was writing. And you're probably not officially hideously old either, I'll bet. I know I'm not.

[Racketjock]

I don't know that I have a full 2 cents to thrown in here, but I can relate to PK and Rich's comments. I have had business travel a couple times to different locations in the country thinking I might hire someone, made a few attempts with poor or unprofessional responses. My issue is that I feel very lucky to have had several encounters with a couple great guys, AndrewD and KristianLA, and find myself questioning is the risk worth it to hire somone that won't match the expectation of the great times I have with them? Is it worth it? Will they show? So, for me, it feels like a bit of a slump, and I don't want to waste the resources of money and time for an experience I have a preconceived idea I won't like as much and my time is better spent in plotting and planning see those that rock my world. Its in this particular sense, i understand Okie's comment about how David does it for him regardless of the other things that come his way.

[imrthr]

 

A lot of things in Life just run their course! Hooking up with "Working Guys" for a lot is just a course that eventually runs out for different reasons.

 

There are many EX CLIENTS who are alive and well with Memories and Bank Accounts still in tact NO Sadness there!

 

 

Said another way: The fire goes out on this type of relationship. There does not necessarily have to be a disappointment attached to the fact that we tire of things eventually.

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[Steven_Draker]

... And the fanboys just have to be ignored. When the commentary is rhapsodic you know that things have gotten a little beyond what the fantasy should be.

 

I hear you.

[Bart]

Philmusc you are of course 100% correct. There was a time when 3lb tin (not Plastic for most except I think Hills Bros) was 48, now down to a 2 lbs but still advertised as if it were 3 lbs. Sort of like those cock pictures that show themselves originally compared to a 16oz bottle of Coke, to 12 oz bottle and now those little mini's but still claim to be in inches. Maybe we should ask for the weight of the meat rather than the size.

 

Again Thanks I feel foolish since I claim math as a strength in educational life, not a proud moment.

[Phil_musc]

That's it exactly, Bart. We are all the victims of reduced expectations and the "less is more" mentality, a legacy from the Carter administration no doubt. Don't beat yourself up about your slip-up. You're just another victim of the times, like all of us. I know I've wondered in the past about those shots of body parts lined up with coke bottles or cans. What's next - maybe body part shots by those little liquor bottles they give you on airplanes. . . As far as asking for the weight of the meat rather than the size, I'd be skeptical of anybody claiming to be a full pound under these circumstances - would that be the 12 oz pound or the older 16 oz pound?

[Guest Rich.]

Philmusc and Bart. I categorically refuse to engage. Why? Because I so desperately feel the need to do so. Therefore, I absolutely forbid either of you to post further on this topic. Until you have first studied this. Help each other out, learn it by rote, I promise you'll need to know it off by heart, before you dare post again. There will be a test!

 

Richard

[12is12]

It seems that total lack of response to Down-to-Business' post validates his point, i.e. - negative reviews are frowned upon.

I'm a newbie around here, but again and again I'm puzzled why clients don't post their negative encounters. Purple started this very thread because of a multitude of such encounters, yet we seldom read about them.

Why?

Isn't this site supposed to warn us away from such escorts? Today Ross was complimented for doing something about Sloan Scot; shouldn't there be more warning reviews?

[JT Brooklyn]

It's the Old Story around here..A Negative Review BY ONE REVIEWER is only one side of said story IF the "Working Guy" does not chose to Respond?

 

Of course it is in his best interests BIZ wise to Respond but if he doesn't that's his choice!

 

Mr "Shit Head" S.S. has had many Neg Comments & Reviews from many Different Reviewer's over the Years he's been Scamming.

[+ purplekow]

[quote=12is12; - negative reviews are frowned upon.

. Purple started this very thread because of a multitude of such encounters, yet we seldom read about them.

 

I have had several less than great encounters that is true. None of these encounters were of such a nature as to warn people away from these escorts. Most of the escorts involved had been hired by me with satisfactory results but not good enough to warrant the time needed to write a review. So while it is true that I did not write a bad review, I did not write good reviews of the same escorts when I could have done so. Of course a good review is not usually enough as anything less than a glowing review is interpretted by some as a bad review.

I don't think bad reviews are discouraged but many people don't want to place themselves in line for the response which seems to invariably lead to discussions of the client's bad personal hygiene, delusional demands and unfit, borderline grotesque, physiques.

[Guest Rich.]

I don't think bad reviews are discouraged but many people don't want to place themselves in line for the response which seems to invariably lead to discussions of the Escort's bad personal hygiene, delusional demands and unfit, borderline grotesque, physiques.

 

Glutes, baby, PK hired you?

 

Richard

[12is12]

Purple basically agrees with Down-to-Business main argument, that clients refrain from posting negative reviews in order to avoid an ugly row. If this is true, it amounts to indirect blackmail, and would mean there's no way to warn clients against frauds and swindlers.

 

Conscientious escorts, where are you on this?

[KMEM]

Glutes, baby, PK hired you?

 

Richard

 

I agree with your "funny" comments but you are using the wrong name. It is gloats.

 

Best regards,

KMEM

[ncc1701d]

THANK YOU PK for starting this thread. I thought it was just me and someone was sending me a message about my hiring. Ever since I stopped seeing my ex-regular, my hires have been less than stellar in many cases...being late and no apologies (by hrs, not min), agreeing to my explicit description of what I wanted and never doing any of it, a big bodybuilder 3 times my size who not only stayed limp all 2 hrs and just wanted to cuddle, a total top who couldn't fuck for more than 3 min, etc etc etc. Any many of them have numerous glorious reviews here. I always chalked it up to chemistry in some cases but have subsequently reduced my hiring a lot and to only 1 hr test drive first. I have been surprise by some (one review coming) and one guy who drove 2.5 hrs to see me and charged the least I've ever paid for an hourly and way below market, and we had a blast. So those few rare shining ones have kept me away from being majorly jaded. But thanks for giving me the opportunity to say that here..and now I feel much better.

[12is12]

NCC pardon my 'broken record', why no reviews of all those negative experiences? Why let your fellow men suffer the same disappointments and humiliations?? Why encourage such nasty behavior???

[Phil_musc]

First of all, Richard, thank you for posting that invaluable link. I have read it all and I am ready for the test - bring it on, Baby! I was particularly interested in the information about the difference in the long ton vs the regular ton as well as the difference in the hundredth weight, but actually I guess this information is of limited use on this board.

 

Thanks, 12is12. I too have wondered why people have hesitated to write a negative review when clearly it was called for. I had been hesitant to write myself, thinking that writing was a hassle. But it isn't and I did write my first (negative) review. Hopefully, it will save someone else the experience that I had. But I also really should have written some praising reviews in the past (I feel that I really owe some of my guys a review for a great time). I'll try to do better in the future (provided my finances permit)