I think brandon williams is amazing!

[Michael Wayne]

thank you seeker630 and shoreboy. People should ACTUALLY READ the post before commenting on it. I like Brandon alot and was not advising him to do anything. Read my post! It was complimenting him. Some of yall just need to ACTUALLY READ the posts first. The personal hostility here and insults are unbelievable.

[+ deej]

thank you seeker630 and shoreboy. People should ACTUALLY READ the post before commenting on it. I like Brandon alot and was not advising him to do anything. Read my post! It was complimenting him. Some of yall just need to ACTUALLY READ the posts first. The personal hostility here and insults are unbelievable.

 

It's your condescending attitude to clients that I objected to, and still do -- including in this post. You might try ACTUALLY READING ... oh, forgot, it.

 

Along the way you've had "negatives" (your word) about escorts pricing themselves above the means of some clients and a few other "negatives" (your word) although you never got much beyond the two hour price.

 

To borrow words from the immortal Judge Judy, don't pee on our leg and tell us it's raining. You're ranting and you're being pretty fucking insulting about it.

[Michael Wayne]

Deej. I do not care if you object. it in no way has any influence on my life at all. It is obvious that MANY members like my posts as they post and say so. Many of them are also hiring me and we are having AMAZING times. Your language and attitude are what I thought Daddy was telling me not to use on here. I have cleaned up my posts and am being nice to everyone which is what I thought DADDY had instucted. It appears the rules do not apply to you. Even when members insult me and lie about me (like Electra) I respond with nice, kind, words. So Deej, you have a great Memorial Day weekend, ok, and God Bless you. I forgive you. In my entire life I have NEVER been condescending to one client, ever, nor have I insulted one. How else could I have been so successful in this business for so long with so many repeat clients? You don't get there by being what you ignorantly say I am. Now ranting, yes, I plead guily on that one but I am certainly not the only ranter on this forum. I thought the purpose of the forum was to give escorts and clients a place to honestly discuss things and ask questions that you could not ask anywhere else?

[Poolboy21409]

I have no opinion one way on one hour, two hour, four hour, evening, overnight, weekend, week, cruise length, of lifetime hires.....Do you what you want...but I fail to see any maliciousness in Mikey's post at all and am confused at some of the outburst here at him and what those folks perceived he said.....unless I am really missing something.

[buckguy]

I don't find anything condescending here and if anything has dragged out or escalating the tone its been deej's intervention. If anything, BW's supporters have created an atmosphere where it would be difficult for even a thoughtful dissenting opinion from a less enamored client to get a full hearing. I'm not trying to be mean as I have met a couple of these guys and have met BW, but rather I think Mikey is being scapegoated. I've been here from the beginning although I've come here less often in recent years. I've posted a few tepid or negative reviews--one was challenged in an over the top way by the escort, a couple others by clients. The clients ultimately seem to have more investment even when the negative review is relatively mild. Brandon is entitled to charge whatever the market will bear. There are many different kinds of escorts, just as there are many kinds of men, sexually. There are very popular guys who almost exclusively do hourlies for many years. There are others who prefer and cultivate a companionship-oriented clientele. And there are variations in between. Brandon is clearly looking for the companionship client and has a core of satisfied customers. It's probably reasonable to leave it at that for him, but also open up as to whether this is feasible or even reasonable for other escorts and clients. Not everyone here has the resources for long appointments or the desire to have them.

[Michael Wayne]

thank you BUCKGUY. Your words are very kind and balanced. Again, for the record, I love my clients and wish I could spend 2 hours with all of them or do overnights with all of them. It is the clients who usually request and only book one hour of my time. happy Memorial Day to all. Mikey

[zeyfur]

Who BMW chooses to see , how many hours minimum he wishes to stipulate is his business and that of the clients who hire him . I think it is very rude of another escort to turn it into a topic of discussion on a forum . Clients who hire BMW are aware of his conditions beforehand and are adults who can make informed decisions . So they do not need another escort to point out the negatives in asking for a two hour minimum.

[zeyfur]

Equally BMW could say it is his clients who want to book two hours minimum or an overnight . But I guess he is far too refined to wash dirty linen in public . Unlike some others .

[instudiocity]

Who BMW chooses to see,

points well-pointed and my little BMW knows what to do with POINTS!

[seeker630]

Equally BMW could say it is his clients who want to book two hours minimum or an overnight . But I guess he is far too refined to wash dirty linen in public . Unlike some others .

 

What dirty linen are you referring to?

[Michael Wayne]

nothing rude at all in my thread ZEYFUR. U R wrong. It was a posititive thread aimed at saying what an amazing escort BMW is. I REALLY wish I could require a two hour minumum. You really should think before you post ZEYFUR. Read the thread again. Then read it again. There is NOTHING RUDE at all. How can you possibly insinuate that? I have carefully considered a two hour minimum and asked 20 or so of my clients about it and only one fourth of them would go for it. For me it would mean a revenue shortfall but for others it may work. To ask an honest question about the pros and cons of a business practice on an open forum is not negative. To say it is is to reveal a level of ignorance that beggars and defies all descrition.

