Red Flag?

[Strafe13]

I think I may have read this on this forum quite some time ago, but I'm not sure...

 

I contacted an escort from rentboy.com who I had seen on that site for only a few months (he'll remain nameless for now). I think he's very attractive, so I sent an e-mail via the site and he responded in less than a day, which I understand is excellent. As his ad listed the dreaded "ask me" for rates, I inquired as to his in-call rates. He said they vary from 200-300 depending on what I want to get into.

 

As if the fluctuating rates shouldn't make one wary to begin with, then he wrote the following: "If you could send me your stats that would be very helpful." Really? Don't we constantly hear from the the best reviewed escorts that they will never care about your appearance, as long as you are respectful and, of course, meet basic hygiene standards? Isn't that like how if an escort asks for payment upfront that's also usually a bad sign?

 

I really want to like this guy and would like to know if I'm perhaps taking this the wrong way (which is why I've left out his name). Any thoughts or suggestions?

[whipped guy]

Lot's of guys have asked for stats... In fact I ofter volunteer the stats even when not asked for... as I feel it would give the guy a better feel for what to expect and along with those stats I also give a clear description of what I would like to achieve. And yes, the good ones don't really care, but some of the good ones also feel that they can better prepare and serve the client when coming for a knowledgeable vantage point... So it might not necessarily be the proverbial red flag... However, I am more concerned about the fluctuating rates issue that you mention... and the two combined might indicate trouble. Still, I always see how the guy communicates and that is usually where the deal is done... or undone... So at this point I probably would pursue things to the next level but do so cautiously... and if you don't feel totally comfortable simple nix it...

[Strafe13]

Lot's of guys have asked for stats... In fact I ofter volunteer the stats even when not asked for... as I feel it would give the guy a better feel for what to expect and along with those stats I also give a clear description of what I would like to achieve. And yes, the good ones don't really care, but some of the good ones also feel that they can better prepare and serve the client when coming for a knowledgeable vantage point... So it might not necessarily be the proverbial red flag... However, I am more concerned about the fluctuating rates issue that you mention... and the two combined might indicate trouble. Still, I always see how the guy communicates and that is usually where the deal is done... or undone... So at this point I probably would pursue things to the next level but do so cautiously... and if you don't feel totally comfortable simple nix it...

 

Thanks, whipped guy. I guess my own personal issues with appearance caused me to be wary when I was asked to provide my own stats. I'll follow your advice and take it from there. Still concerned about the fluctuating rates, though. Don't like the idea of "a la carte" escorting. I'll keep my fingers crossed.

[Guest Spanker01]

Whipped guy is absolutely right. I too give a prospective excorts by basic stats. In this case I would be very firm about what I expected and how much I will pay for those expectations. If he does what he agreed to do, then he's entitled to the agreed upon price. If not, then hand X dollars for his time, and send him on his way. Again be very firm about this, and don't back down.

That said, I generally don't hire when a sliding fee scale is involved. Too much potential for problems.

 

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[best hotel]

Whipped guy?....is your avatar is a pic of you?

[gcursor]

I took the plunge

 

After hearing both sides of this discussion, I decided just to write a rather lengthy description on my profile page. Although I don't believe this may be the right route for everybody, it does give me the satisfaction of knowing people can "understand" me better before we actually meet since my written communications is somewhat vague at times.

 

Also I don't really feel like I have anything "to hide" per se from prospective escorts so this allows me to be honest and up-front with people so they can better understand what they're getting into (which hopefully they will return in kind).

Gcursor

 

I think I may have read this on this forum quite some time ago, but I'm not sure...

 

I contacted an escort from rentboy.com who I had seen on that site for only a few months (he'll remain nameless for now). I think he's very attractive, so I sent an e-mail via the site and he responded in less than a day, which I understand is excellent. As his ad listed the dreaded "ask me" for rates, I inquired as to his in-call rates. He said they vary from 200-300 depending on what I want to get into.

 

As if the fluctuating rates shouldn't make one wary to begin with, then he wrote the following: "If you could send me your stats that would be very helpful." Really? Don't we constantly hear from the the best reviewed escorts that they will never care about your appearance, as long as you are respectful and, of course, meet basic hygiene standards? Isn't that like how if an escort asks for payment upfront that's also usually a bad sign?