[zeyfur]

"thanks for all the info. I wish I could spend 2 hours with every client and I admire those who do - both the escorts and the clients. However, no one has addressed the two negatives in the thread: what about the client who comes too fast and is done at 45 minutes? Does the escort waive the fee for the 2nd hour? All the talk and charm is fine but not all clients WANT to talk (let's be real here). The TYPICAL client, with alot of exceptions, comes once or twice, showers, dresses and leaves or you leave and he has a huge smile on his face OR, as I see often, starts having tremendous feelings of guilt. Once his hard on is gone his thoughts turn to his wife, boyfreiend or lover and he wants to be alone. The other concern is pricing so many clients out of the market. Alot of guys just can't afford 300 or 400 hundred or more. I suppose if an escort were completely booked up weeks ahead and had plenty of money like I talk about in my, "Playing from a position of power," thread in the ask an escort section then he can have whatever minimum and rules he can get away with. I am a BIG fan of all these escorts who can do this. One more thing: the real busy corporate guys and business owners who just can't get away for 2 hours. I guess they would just pay for two and leave early????? Alot of my clients fit this mold. Finding an hour in their schedule is tough, let alone two hours. some can't get away from the wife that long. "

 

 

 

If that thread is not negative and full of idle speculation, I would suggest we change in definition of negative in the English Dictionary. Looking at the board, I would struggle to identify any other escort who will stoop to the level that Mikey does.

 

Besides, I like the way how concrete the post above this one is. Highly intelligent discussion, I guess !

[Michael Wayne]

That is what a forum is for. It was not at all negative about him personally but it asked for an evaluation of a business practice and discussed the many positives and the obvious negatives of requiring a two hour minimum. Several members have posted in agreement with me. Are you saying that they are rude? Apparantly anyone who does not agree with you is wrong and rude. Waht a narrow world view. How sad. I have asked ZEYFUR to talk to me privately . I will no longer respond in public to this rubish.

[zeyfur]

I on the other hand, believe in putting my thoughts and feelings on a public forum- which is the point of this forum. People may or may not agree with me- that is the whole idea for this forum and I will not seek to censor their views or resort to name calling . If the administrators deem my posts to be inappropriate, then they are free to delete them. I would have no issues with that.

[instudiocity]

That is what a forum is for. It was not at all negative about him personally but it asked for an evaluation of a business practice and discussed the many positives and the obvious negatives of requiring a two hour minimum. Several members have posted in agreement with me. Are you saying that they are rude? Apparantly anyone who does not agree with you is wrong and rude. Waht a narrow world view. How sad. I have asked ZEYFUR to talk to me privately . I will no longer respond in public to this rubish.

Seriously? You have a doctorate? I mean, geez, you've not learned to proofread? I make errors all the time, but I haven't a college degree, much less a masters nor a doctorate. But I do try to edit myself and yet most of my errors are brain farts not rubish(sic).

[orbital sander]

gee...I am still searching for my position of power

[Guy Fawkes]

The Yawn Explained: It Cools Your Brain

 

"If your head is overheated, there's a good chance you'll yawn soon, according to a new study that found the primary purpose of yawning is to control brain temperature. "

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[orbital sander]

i have been yawning too much for years!!! This explains everything!

[zeyfur]

That is what a forum is for. It was not at all negative about him personally but it asked for an evaluation of a business practice and discussed the many positives and the obvious negatives of requiring a two hour minimum. Several members have posted in agreement with me. Are you saying that they are rude? Apparantly anyone who does not agree with you is wrong and rude. Waht a narrow world view. How sad. I have asked ZEYFUR to talk to me privately . I will no longer respond in public to this rubish.

 

If that was indeed the purpose of the thread , then why not state it at the very beginning ? Why start a thread saying someone is amazing and then start pointing out the negatives when people start to say they have no problem with a two hour minimum ?

 

If the intent was indeed to have a discussion , then the thread could have gone like this

 

'what do people feel about escorts having a two hour minimum ? '

 

BMW advertises a two hour minimum. I wonder what people feel about that. He is quite brave to do that in this current economic climate. While it can work for some people , the negatives can be.............

 

Get the drift ?

 

That way the agenda becomes clear right at the onset. No b...s..ting around with supposed praise when the intention is to have a discussion on the negatives.

[zeyfur]

Seriously? You have a doctorate? I mean, geez, you've not learned to proofread? I make errors all the time, but I haven't a college degree, much less a masters nor a doctorate. But I do try to edit myself and yet most of my errors are brain farts not rubish(sic).

 

Now now ! Be nice and sweet ! And play the game from a position of power !

[Guy Fawkes]

Opps... Where did the dead horse go?

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