 

I really want to like this guy and would like to know if I'm perhaps taking this the wrong way (which is why I've left out his name). Any thoughts or suggestions?

[joeyboy107]

I don't think it's right to have fluctuationg rates based on what you want to get into. It's always easier when I know what a client likes before we meet, but I would never change my rate based on it. And I never ask for stats unless they are volunteered first. Even then, it's entirely up to you.

Sorry if this sounds a bit hostile, I just think it's so disrespectful when fellow escorts are so judgmental.

[down_to_business]

I STRONGLY recommend you go with your gut on this issue. I would say from personal experience, roughly 75% of the ones that ask for stats BEFORE agreeing to meet have been duds or worse. If you think his asking is inappropriate, then move on. There are several great escorts on this site that will never even ask for your stats at all. If you are OK with him asking or want to volunteer the information-- then that is a whole different story.

 

I think an escort with limitations on age, gender, height, weight, or whatever the statistic should be upfront and post I do not see overweight clients or I do not see clients over 30, etc. etc. instead of trying to make you feel bad about yourself for the way you look or who you are. It is so ironic to me that the same escorts who find it accpetable to post pictures over 2 years old (or maybe of someone else altogether), lie about their age by 5+ years, lie about their dick size or whatever else you might find important -- take you to town for mistating your age by a year or your weight by 3 pounds or not notifyng them in advance that you have a receeding hairline or some other feature that they consider a fatal flaw.

[leigh.bess.toad]

I'm sorry, but I do have to disagree with my great friend WG, but I really don't like the idea of the escort asking for your stats. Now I always volunteer them anyway, especially one small physical limitation that I have that they need to be aware of. However, I do think it's a reasonable question to ask what you want out of the session, what your likes/dislikes are -- how can they help meet your needs. That seems perfectdly reasonable. But As someone who is, by BMI standard charts, obese (trust me, I'm not), being judged by "numbers" makes me queasy. Likewise being both follically and veritcally challenged is tough too.

 

But he and others are right. the biggest concern is the fluctuating rates. That alone would make me run for the hills. The stats quesetion merely raises the hackles on my neck.

[Toulouse]

I usually pass on hiring escorts who require you to "Ask for Rates." But that has always bee the case. One local guy whom I've hired a few times and have gotten to know fairly well has been forthcoming to me about why he doesn't list his rates upfront. He says that he charges more based on what the client expects sexually of him AND he likes the flexibility of quoting a higher rate when a client is staying at a more expensive hotel (like the Ritz) or if they live in one of the more expensive neighborhoods in town. In other words, he doesn't like being locked in to a set fee when he knows with certain clients he can command a higher fee. While I don't like or condone this practice, I thought it was interesting how this guy adjusts his fee based on what he thinks one is willing to pay.

[Sooner405]

Wow. Very interesting thread. I guess I'm showing my naiveity here, but I just assumed escorts charged every client the same rate.

[+ sf westcoaster]

Lee, if you are going to continue to use words such as "follically" and "veritcally" then I am going to have to buy a large dictionary just to understand the postings on Daddys! LOL

[whipped guy]

I'm sorry, but I do have to disagree with my great friend WG, but I really don't like the idea of the escort asking for your stats. Now I always volunteer them anyway, especially one small physical limitation that I have that they need to be aware of.

Lee... I am so glad that you consider that third ear growing on the left side of you neck simply a "small physical limitation". It really shows how you are comfortable with yourself and that is an admirable quality. Plus you are really way too modest, as that extra appendage is actually quite the asset as it does give you an extra insight into the musical world... Wagner specifically... a clear perception that allows you to appreciate the beauties that we mere two-eared individuals will never be able to appreciate fully and never adequately comprehend. All the power to you my good friend!

[Guest Spanker01]

On my previous post my grammer was terrible. So let me repeat. Generally speaking when it comes to rates, "ask me" is a deal breaker. There are, however exceptions. When that happens and the escort agrees to a session with me for a certain fee, and he fulfills his commitment then that is what he gets. When he doesn't, he gets X dollars for his time and is sent packing, and I make this clear right up front.

 

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[uwsman2]

I just totally steer clear of anybody who is not advertising a rate. This "ask me" business means bargaining looms, and I don't want to do bargaining.